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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:21 pm    Post subject:

One of Kavanaugh’s accusers, an apparent left wing nut, recants and says she made it all up to get attention. Yikes. She should get massive prison time for this, IMO. Huge disservice to the true victims of assault.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/02/brett-kavanaugh-accuser-referred-fbi-doj-investigation/1863210002/
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:00 am    Post subject:

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One of Kavanaugh’s accusers, an apparent left wing nut, recants and says she made it all up to get attention. Yikes. She should get massive prison time for this, IMO. Huge disservice to the true victims of assault.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/02/brett-kavanaugh-accuser-referred-fbi-doj-investigation/1863210002/
in one case i would agree with you. anyone lying about something like this should do jail time and pay a fine.

But since your friends on the right didnt even want to really investigate the original claim to begin with. you have no moral ground to ask for such justice. you didnt want to know who Kav really was back then and what he may have done back then. you just wanted to force him down everyone's throats. so dont care now that you have caught a liar that accused him.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:20 am    Post subject:

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One of Kavanaugh’s accusers, an apparent left wing nut, recants and says she made it all up to get attention. Yikes. She should get massive prison time for this, IMO. Huge disservice to the true victims of assault.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/02/brett-kavanaugh-accuser-referred-fbi-doj-investigation/1863210002/
in one case i would agree with you. anyone lying about something like this should do jail time and pay a fine.

But since your friends on the right didnt even want to really investigate the original claim to begin with. you have no moral ground to ask for such justice. you didnt want to know who Kav really was back then and what he may have done back then. you just wanted to force him down everyone's throats. so dont care now that you have caught a liar that accused him.


Either a crime was committed or it wasn’t. If lying about a sexual assault is a crime, then the perpetrator should be punished. If we don’t agree it is a crime, then we can certainly debate that.

This isn’t about left or right, it’s about whether a crime was committed or not. The motivations of other people on either side of the aisle is conpletely irrelevant.

The fact that Blasey Ford didn’t want the original claim investigated 36 years ago does not devalue the merit of her claim.
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ringfinger wrote:
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ringfinger wrote:
One of Kavanaugh’s accusers, an apparent left wing nut, recants and says she made it all up to get attention. Yikes. She should get massive prison time for this, IMO. Huge disservice to the true victims of assault.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/02/brett-kavanaugh-accuser-referred-fbi-doj-investigation/1863210002/
in one case i would agree with you. anyone lying about something like this should do jail time and pay a fine.

But since your friends on the right didnt even want to really investigate the original claim to begin with. you have no moral ground to ask for such justice. you didnt want to know who Kav really was back then and what he may have done back then. you just wanted to force him down everyone's throats. so dont care now that you have caught a liar that accused him.


Either a crime was committed or it wasn’t. If lying about a sexual assault is a crime, then the perpetrator should be punished. If we don’t agree it is a crime, then we can certainly debate that.

This isn’t about left or right, it’s about whether a crime was committed or not. The motivations of other people on either side of the aisle is conpletely irrelevant.

The fact that Blasey Ford didn’t want the original claim investigated 36 years ago does not devalue the merit of her claim.

sorry you can't play that card. your side played the "we dont want to know, we dont care" card earlier. so the same rules applies to this lady even if she is a bold face lie which is sounds like she is. See thats what happens when you dont thoroughly investigate like you should. This could've easily come out in a legit full fledged investigation. But no, you didnt want to know. so sorry, we can't hear you.republicans...the party of hypocrisy.
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ringfinger wrote:
splashmtn wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
One of Kavanaugh’s accusers, an apparent left wing nut, recants and says she made it all up to get attention. Yikes. She should get massive prison time for this, IMO. Huge disservice to the true victims of assault.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/02/brett-kavanaugh-accuser-referred-fbi-doj-investigation/1863210002/
in one case i would agree with you. anyone lying about something like this should do jail time and pay a fine.

But since your friends on the right didnt even want to really investigate the original claim to begin with. you have no moral ground to ask for such justice. you didnt want to know who Kav really was back then and what he may have done back then. you just wanted to force him down everyone's throats. so dont care now that you have caught a liar that accused him.


Either a crime was committed or it wasn’t. If lying about a sexual assault is a crime, then the perpetrator should be punished. If we don’t agree it is a crime, then we can certainly debate that.

This isn’t about left or right, it’s about whether a crime was committed or not. The motivations of other people on either side of the aisle is conpletely irrelevant.

The fact that Blasey Ford didn’t want the original claim investigated 36 years ago does not devalue the merit of her claim.

sorry you can't play that card. your side played the "we dont want to know, we dont care" card earlier. so the same rules applies to this lady even if she is a bold face lie which is sounds like she is. See thats what happens when you dont thoroughly investigate like you should. This could've easily come out in a legit full fledged investigation. But no, you didnt want to know. so sorry, we can't hear you.republicans...the party of hypocrisy.


The law doesn’t really care about those things. Either we agree a law was broken or we don’t. Anything else is just whining and Im Not interested in a whine fest.

The right isn’t my side. I’m not a democrat anymore although you can look all the way back in the Political Thread on election day that I voted for Hillary (albeit begrudgingly).

Sexual assault allegations, true or false, should not be a party issue.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:18 pm    Post subject:

ringfinger wrote:
splashmtn wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
splashmtn wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
One of Kavanaugh’s accusers, an apparent left wing nut, recants and says she made it all up to get attention. Yikes. She should get massive prison time for this, IMO. Huge disservice to the true victims of assault.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/02/brett-kavanaugh-accuser-referred-fbi-doj-investigation/1863210002/
in one case i would agree with you. anyone lying about something like this should do jail time and pay a fine.

But since your friends on the right didnt even want to really investigate the original claim to begin with. you have no moral ground to ask for such justice. you didnt want to know who Kav really was back then and what he may have done back then. you just wanted to force him down everyone's throats. so dont care now that you have caught a liar that accused him.


Either a crime was committed or it wasn’t. If lying about a sexual assault is a crime, then the perpetrator should be punished. If we don’t agree it is a crime, then we can certainly debate that.

This isn’t about left or right, it’s about whether a crime was committed or not. The motivations of other people on either side of the aisle is conpletely irrelevant.

The fact that Blasey Ford didn’t want the original claim investigated 36 years ago does not devalue the merit of her claim.

sorry you can't play that card. your side played the "we dont want to know, we dont care" card earlier. so the same rules applies to this lady even if she is a bold face lie which is sounds like she is. See thats what happens when you dont thoroughly investigate like you should. This could've easily come out in a legit full fledged investigation. But no, you didnt want to know. so sorry, we can't hear you.republicans...the party of hypocrisy.


The law doesn’t really care about those things. Either we agree a law was broken or we don’t. Anything else is just whining and Im Not interested in a whine fest.

The right isn’t my side. I’m not a democrat anymore although you can look all the way back in the Political Thread on election day that I voted for Hillary (albeit begrudgingly).

Sexual assault allegations, true or false, should not be a party issue.
ha haa. a Republican or faux independent not interested in a whine fest..Oh really? You have multiple millionaire talk show radio hosts that have made a living off of republicans whining/crying about nothing. And over exaggerating things for the purpose of getting a whiny reaction out of you guys.

Ring..cut it out. I'll say it again since you keep ignoring it. If you cared about the law and investigative details. you should've done a thorough investigation. Since you didnt due to your own bad/selfish choices. You get what you deserve. That is Justice Served.

lol at whining. This entire premise is a whine fest.


You are correct. Sexual Assault should not be a party issue. but since one party made it a party issue, dont cry when ITS A PARTY ISSUE.you did it to yourselves, you get what you deserve.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:22 pm    Post subject:

No $120 mil severance for Moonves

Les Moonves will NOT get his enormous, $120 MILLION severance package, because the CBS Board of Directors has determined they had a right to fire him for cause ... and specifically, sexual misconduct.

Really a no-brainer . . .
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:56 pm    Post subject:

I don't think this is the end. Les will most likely appeal the boards decision. He won't go quietly into that dark night. His net worth is reported as $700 million. Lawyers are going to feast.

I have empathy for the families of some abusers. If not the spouse the children. There's a possibility some spouses were aware of their mates abuses.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:10 pm    Post subject:

splashmtn wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
splashmtn wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
splashmtn wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
One of Kavanaugh’s accusers, an apparent left wing nut, recants and says she made it all up to get attention. Yikes. She should get massive prison time for this, IMO. Huge disservice to the true victims of assault.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/02/brett-kavanaugh-accuser-referred-fbi-doj-investigation/1863210002/
in one case i would agree with you. anyone lying about something like this should do jail time and pay a fine.

But since your friends on the right didnt even want to really investigate the original claim to begin with. you have no moral ground to ask for such justice. you didnt want to know who Kav really was back then and what he may have done back then. you just wanted to force him down everyone's throats. so dont care now that you have caught a liar that accused him.


Either a crime was committed or it wasn’t. If lying about a sexual assault is a crime, then the perpetrator should be punished. If we don’t agree it is a crime, then we can certainly debate that.

This isn’t about left or right, it’s about whether a crime was committed or not. The motivations of other people on either side of the aisle is conpletely irrelevant.

The fact that Blasey Ford didn’t want the original claim investigated 36 years ago does not devalue the merit of her claim.

sorry you can't play that card. your side played the "we dont want to know, we dont care" card earlier. so the same rules applies to this lady even if she is a bold face lie which is sounds like she is. See thats what happens when you dont thoroughly investigate like you should. This could've easily come out in a legit full fledged investigation. But no, you didnt want to know. so sorry, we can't hear you.republicans...the party of hypocrisy.


The law doesn’t really care about those things. Either we agree a law was broken or we don’t. Anything else is just whining and Im Not interested in a whine fest.

The right isn’t my side. I’m not a democrat anymore although you can look all the way back in the Political Thread on election day that I voted for Hillary (albeit begrudgingly).

Sexual assault allegations, true or false, should not be a party issue.
ha haa. a Republican or faux independent not interested in a whine fest..Oh really? You have multiple millionaire talk show radio hosts that have made a living off of republicans whining/crying about nothing. And over exaggerating things for the purpose of getting a whiny reaction out of you guys.

Ring..cut it out. I'll say it again since you keep ignoring it. If you cared about the law and investigative details. you should've done a thorough investigation. Since you didnt due to your own bad/selfish choices. You get what you deserve. That is Justice Served.

lol at whining. This entire premise is a whine fest.


You are correct. Sexual Assault should not be a party issue. but since one party made it a party issue, dont cry when ITS A PARTY ISSUE.you did it to yourselves, you get what you deserve.


Which party did Clarence Thomas and Kavanaugh belong to again? I know the GOP loves to say "good people on both sides" every time they get caught red handed but enough with the false equivalencies. One party clearly does not give a (bleep) about sexual assault. (Yes yes left do have a few of their own.. but see how quickly Franken stepped down whereas Mr. Grab-Em-By-The-P***y continues his reign).
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:31 am    Post subject:

R Kelly finally arrested for his sexual misconduct. He married Aaliyah when she was 14. Her parents had the marriage annulled. He has an affinity for underage girls. 13 14. Kelly's 52. He's been doing this for years. He should have been arrested years ago. A jury cleared him of abuse in 2008, they put a predator back on the streets. He needs help. He's a sick person.

I didn't want to start a thread on him alone. I posted here because it's in the news and it's sexual abuse horrified.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:12 pm    Post subject:

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He's been doing this for years. He should have been arrested years ago.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:13 pm    Post subject:

Thanks to Dave Chappelle, we all knew about R. Kelly's antics almost 15 years ago....
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:14 pm    Post subject:

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He needs help. He's a sick person.


He's sick alright. The only "help" he needs should come from those in the Gen Pop.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:27 pm    Post subject:

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One of Kavanaugh’s accusers, an apparent left wing nut, recants and says she made it all up to get attention. Yikes. She should get massive prison time for this, IMO. Huge disservice to the true victims of assault.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/02/brett-kavanaugh-accuser-referred-fbi-doj-investigation/1863210002/


An even bigger disservice for real victims would be for them to fear coming forward because not only might they be called a liar, they could face prison time if a good lawyer and bad law enforcement agency convinced others she lied. That's why false rape accusers don't typically face severe punishment.
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He needs help. He's a sick person.


He's sick alright. The only "help" he needs should come from those in the Gen Pop.

What he did, is doing, is appalling. That doesn't blot his sickness. He needs help. He's a pedophile. There are numerous treatment methods. Androgen Deprivation Therapy, Cognitive Behavior Therapy, Specific Serotonin ReUptake Inhibitors (SSRIs), one (no longer used) that many here would recommend, Castration.

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I don't like Kelly. I think he should be taken off the streets. In my mind pedophiles are among the lowest of the low. We're a civilized society. Kelly is a part of it. Should he get treatment, YES. Do I think he deserves it, NO. But as I said, we're a civilized society.
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He needs help. He's a sick person.


He's sick alright. The only "help" he needs should come from those in the Gen Pop.
you keep thinking like this and you will keep seeing more and more victims of these type of crimes. they are like vampires. once bitten they turn and bite someone else. wash, rinse, repeat. Unless you can some how stop the cycle before they bite someone. Can you do that with some form of therapy? Perhaps, but we need to figure that part out ASAP.

He was molested as a child and he came to be chester the molester himself. wash..rinse....


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I don't get why he's doing media interviews without a lawyer present.....
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I don't get why he's doing media interviews without a lawyer present.....
that dude aint got nothing to lose. he's basically in jail already. he's more or less broke, so he doesnt have the funds to really fight these last couple of cases like he did the one a decade or so ago.

But I asked my wife this question. this is the #metoo era. and we've seen bill cosby more or less get tried again for something that if you really want to get legal about it maybe should not have been tried that first time because his deposition should've remained sealed(regardless of guilt). Kelly sees they are going in on MJ and MJ was found innocent of all charges with zero actual proof, FBI found nothing either. victims said didnt happen back when the trials were going. and yet they are trying to dig up his grave and put him behind bars. But what if kelly gets off again? Will we have to say maybe he wasnt lying. Maybe outside of the Aaliyah incident he never messed with under age girls? or will we assume the system is broken..still.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:10 am    Post subject:

Michael Avenatti's representing the parents of one of R Kelly's live in girlfriends.

He once implied he may run for president. Glad he didn't. He strikes me as a male Gloria Allred.
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He better hope they don't house him in general population. Cook County brawl Dude at the bottom center doesn't look like he's phased at all. He didn't even get up. Looked like he was smoking a cigarette. Like to him it was a every day occurrence. Ho Hum
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R Kelly is back out of jail, after posting bail again.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:37 am    Post subject:

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R Kelly is back out of jail, after posting bail again.


Just saw that. How can a man who claimed to being ostracized and broke come up with $150 thousand dollars? I want to meet the maker of the hat he pulled it out of.

I smiled when kool Gayle King called him Robert. Gayle sat seemingly unphased by Kelly's uncontrolled rants. I would have been nervous. He looked like he might strike at any moment.
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R Kelly is back out of jail, after posting bail again.


Just saw that. How can a man who claimed to being ostracized and broke come up with $150 thousand dollars? I want to meet the maker of the hat he pulled it out of.


I'm just glad that in these days, he can't exactly pull a Roman Polanski and flee the country.
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