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adkindo
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| manlisten wrote: | | The Kemba love is strange to me. |
I would be very hesitant giving Kemba a big long term deal. |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:30 am Post subject: |
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| manlisten wrote: | | scoobs wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | The Kemba love is strange to me. |
why does everybody hate this guy? Is he that bad? I think he would be a good fit with Lebron because of his shooting. In addition to his shooting, he also is a good ball handler and decent passer, which would help because lebron can't play 48 minutes any way. |
I don’t hate him it’s just weird how so many people love him all of a sudden. |
Well, i like him for a variety of reasons.
1. His ability to catch and shoot from the point guard position would be a good fit with Lebron. Between Walker, Kuzma and PG, who are you going to leave open?
2. He would be a good third scoring option on a good team.
3. 12,000,000 for him is a great bargain. We could actually fit him on our team, while maxing out Lebron and PG, while keeping Randle. Can't say this about CP/Lillard.
4. We won't have to gut our whole team to get him either. Can't say that about Lillard/CP, who we would have to trade everyone any way for salary matching. |
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| RG73 wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | Gotta say, really dumb idea of looking at OJ Mayo. Maybe he was brought up here without knowledge of his league suspensions for drug use.
Sorry but I think ALL athletes that get caught because of taking banned substances are the dumbest of the dumb. We need high character, high IQ players, not this dumb ass.
Duh, people! |
Well seeing as his previous suspension was for steroids, I'm guessing he got busted for steroids again. And I suspect there is a lot of steroid use in the NBA, as with other sports, that does not get detected. So yes, he was maybe dumb in that he did not use the right people who could get him the right masking agents or the right modified drugs that don't show up on the tests. But since the steroid ban itself is dumb and has nothing to do with character, I wouldn't call him dumb just for that.
Now if he was banned for meth or heroin, well, yeah that would be worrisome and I'd probably want to keep an addict away from the team (even a recovering one).
But this is all besides the point--the guy is terribly inefficient, and he tends to be a net negative on both sides of the floor. That's the reason not to sign him, not over some weird anti-scientific puritanical nonsense about certain compounds being evil. |
Is that really the argument? That seems a whole different discussion of whether or not certain drugs should or should not be allowed.
I think the point is it is incredibly stupid to get caught for banned substances in leagues that really do not care to catch you. NBA and NFL have ridiculous testing procedures that make it difficult to get caught unless you are incredibly stupid or arrogant. Mayo getting caught twice does not give me much confidence in his motivations or knucklehead factor to be on a contending team.
Then again JR Smith, McGee and Birdman have rings. |
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I actually think the opposite... if you get caught taking steroids... you are cheating... trying to get an advantage over your fellow players. Do many do this... sure... but that doesn't make it fair game. Steroids are unhealthy for you... therefore if 50% are taking them... it forces the other 50% to have to take them and put their health in jeopardy just to keep their jobs.
On the other hand... meth and heroin don't really improve your playing ability... they are just stupid in the sense that they destroy your long term health. To me taking steroids ruins the spirit of fair competition... taking meth and heroin ruins your playing ability and cheats your boss and teammates I suppose, but then so does eating big macs or staying up all night playing fortnite. Obviously the drugs do so over an accelerated timeline... but I think you get my point.
As far as the morality of the issue goes. If you voted for either Hillary or Trump... who actually have killed and starved Arab children and separated children from their mothers. You don't have the right to get too excited about some athletes taking drugs. It's a free country... so you can say what you want of course... but for me your complaints ring hollow. |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:58 am Post subject: |
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| adkindo wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | The Kemba love is strange to me. |
I would be very hesitant giving Kemba a big long term deal. |
Hesitant ain’t the word.
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| Quote: | NBA Championship updated
Warriors Even
Rockets 4/1
Celtics 4/1
76ers 15/2
Lakers 8/1
Spurs 50/1
Cavaliers 50/1
Raptors 60/1
Thunder 80/1
Jazz 80/1
Clippers 80/1
Trail Blazers 100/1
Heat 100/1
Bucks 100/1
Wizards 100/1
Pacers 100/1
Pelicans 100/1
Timberwolves 100/1
Nuggets 100/1 |
https://twitter.com/golfodds/status/1008744038147579904
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| Quote: | | Minnesota's Jamal Crawford has declined his $4.5M player option for 2018-19 season, league sources tell Yahoo. Crawford averaged 10.3 points in 20.7 minutes for T'Wolves last season. |
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1008748380699418630
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:33 am Post subject: |
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He’s probably gonna try to come here if we build a super team |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:53 am Post subject: |
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| Anyone else OK if we strike out on all superstar FAs? |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:56 am Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | Anyone else OK if we strike out on all superstar FAs? |
only if the clippers strike out as well than I will be Ok. if clippers end up getting a star player and we don't than it will be OPEN SEASON on Magic Johnson for not taking Jerry West back |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:58 am Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | Anyone else OK if we strike out on all superstar FAs? |
honestly no
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| epak wrote: | | Anyone else OK if we strike out on all superstar FAs? |
Not "OK" but not as devastated as I think some will be.
I think there is a viable slow growth option that is not as headline making or instant contending but can be entertaining and have positive long term results. |
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Joe Pesci
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George is coming. I’d bet my ring finger on it (eff my wife).
But no, it would be perfectly fine if no one came. Just a little more reticent about paying Randle top dollar, that’s all.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:04 am Post subject: |
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| Joe Pesci wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | The Kemba love is strange to me. |
I would be very hesitant giving Kemba a big long term deal. |
Hesitant ain’t the word. |
He's still 28yo, a 2x All Star and IMO a top 10 PG in the league (Id rate Curry, Dame, RW, CP3, Wall and KI ahead of Kemba) and he has 1 years left on his deal worth $12 m until he becomes a free agent.
Whats there not to like about him ?!
If Lonzo is moved this summer, we definitely should look @ acquiring Kemba, specially since we have Laker ties in the CHA FO lol. |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:06 am Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | Anyone else OK if we strike out on all superstar FAs? |
Dlo?
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Joe Pesci
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:07 am Post subject: |
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^Don’t want to pay him. Whatever number it is, it’ll probably be untradeable.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| I rate Kemba above RW and Wall maybe even Dame because he's one third the price and more efficient than the first two. |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | Anyone else OK if we strike out on all superstar FAs? |
I'm okay with it. Some people will probably say well we got rid of Dlo, Nance and JC for no reason. But on the flip side we gained Kuzma, Hart and #25 pick. I would say that's a wash. We get to keep our young core in tact which includes Julius and try to preserve cap space for 1 max in 2019.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Definitely ring chasing. |
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| Joe Pesci wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Joe Pesci wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Question for those that want the LeBron and Paul George situation to happen... Let's assume that we stretch Luol Deng... Is it feasible that if we land LeBron James for his max which is 35 million that we would be able to convince Paul George to take 25 million a year instead of 30 million a year. Which would essentially fit us within the cap such as the same way it would if they were both making 30 million. |
Depends on your definition of “feasible”. If you mean doable or remotely possible, sure, it’s feasible.
Pretty sure he’d need to take a 7 million dollar haircut though, not just five, but I could be wrong. |
Hmm we'll see if the Numbers would work.
We stretch Deng
LeBron takes 35M
Paul George takes 5M paycut off his max for 25M
$12,447,727......Randle (1) - cap hold
$7,461,960........Lonzo Ball (2)
$5,757,120........Brandon Ingram (3)
$1,689,840........Kyle Kuzma (4)
$1,655,160........Josh Hart (5)
$1,740,000........Pick #25 (6) - cap hold
$831,311...........Min Salary (7)
$831,311...........Min Salary (8)
$831,311...........Min Salary (9)
$35,350,000.......LeBron James (10)
$25,300,000.......Paul George (11)
$7,362,000.......Luol Deng(Stretched)
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That would get to 101,257,740
So that looks very doable. |
Indeed. Probably a six million dollar paycut if the cap is 101 million.
Pretty tacky to ask though. Kind of like asking a date for the puss as soon as she opens the door. She might give it to you, might even have been preparing herself to offer it to you without you asking, but if you’re impetuous, you run the risk of pissing her off and being left with dry balls. |
This is a family friendly site. Try to keep your analogies pg.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:13 am Post subject: |
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| Sentient Meat wrote: | | I rate Kemba above RW and Wall maybe even Dame because he's one third the price and more efficient than the first two. |
Another thing about Kemba is he was 41st in the NBA with a 27.3 usage rate, which may be the lowest among players that averaged 20ppg and 5apg. |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:14 am Post subject: |
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| ^ Which is ideal playing with a ball dominant point forward like James. |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:16 am Post subject: |
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| No one watches Charlotte so they don't know how good he is... might be the best PG per dollar in the league |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:18 am Post subject: |
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| scoobs wrote: | | Sentient Meat wrote: | | I rate Kemba above RW and Wall maybe even Dame because he's one third the price and more efficient than the first two. |
Another thing about Kemba is he was 41st in the NBA with a 27.3 usage rate, which may be the lowest among players that averaged 20ppg and 5apg. |
Would Jordan take Lavar for Kemba? Mitch owes us
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