OFFICIAL NBA ROOKIE OF THE YEAR (2017-18)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:33 pm    Post subject:

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Simmons with 13/6/5 in the 1st half against the Pistons tonight. Given his physical maturity, I think he builds up an early lead in the ROY race even if some younger guys catch up to him as the season progresses.


finished off the trip-dub... 21 Points, 12 Rebounds and 10 Assists
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:34 pm    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
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Simmons with 13/6/5 in the 1st half against the Pistons tonight. Given his physical maturity, I think he builds up an early lead in the ROY race even if some younger guys catch up to him as the season progresses.


finished off the trip-dub... 21 Points, 12 Rebounds and 10 Assists

And the Sixers get their 1st win of the year. He's going to be special.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:56 pm    Post subject:

ATL's John Collins with an efficient 14/11 in 18 minutes off the bench. He's a guy to watch as a potential 1st team all-rookie.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:11 pm    Post subject:

Thought lack of 3P will hinder Simmos potential. But he might not even need it if he's going to be a better passing version of Giannis.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:37 pm    Post subject:

Yeah. Simmons is winning it. Lonzo's my runner up pick.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:51 pm    Post subject:

just do not like something about guys that have been with the team for a year or more, competing against guys that were in college a few months ago....they have a huge advantage as they have already made many adjustments to the NBA lifestyle.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:11 pm    Post subject:

Have their ever been co-ROY’s before? It’ll be very hard to decide between Lonzo and Simmons.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:29 pm    Post subject:

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just do not like something about guys that have been with the team for a year or more, competing against guys that were in college a few months ago....they have a huge advantage as they have already made many adjustments to the NBA lifestyle.


I don't know if that really outweighs the disadvantage of needing to take a year off from competitive basketball to heal from an injury.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:33 pm    Post subject:

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Have their ever been co-ROY’s before? It’ll be very hard to decide between Lonzo and Simmons.


It's happened three times in the 64 years the award's been given out.

Odom and Steve Francis in 2000
Kidd and Grant Hill in 1995
Dave Cowens and Geoff Petrie in 1971

The 101 voters mark 1st, 2nd, and 3rd on their ballots so even if there are two close guys the odds of a tie are pretty small.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:29 am    Post subject:

So De'Aaron Fox...

He's had a really, really good start to the year.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:46 am    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
adkindo wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Simmons with 13/6/5 in the 1st half against the Pistons tonight. Given his physical maturity, I think he builds up an early lead in the ROY race even if some younger guys catch up to him as the season progresses.


finished off the trip-dub... 21 Points, 12 Rebounds and 10 Assists

And the Sixers get their 1st win of the year. He's going to be special.


He reminds me of LeBron
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:45 am    Post subject:

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So De'Aaron Fox...

He's had a really, really good start to the year.


Doesn't count if it's against the Suns.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:51 am    Post subject:

I'm not trying to downplay Simmons' last game...It was definitely a great game by him, but there were a ton of people who downplayed Lonzo's great game, saying that it was 'just' ONE game. Meanwhile, Simmons is basically crowned ROY after one game.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:27 am    Post subject:

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I'm not trying to downplay Simmons' last game...It was definitely a great game by him, but there were a ton of people who downplayed Lonzo's great game, saying that it was 'just' ONE game. Meanwhile, Simmons is basically crowned ROY after one game.



True. But it's probably because Simmons has started his career with four straight doubles-doubles, so the breakout game was seen as just a logical part of his steady progression.

Lonzo, in contrast, has been up and down. His breakout game was against the league's worst team (and worst defense), and he followed it with a 3-13 (and 0-5 from 3) game, though his assists and rebounds were good.

That said, I think both are going to be good players, and it's a long season. Simmons has a headstart but ultimately the guy who deserves it will win it.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:38 am    Post subject:

leor_77 wrote:
I'm not trying to downplay Simmons' last game...It was definitely a great game by him, but there were a ton of people who downplayed Lonzo's great game, saying that it was 'just' ONE game. Meanwhile, Simmons is basically crowned ROY after one game.


Lonzos gonna catch heat all year long no matter what he does. It's part of being a Laker, and Lavar's son
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:42 am    Post subject:

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leor_77 wrote:
I'm not trying to downplay Simmons' last game...It was definitely a great game by him, but there were a ton of people who downplayed Lonzo's great game, saying that it was 'just' ONE game. Meanwhile, Simmons is basically crowned ROY after one game.



True. But it's probably because Simmons has started his career with four straight doubles-doubles, so the breakout game was seen as just a logical part of his steady progression.

Lonzo, in contrast, has been up and down. His breakout game was against the league's worst team (and worst defense), and he followed it with a 3-13 (and 0-5 from 3) game, though his assists and rebounds were good.

That said, I think both are going to be good players, and it's a long season. Simmons has a headstart but ultimately the guy who deserves it will win it.


Good point.

But I did see a few of Simmons' early games, and while the stats were Ok (i.e. double-doubles), what I saw didn't impress me that much. He didn't have much to his game...Basically drive and kick, a couple nice dimes, layups, maybe the occasional 8-foot jumper...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:13 am    Post subject:

It was Simmon’s award to lose, he doesn’t look like he will.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:10 pm    Post subject:

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justsomelakerfan wrote:
So De'Aaron Fox...

He's had a really, really good start to the year.


Doesn't count if it's against the Suns.


*slow clap*
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:10 pm    Post subject:

Fox has had an overall great start to the season though, seriously.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:33 pm    Post subject:

I wasn't sure about Fox but he looks like the real deal. Can get to the basket at will.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:52 pm    Post subject:

Markelle wins ugliest shot of the year.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:35 pm    Post subject:

kind of unfair

Simmons had a full year to watch film, be at the games, meet the players work with the staff.

Ball just stepped in and not with just any team.

I don't think people really know the weight of being playing for the Lakers.

I saw NOLA was selling a package of two tickets to the game comes with 4 beers and some food for like $200

You cant even get 1 preseason Laker ticket for less then $250
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:21 pm    Post subject:

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Fox has had an overall great start to the season though, seriously.

I've been impressed. I thought he would take a little longer to get going, though he has mostly been facing bench units so far.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:32 pm    Post subject:

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kind of unfair

Simmons had a full year to watch film, be at the games, meet the players work with the staff.

Ball just stepped in and not with just any team.

I don't think people really know the weight of being playing for the Lakers.

I saw NOLA was selling a package of two tickets to the game comes with 4 beers and some food for like $200

You cant even get 1 preseason Laker ticket for less then $250



Eh. Simmons had a serious injury that required him to take almost a year off from competitive basketball; for me that equals out any advantage he had from meeting the staff and looking at film.

As far as Ball's pressure, that's life -- and he and his family are certainly adding to their own pressure unnecessarily, doing a reality show and such. And it's not like being a #1 overall pick in a town like Philly is pressure free.

Anyway, I'm not grading either on a curve. How they do is how they do. It's up to them.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:46 pm    Post subject:

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noahp45 wrote:
kind of unfair

Simmons had a full year to watch film, be at the games, meet the players work with the staff.

Ball just stepped in and not with just any team.

I don't think people really know the weight of being playing for the Lakers.

I saw NOLA was selling a package of two tickets to the game comes with 4 beers and some food for like $200

You cant even get 1 preseason Laker ticket for less then $250



Eh. Simmons had a serious injury that required him to take almost a year off from competitive basketball; for me that equals out any advantage he had from meeting the staff and looking at film.

As far as Ball's pressure, that's life -- and he and his family are certainly adding to their own pressure unnecessarily, doing a reality show and such. And it's not like being a #1 overall pick in a town like Philly is pressure free.

Anyway, I'm not grading either on a curve. How they do is how they do. It's up to them.

Admittedly, he could have come back towards the end of last season, but decided to sit out the whole season so he could win ROY.
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