OFFICIAL NBA ROOKIE OF THE YEAR (2017-18)
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:29 pm    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
1. Ben Simmons - 17 PPG / 8 RPG / 8 APG - PER - 17.90 in 35.5 MPG
2. Donovan Mitchell - 18 PPG / 3 RPG / 3 APG - PER - 16.55 in 31.2 MPG
3. Jayson Tatum - 14 PPG / 6 RPG / 1 APG - PER - 16.68 in 31.4 MPG
4. Kyle Kuzma - 17 PPG / 6 RPG / 2 APG - PER - 14.92 in 31.1 MPG
5. Lauri Markkanen - 15 PPG / 8 RPG / 1 APG - PER - 15.72 in 30.2 MPG

can't figure out which three only score.....


I see many fans of other teams saying we should have taken Tatum. But his assists per game is pretty meh especially considering he plays for one of the best teams in the league. I think Tatum has better BB IQ than become a tunnel visioned guy like Wiggins in coming years, but yea that's an area he needs to improve a lot. If Lonzo can become an above average shooter which I think he will and the signs are good in the last 15 odd games, it's not close with anyone in this draft.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:19 am    Post subject:

saetarubia wrote:
adkindo wrote:
1. Ben Simmons - 17 PPG / 8 RPG / 8 APG - PER - 17.90 in 35.5 MPG
2. Donovan Mitchell - 18 PPG / 3 RPG / 3 APG - PER - 16.55 in 31.2 MPG
3. Jayson Tatum - 14 PPG / 6 RPG / 1 APG - PER - 16.68 in 31.4 MPG
4. Kyle Kuzma - 17 PPG / 6 RPG / 2 APG - PER - 14.92 in 31.1 MPG
5. Lauri Markkanen - 15 PPG / 8 RPG / 1 APG - PER - 15.72 in 30.2 MPG

can't figure out which three only score.....


I see many fans of other teams saying we should have taken Tatum. But his assists per game is pretty meh especially considering he plays for one of the best teams in the league. I think Tatum has better BB IQ than become a tunnel visioned guy like Wiggins in coming years, but yea that's an area he needs to improve a lot. If Lonzo can become an above average shooter which I think he will and the signs are good in the last 15 odd games, it's not close with anyone in this draft.

To me Tatum appears to be on a Kawhi/George trajectory offensively, and the question will be where will he eventually fall on the continuum between the two when it comes to shot efficiency. Like George and Leonard, I see Tatum becoming only an adequate distributor, so his effectiveness as a primary option will come disproportionately from his shot-making: is he still a .600 TS% guy as his usage goes up? PG13 level defense with Kawhi level offense and he'll be a top-10 guy at least.

I think Ball has the higher ceiling because his passing skills and court awareness are so outlier, but he has more work to do to mitigate his weaknesses than Tatum to approach that (higher) ceiling.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:03 am    Post subject:

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You mind if this thread is pretty expansive about rookie class discussion?


I've been hoping for a thread like this. It's a very exciting rookie class

There are enough good rookies for three normal draft classes! Heck, Furkan Korkmaz was one of my favorite players in last year's draft, Bogdan Bogdanovic is coming off of leading his team to the Euroleague Championship game, and even Zhou Qi will get some occasional burn - there are almost too many intriguing storylines to follow.


Are there any holes to Bogdan Bogdanovic's game?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:49 am    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
justsomelakerfan wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
You mind if this thread is pretty expansive about rookie class discussion?


I've been hoping for a thread like this. It's a very exciting rookie class

There are enough good rookies for three normal draft classes! Heck, Furkan Korkmaz was one of my favorite players in last year's draft, Bogdan Bogdanovic is coming off of leading his team to the Euroleague Championship game, and even Zhou Qi will get some occasional burn - there are almost too many intriguing storylines to follow.


Are there any holes to Bogdan Bogdanovic's game?


None that I have seen.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:28 pm    Post subject:

Also, Jayson Tatum has some baby mama drama?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:17 pm    Post subject:

What is happening with Fultz?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:54 pm    Post subject:

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What is happening with Fultz?

Time honored tradition for Philly lottery rookies to break something. With Fultz, it just happened to be his shot.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:35 am    Post subject:

24ways2die wrote:
What is happening with Fultz?


Just about the strangest damn thing I've ever seen in the NBA, that's all.
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