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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:57 pm    Post subject:

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Jerry West: "All due respect to the Lakers, who handled everything well, but, as these things go, LeBron was not a tough free-agent signing. LeBron wanted to come to L.A. and he wanted to come to the Lakers. Period. He has a family he's thinking about. He has a home here."

First Zach Lowe, West, and now the media are saying that everyone knew that LeBron was going to the Lakers, so its not even an accomplishment. The lengths the media and the rest of the league goes out their way to discredit the Lakers is something else.


I partially agree in a sense....I think Jeanie, Magic and Pelinka were extremely important through both reputation and an improved perception of the organization.....for that they deserve a ton of credit. I do not think we get Lebron without them. That being said, I think LA was his choice, and the Lakers just had to be acceptable to him.

It's just funny because if you use the logic West used, than Jerry West's whole Lakers run can be viewed the same way, as Shaq went to LA because of all the off the court Hollywood opportunities, Kobe forced his way as a rookie to play in LA, Magic wasn't going to declare for the 1979 draft if the Bulls ended up with the number one pick instead of the Lakers, Kareem demanding to be traded to the Lakers to play in LA, etc. I just think its sour grapes by West and the media to now say its all because of Lakers exceptionalism when the league and media have been boasting for the past 5 years that being a big market doesn't matter anymore in today's social media age, and now crying foul of LeBron joining the Lakers because it's in LA.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:00 pm    Post subject:

Lowe can suck on this Lakers exceptionalism. He's such a condescending dork.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:02 pm    Post subject:

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Lowe can suck on this Lakers exceptionalism. He's such a condescending dork.


He's a Celtics homer on par with Bill Simmons. Any of his Lakers takes need to be taken with a grain of salt
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:03 pm    Post subject:

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Jerry West: "All due respect to the Lakers, who handled everything well, but, as these things go, LeBron was not a tough free-agent signing. LeBron wanted to come to L.A. and he wanted to come to the Lakers. Period. He has a family he's thinking about. He has a home here."

First Zach Lowe, West, and now the media are saying that everyone knew that LeBron was going to the Lakers, so its not even an accomplishment. The lengths the media and the rest of the league goes out their way to discredit the Lakers is something else.


I partially agree in a sense....I think Jeanie, Magic and Pelinka were extremely important through both reputation and an improved perception of the organization.....for that they deserve a ton of credit. I do not think we get Lebron without them. That being said, I think LA was his choice, and the Lakers just had to be acceptable to him.

It's just funny because if you use the logic West used, than Jerry West's whole Lakers run can be viewed the same way, as Shaq went to LA because of all the off the court Hollywood opportunities, Kobe forced his way as a rookie to play in LA, Magic wasn't going to declare for the 1979 draft if the Bulls ended up with the number one pick instead of the Lakers, Kareem demanding to be traded to the Lakers to play in LA, etc. I just think its sour grapes by West and the media to now say its all because of Lakers exceptionalism when the league and media have been boasting for the past 5 years that being a big market doesn't matter anymore in today's social media age, and now crying foul of LeBron joining the Lakers because it's in LA.


the Laker brand definitely helped Jerry, but anyone that knows about the Shaq acquisition knows that was more about the Magic's FO's failures, and Jerry West's efforts. He may not be the biggest fan of Magic...and there may be valid reasons from his perspective....but to call Jerry West a bitter old man is beyond ignorant.....everything is sunshine in that man's life.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:06 pm    Post subject:

West's remarks really reek of sour grapes. Sad.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:17 pm    Post subject:

Turns out that Stephen A was right when news broke of LeBron signing here...no player option. We have him for 4 years barring something crazy happening.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:19 pm    Post subject:

Team option? Whaaaaaatttt? When has a healthy superstar let a team have an option like that?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:21 pm    Post subject:

Dammit, Pincus just corrected himself, it's a player option. I guess Stephen A was wrong lol.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:22 pm    Post subject:

Now that makes sense.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:41 pm    Post subject:

Rondo-KCP-BI-LeBron-McGee
Lonzo-Hart-Lance-Kuzma-Zubac (Caruso-the other 2way-Svi-Bonga-Mo)

Lonzo/Rondo might be flipped but that 2nd unit might be one of the best in the league, up there with GS and Celtics
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:44 pm    Post subject:

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Rondo-KCP-BI-LeBron-McGee
Lonzo-Hart-Lance-Kuzma-Zubac (Caruso-the other 2way-Svi-Bonga-Mo)

Lonzo/Rondo might be flipped but that 2nd unit might be one of the best in the league, up there with GS and Celtics


I would start Lonzo but either way, that bench is insane once you sub Moe for Zubac.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:46 pm    Post subject:

2019 wrote:
governator wrote:
Rondo-KCP-BI-LeBron-McGee
Lonzo-Hart-Lance-Kuzma-Zubac (Caruso-the other 2way-Svi-Bonga-Mo)

Lonzo/Rondo might be flipped but that 2nd unit might be one of the best in the league, up there with GS and Celtics


I would start Lonzo but either way, that bench is insane once you sub Moe for Zubac.


Or Svi for Lance.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:52 pm    Post subject:

I've been playing 2K, and so far there hasn't been any shooting problems on the team for me. I got the starting lineup as Ball/KCP/Ingram/Bron/McGee with Rondo/Hart/Lance/Kuzma/Wagner as the 2nd unit. The crunch time lineup I have is either Rondo/Ball/Ingram/Kuzma/Bron or Ball/KCP/Ingram/Kuzma/Bron.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:59 pm    Post subject:

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I've been playing 2K, and so far there hasn't been any shooting problems on the team for me. I got the starting lineup as Ball/KCP/Ingram/Bron/McGee with Rondo/Hart/Lance/Kuzma/Wagner as the 2nd unit. The crunch time lineup I have is either Rondo/Ball/Ingram/Kuzma/Bron or Ball/KCP/Ingram/Kuzma/Bron.



I hope Magic knows
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:05 pm    Post subject:

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I've been playing 2K, and so far there hasn't been any shooting problems on the team for me. I got the starting lineup as Ball/KCP/Ingram/Bron/McGee with Rondo/Hart/Lance/Kuzma/Wagner as the 2nd unit. The crunch time lineup I have is either Rondo/Ball/Ingram/Kuzma/Bron or Ball/KCP/Ingram/Kuzma/Bron.



I hope Magic knows

Dammit he's probably just only found out about NBA Hangtime!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:06 pm    Post subject:

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The crunch time lineup I have is either Rondo/Ball/Ingram/Kuzma/Bron or Ball/KCP/Ingram/Kuzma/Bron.


I think I need some alone time with these lineups.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:08 pm    Post subject:

governator wrote:
Rondo-KCP-BI-LeBron-McGee
Lonzo-Hart-Lance-Kuzma-Zubac (Caruso-the other 2way-Svi-Bonga-Mo)

Lonzo/Rondo might be flipped but that 2nd unit might be one of the best in the league, up there with GS and Celtics


I like 'em both...!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:12 pm    Post subject:

Sure,LeBron wanted to come to L.A. He has a family he's thinking about. He has a home here
L.A. has 2 NBA teams
One is the best brand in sports,or in the circle of the best,the other is an irrelevant,historicaly loser franchise.
Period.
Nice try Jerry,your time is long gone
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:18 pm    Post subject:

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What are you guys top players in the league?


1. Lebron James

2. Kevin Durant

3. Steph Curry

4. James Harden

5. Kawhi Leonard

6. Anthony Davis

7. Giannis Antetekoumpo

8. Russell Westbrook



1. Anthony Davis
2. Lebron James
3. Kevin Durant
4. James Harden
5. Steph Curry
6. Giannis Antetekoumpo
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:19 pm    Post subject:

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Team option? Whaaaaaatttt? When has a healthy superstar let a team have an option like that?


Yea. Must be a typo?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:20 pm    Post subject:

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Team option? Whaaaaaatttt? When has a healthy superstar let a team have an option like that?


Yea. Must be a typo?


He corrected it to player option.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:22 pm    Post subject:

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Jerry West: "All due respect to the Lakers, who handled everything well, but, as these things go, LeBron was not a tough free-agent signing. LeBron wanted to come to L.A. and he wanted to come to the Lakers. Period. He has a family he's thinking about. He has a home here."

First Zach Lowe, West, and now the media are saying that everyone knew that LeBron was going to the Lakers, so its not even an accomplishment. The lengths the media and the rest of the league goes out their way to discredit the Lakers is something else.



Comedy!! Just the opportunity to be able to sign a max FA THIS season was a great accomplishment in and of itself. Just over a year ago, we had crap contracts and little to no significant draft picks. My how times have changed. Or have they?

The media narratives and hypocrisy since LeBron signed has just been nauseating. Every other fanbase thought it was laughable that Bron would consider joining the Lakers and thought that the Sixers or Rockets have much better shots at getting Bron until he signed with the Lakers. Now its that Bron joined because the Lakers are the Lakers, and that he would have even joined with Jim & Mitch at the helm even. The team is set up to sign ANOTHER max FA NEXT season as well to go along with Bron and the youth. This Lakers team can now literally win now and build for the future at the same time, which is the best of both worlds.


Before LeBron...'No one wants to come to the Lakers. In fact they cant even get meetings.'

After LeBron...'It was easy. Everyone knew he was coming for over a year.'

Let the hate flow...tastes like Grape Soda.


Actually the theme up until may was Lebrons not going there. What do they have look at their roster. Theres nothing appealing about their roster. Etc...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:22 pm    Post subject:

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Team option? Whaaaaaatttt? When has a healthy superstar let a team have an option like that?


Yea. Must be a typo?


He corrected it to player option.


Cool.
Also glad that SAS was indeed wrong .... Again.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:22 pm    Post subject:

JPaulK0n wrote:
adkindo wrote:
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Jerry West: "All due respect to the Lakers, who handled everything well, but, as these things go, LeBron was not a tough free-agent signing. LeBron wanted to come to L.A. and he wanted to come to the Lakers. Period. He has a family he's thinking about. He has a home here."

First Zach Lowe, West, and now the media are saying that everyone knew that LeBron was going to the Lakers, so its not even an accomplishment. The lengths the media and the rest of the league goes out their way to discredit the Lakers is something else.


I partially agree in a sense....I think Jeanie, Magic and Pelinka were extremely important through both reputation and an improved perception of the organization.....for that they deserve a ton of credit. I do not think we get Lebron without them. That being said, I think LA was his choice, and the Lakers just had to be acceptable to him.

It's just funny because if you use the logic West used, than Jerry West's whole Lakers run can be viewed the same way, as Shaq went to LA because of all the off the court Hollywood opportunities, Kobe forced his way as a rookie to play in LA, Magic wasn't going to declare for the 1979 draft if the Bulls ended up with the number one pick instead of the Lakers, Kareem demanding to be traded to the Lakers to play in LA, etc. I just think its sour grapes by West and the media to now say its all because of Lakers exceptionalism when the league and media have been boasting for the past 5 years that being a big market doesn't matter anymore in today's social media age, and now crying foul of LeBron joining the Lakers because it's in LA.


West had to perform a minor miracle to create the cap space to make Shaq the best offer, and the cap didn't work the same way that it does today. No comparison.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:26 pm    Post subject:

ChickenStu wrote:
2019 wrote:
governator wrote:
Rondo-KCP-BI-LeBron-McGee
Lonzo-Hart-Lance-Kuzma-Zubac (Caruso-the other 2way-Svi-Bonga-Mo)

Lonzo/Rondo might be flipped but that 2nd unit might be one of the best in the league, up there with GS and Celtics


I would start Lonzo but either way, that bench is insane once you sub Moe for Zubac.


Or Svi for Lance.


Or Lebron for Kuzma. (That would be the insanest bench of all!)
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