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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:02 pm    Post subject: *** Preseason Game 5 *** Lakers and Jazz @ Staples 10/10/17 7:30 PM PT

We're back home @ Staples for Game 5.

We won our last game....let's keep the momentum!!

Lonzo out for tonight
Bogut out for tonight

Tonight's starting lineup.....

Ennis
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Lopez


Go Lopez and Kuz!!


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:04 pm    Post subject:

Utah has been impressive, this might be a tough game, either way hopefully our guys continue to show improvement.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:12 pm    Post subject:

According to Access Sportsnet Ė Lonzo is confirmed out Tuesday night against the Utah Jazz.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:16 pm    Post subject:

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According to Access Sportsnet Ė Lonzo is confirmed out Tuesday night against the Utah Jazz.


Might be out for the rest of preseason. I'm hoping it's just being over cautious, but Lonzo still limping after more than a week is discouraging.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:16 pm    Post subject:

Putting this in the universe, BI is gonna play well.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:22 pm    Post subject:

TDRock wrote:
According to Access Sportsnet Ė Lonzo is confirmed out Tuesday night against the Utah Jazz.


I'm assuming he's out the rest of the preseason. It sucks, but he's gotta be ready for the opener.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:31 pm    Post subject:

There are fans that are mad at Luke that Kuzma hasn't played in this game yet.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:43 pm    Post subject:

Go Lakers!!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:58 pm    Post subject:

Two games left for Ingram to show us something. Can't go into regular season playing like he has been so far. I know Luke and Magic is going to stick with Ingram as a starter so he will be given a lot of opportunities to succeed here. Utah will be the toughest team yet so lets see how it goes.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:59 pm    Post subject:

Fracture wrote:
TDRock wrote:
According to Access Sportsnet Ė Lonzo is confirmed out Tuesday night against the Utah Jazz.


I'm assuming he's out the rest of the preseason. It sucks, but he's gotta be ready for the opener.


I think he'll play the last preseason game, just to get him some run before the opener. Think they're just being cautious with him rn
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:44 pm    Post subject:

TDRock wrote:
According to Access Sportsnet Ė Lonzo is confirmed out Tuesday night against the Utah Jazz.


Bogut is OUT too.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:47 pm    Post subject:

shortodom wrote:
Fracture wrote:
TDRock wrote:
According to Access Sportsnet Ė Lonzo is confirmed out Tuesday night against the Utah Jazz.


I'm assuming he's out the rest of the preseason. It sucks, but he's gotta be ready for the opener.


I think he'll play the last preseason game, just to get him some run before the opener. Think they're just being cautious with him rn


I hope your right.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:00 pm    Post subject:

Man. Lakers finally hitting their 3s this game.
If they do this in the regular season, they'll be legit.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:59 am    Post subject:

START KUZMA DAMN IT!!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:00 am    Post subject:

G o L a k e r s !
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:56 am    Post subject:

pio2u wrote:
TDRock wrote:
According to Access Sportsnet Ė Lonzo is confirmed out Tuesday night against the Utah Jazz.


Bogut is OUT too.


Bogut was born OUT

I like Bogey and heíll be good when he plays but like I said when he first got signed, he stays injured.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:33 am    Post subject:

watched Utah last night....Rubio looked really good...so did the rookies Donovan Mitchell and Tony Bradley. Also, seemed like Rodney Hood was playing with confidence again.

Going to be tough to get this win.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:10 am    Post subject:

No Lonzo. I expect Utah's defense is going to be tough for this team to handle. Well, maybe not for Kuzma, but for the 14 other players who aren't injured and could play tonight.

Can the Lakers play defense against this team? I would hope so. We'll see if players can pick up where they left off against Sacramento.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:44 am    Post subject:

According to Laker Film Room, LNJr (Nance) is getting the start again tonight.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:48 am    Post subject:

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According to Laker Film Room, LNJr (Nance) is getting the start again tonight.


If it makes us better, then I donít care.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:51 am    Post subject:

TDRock wrote:
According to Laker Film Room, LNJr (Nance) is getting the start again tonight.

good. That lineup was the best defense we've seen from our team in a long time.
Randle's brand of bully ball also worked well against the Kings 2nd unit

I was also getting a little tired of Luke's insistence on keeping units together instead of playing the guys that give you the best chance to win. This weeks "well, maybe we'll start Kuz - but I like the way he plays with the 2nd unit" quote sounded exactly like what we heard all last year

quit trying to make the 2nd string a super unit - let's start the 5 that are most effective together, which means experimenting with Kuz on the 1st string
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:58 am    Post subject:

I actually really like the paring of Nance and Lopez. It allows Lopez to be the focal point of the offense and improves our starting units defense.

Going forward, I think Luke recognizes that Randle may be best coming off the bench to improve his touches and it also significantly improves our bench units point production.

This move also maximizes Nanceís greatest strength - transition offense. This will give Ball someone he can run with and finish at the rim.

Starting with the teams best defensive setup also may prevent the team from getting into big holes early.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:05 am    Post subject:

P.K. wrote:
TDRock wrote:
According to Laker Film Room, LNJr (Nance) is getting the start again tonight.

good. That lineup was the best defense we've seen from our team in a long time.
Randle's brand of bully ball also worked well against the Kings 2nd unit

I was also getting a little tired of Luke's insistence on keeping units together instead of playing the guys that give you the best chance to win. This weeks "well, maybe we'll start Kuz - but I like the way he plays with the 2nd unit" quote sounded exactly like what we heard all last year

quit trying to make the 2nd string a super unit - let's start the 5 that are most effective together, which means experimenting with Kuz on the 1st string


Itís not necessarily about if Kuz starts, itís whether or not he finishes games. I get that everyone is trying to make Kuz a 3, but forcing him to learn two positions early on isnít ideal IMO.

A pairing of Lopez and Kuz in the front court will likely be bullied early on. Kuz is still pretty lean in the muscle department, not to mention green.

Luke is building the team around Lopez, which heís correct to do. He needs to setup the rotations to maximize offensive and defensive production around him. When Lopez steps out to the 3 point line, we need someone that can guard the 5. I ďthinkĒ at least thatís the logic behind Waltonís rotations. Nance can switch 1-5 which gives the team that flexibility.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:28 am    Post subject:

Doc JC wrote:
P.K. wrote:
TDRock wrote:
According to Laker Film Room, LNJr (Nance) is getting the start again tonight.

good. That lineup was the best defense we've seen from our team in a long time.
Randle's brand of bully ball also worked well against the Kings 2nd unit

I was also getting a little tired of Luke's insistence on keeping units together instead of playing the guys that give you the best chance to win. This weeks "well, maybe we'll start Kuz - but I like the way he plays with the 2nd unit" quote sounded exactly like what we heard all last year

quit trying to make the 2nd string a super unit - let's start the 5 that are most effective together, which means experimenting with Kuz on the 1st string


Itís not necessarily about if Kuz starts, itís whether or not he finishes games. I get that everyone is trying to make Kuz a 3, but forcing him to learn two positions early on isnít ideal IMO.

A pairing of Lopez and Kuz in the front court will likely be bullied early on. Kuz is still pretty lean in the muscle department, not to mention green.

Luke is building the team around Lopez, which heís correct to do. He needs to setup the rotations to maximize offensive and defensive production around him. When Lopez steps out to the 3 point line, we need someone that can guard the 5. I ďthinkĒ at least thatís the logic behind Waltonís rotations. Nance can switch 1-5 which gives the team that flexibility.


I agree we should look to maximize the output we can get from Lopez, but this doesn't make sense.

We don't want Lopez stepping out to the 3pt line on defense, just offense. Not to mention Nance has struggles with the size and strength of centers.

If this makes us a better team then so be it.
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Doc JC wrote:
P.K. wrote:
TDRock wrote:
According to Laker Film Room, LNJr (Nance) is getting the start again tonight.

good. That lineup was the best defense we've seen from our team in a long time.
Randle's brand of bully ball also worked well against the Kings 2nd unit

I was also getting a little tired of Luke's insistence on keeping units together instead of playing the guys that give you the best chance to win. This weeks "well, maybe we'll start Kuz - but I like the way he plays with the 2nd unit" quote sounded exactly like what we heard all last year

quit trying to make the 2nd string a super unit - let's start the 5 that are most effective together, which means experimenting with Kuz on the 1st string


Itís not necessarily about if Kuz starts, itís whether or not he finishes games. I get that everyone is trying to make Kuz a 3, but forcing him to learn two positions early on isnít ideal IMO.

A pairing of Lopez and Kuz in the front court will likely be bullied early on. Kuz is still pretty lean in the muscle department, not to mention green.

Luke is building the team around Lopez, which heís correct to do. He needs to setup the rotations to maximize offensive and defensive production around him. When Lopez steps out to the 3 point line, we need someone that can guard the 5. I ďthinkĒ at least thatís the logic behind Waltonís rotations. Nance can switch 1-5 which gives the team that flexibility.

I'm not one of those that is married to the idea of making Kuz a 3.
I think it would make the most sense to try Kuz in the 1st string lineup at both PF and SF - and the preseason was the time to experiment with that.

Let's see what the best starting 5 is by experimenting with alternative lineups, rather than what we saw last year of "keeping the 2nd unit together - at the expense of the starting 5." This appears to be what Luke is saying about Kuz this year (again).
Most coaches want to build the starting 5 from the people that make the best starting 5 - not build the 2nd unit at the expense of the starting 5.

we'll never know how Kuz would do in our starting lineup as either a starting PF or SF unless they try it. Preseason would have been the low risk time to try it

You're point about "When Lopez steps out to the 3 point line, we need someone that can guard the 5. " doesn't make much sense...
when Lopez steps out to the 3pt line, he's on offense. that doesn't affect who he's defending on the other end. So, I'm guess there's a different point here that wasn't articulated clearly and I'm missing it??
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