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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:22 am    Post subject:

J.C. Smith wrote:
The Lakers have drafted ridiculously well in recent years. They passed on the consensus pick in Okafor for Russell. They got Clarkson as #46 pick they bought. Picked up Nance at #27. Ball, Ingram, Randle were kind of no brainer picks for where they went. But they picked up Zubac at #32, Kuzma at #27.


I wasn't around LG back in the day, but a LOT of people (fans and specialists) wanted Vonleh at #7. Funny thing is, the only pick they missed recently (Anthony Brown) was the only late pick most people agreed upon when it was made. He was a sure deal as a 3&D role player.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:59 am    Post subject:

Why are we concerned with the Denver 2nd round pick we will get?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:11 am    Post subject:

Mitch owned the draft.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:04 pm    Post subject:

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Mitch owned the draft.


Our scouting dept owns the draft. Unless you think Kuzma was a Magic discovery.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:06 pm    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
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Mitch owned the draft.


Our scouting dept owns the draft. Unless you think Kuzma was a Magic discovery.


Magic didnít go on the road and scout players, Mitch did.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:09 pm    Post subject:

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Mitch owned the draft.


Our scouting dept owns the draft. Unless you think Kuzma was a Magic discovery.


Magic didnít go on the road and scout players, Mitch did.


Actually Magic did during the tourney.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:14 pm    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
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Mitch owned the draft.


Our scouting dept owns the draft. Unless you think Kuzma was a Magic discovery.


Magic didnít go on the road and scout players, Mitch did.


Actually Magic did during the tourney.



It's really kind of silly to try to parse out individual credit for draft picks because unless you are on the inside you don't really know who said/did what. I just give credit to the front office as a whole.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:31 pm    Post subject:

Zo proved it in SL. I'd still take Zo at #1. How do you declare him a bust after playing 1.5 preseason games
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:38 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
With LaVine, you know he's an elite athlete and near 40% shooter, but based on play, it's not much different than say, a much more efficient Clarkson.


before the big step he took in the 1/2 season he played last year....dude pretty much was comparable to Clarkson. He is definitely not someone I think we "missed" on....and who knows how he returns from a major injury.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:43 pm    Post subject:

Although we got super lucky to get 3 #2 picks in a row, not getting the #1 pick is the reason why we don't have a legit superstar talent yet. Had we got #1 in 2015 we'd have KAT, 2016 we'd have Simmons. I do believe Lonzo was the best player in this years draft it'll just take him some time to adjust to NBA physicality and speed.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:48 pm    Post subject:

socalsp3 wrote:
Zo proved it in SL. I'd still take Zo at #1. How do you declare him a bust after playing 1.5 preseason games


Yeah this. OP can't be serious. Lonzo set the NBA world on fire in summer league. With his passing and court vision, not his daddy's talking. OP I don't know what you're talking about.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:50 pm    Post subject:

Can we lock this thread? I mean the OP is bashing a guy as a bust who has played 1 and 1/2 NBA pre-season games.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:59 pm    Post subject:

socalsp3 wrote:
Zo proved it in SL. I'd still take Zo at #1. How do you declare him a bust after playing 1.5 preseason games


I 100% agree with your last sentence....but not so much your initial statement. He proved what? That he could be successful against mostly guys that are not NBA players? His or any players performance in SL proves very little if anything. I would say give him about 3 years before you can really reach an educated conclusion, but after visiting the BI thread, my gut tells me LG will give him much less time.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:02 pm    Post subject:

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Sometimes when I read lg I think to myself, this poster really should stop drunk posting


2nd that
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:13 pm    Post subject:

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socalsp3 wrote:
Zo proved it in SL. I'd still take Zo at #1. How do you declare him a bust after playing 1.5 preseason games


I 100% agree with your last sentence....but not so much your initial statement. He proved what? That he could be successful against mostly guys that are not NBA players? His or any players performance in SL proves very little if anything. I would say give him about 3 years before you can really reach an educated conclusion, but after visiting the BI thread, my gut tells me LG will give him much less time.



Fans often rush to judgment. If a rookie plays a couple of good preseason games they imagine he's a Hall of Famer; a couple of bad games they want to trade him. We see that every year.

If Kuzma goes through a predictably rookie dry spell, we'll have to hide the kitchen knives.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:13 pm    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
socalsp3 wrote:
Zo proved it in SL. I'd still take Zo at #1. How do you declare him a bust after playing 1.5 preseason games


I 100% agree with your last sentence....but not so much your initial statement. He proved what? That he could be successful against mostly guys that are not NBA players? His or any players performance in SL proves very little if anything. I would say give him about 3 years before you can really reach an educated conclusion, but after visiting the BI thread, my gut tells me LG will give him much less time.


My point is if you can't take stock in 5 games of SL how can you take stock in 1.5 preseason games.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:16 pm    Post subject:

we got Ball Kuz and Heart that is a beast Draft
A++++++ in my eyes

Heart will be the next Rick Fox
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:07 pm    Post subject:

socalsp3 wrote:
adkindo wrote:
socalsp3 wrote:
Zo proved it in SL. I'd still take Zo at #1. How do you declare him a bust after playing 1.5 preseason games


I 100% agree with your last sentence....but not so much your initial statement. He proved what? That he could be successful against mostly guys that are not NBA players? His or any players performance in SL proves very little if anything. I would say give him about 3 years before you can really reach an educated conclusion, but after visiting the BI thread, my gut tells me LG will give him much less time.


My point is if you can't take stock in 5 games of SL how can you take stock in 1.5 preseason games.


I agree....I would put money on Ball having some amazing performances this year, as well as some stinkers. Same for Kuzma......and most other talented rookies. The difference will be when a couple or few of them become more consistent in their positive performances....while more of the talented rookies have less consistency and evolve into role players. I am confident Ball will throughout this year, and next, decrease his poor performances and be one of the better players in the crop. Is he the best player, the 3rd best, etc....only in time will we learn that...
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greenfrog wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
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Mitch owned the draft.


Our scouting dept owns the draft. Unless you think Kuzma was a Magic discovery.


Magic didnít go on the road and scout players, Mitch did.


Actually Magic did during the tourney.



It's really kind of silly to try to parse out individual credit for draft picks because unless you are on the inside you don't really know who said/did what. I just give credit to the front office as a whole.


Yes, it is a team effort
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Will the FO get it right in the NBA draft.

May 17th:
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Lonzo is a special player meng if we don't get him it's going to be a curse of the number 2 pick. I mean we keep getting seconds instead of the cream of the crop. Simmons is special, we ended up getting Ingram he is all right put nothing flashy. Lonzo looks like a showtime kind of player. Markelle is kind of boring to watch. I mean I guess the second pick curse strikes again.Hope we get Lonzo..


October 2nd:
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Fultz is instant offense bro..

Yeah, i thought he was boring. But now that i see Lonzo in the flesh, OMG.

And Fultz play in the NBA he is light years better than Ball.His game is NBA ready material.

I was basing my assessment on college ball. But now that i see both in the NBA.

Has Magic F#$k3# up?


October 7th:
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Someone's in denial..

I will spell it out to you..

We have no choice but to wait another several years.

Because this team is going to be bad this year.

I hope i'm wrong of course, but we are experiencing the curse of the 2nd pick in the draft syndrome.

DLO, Lonzo, BI.

Simmons looks the real deal, Karl Anthony Towns the real deal, Fultz the real deal.

We picked the 2nd pick and again we got a guard the 3rd best guard in the draft.

Dennis Smith Jr, Fox and Fultz are better than Ball IMO. They can score do not have crooked jump shot.



October 9th:
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I'm still riding with Lonzo. He is only 19 years old. He is still adjusting to NBA level but once he does he will be someone to deal with. He is just figuring it all out.He doesn't have all the DATA because he hasn't played all the teams in the NBA. Give him one year.Once he knows what he has to do. Watch out!


October 10th:
JrR31 wrote:
We really need Lonzo back to quarter back that mess.


October 12th:
JrR31 wrote:
FFS get it right.

We passed up on Monk, Jackson and Dennis Smith Jr.

For BALL. I have a feelin the lavar persuasion had something to do with it.

Magic was sold.

Do not get me wrong Lonzo is going to be a niiiiice player in 1 or 2 years.

But there were players in the draft that would make an immediate impact.

Lakers needs to step up their game in the draft..It was a deep draft and

they should have done their homework instead of listening to LAVAR.


Agree?


U trollin bro?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Will the FO get it right in the NBA draft.

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U trollin bro?


maybe just a case of getting out of bed on the left side, and "Lonzo is the man"....roll out of the right side and "Lonzo sucks"?

best explanation I could come up with
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:56 pm    Post subject:

Ive been pretty critical of the new Lakers FO moves but this is ridiculous. Ball was pretty much consensus top 3 pick. You cant fault the Lakers on taking him.
But there would have been bloodshed if they used the #2 pick to get players who were barely even ranked in the top 10 of this draft
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:03 pm    Post subject:

Draft is the least of their worries ; both regimes
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:39 pm    Post subject:

Let me check my calendar... nope not April Fools Day.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:02 pm    Post subject:

I seem to remember a very young and talented trio of russ/KD/harden that only won 20 something games in 09 I think? They turned out pretty well in a few short years.
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