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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:01 pm    Post subject:

Looks like Luke is going to Stay....
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:03 pm    Post subject:

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Looks like Luke is going to Stay....

Whether or not he stays will be up to Magic's replacement.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:04 pm    Post subject:

Rob continues with his story telling....
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:05 pm    Post subject:

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Looks like Luke is going to Stay....

Whether or not he stays will be up to Magic's replacement.


Jeanie is the one in charge.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:05 pm    Post subject:

It's so odd. I could defend all of Magic and Rob's moves before getting LeBron..Then after that ...

Rob might as well start cleaning out his desk as well. No way he survives this.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:07 pm    Post subject:

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kobe8One wrote:
Looks like Luke is going to Stay....

Whether or not he stays will be up to Magic's replacement.


Jeanie is the one in charge.

Jeanie will let whoever she hires make the basketball decisions.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:07 pm    Post subject:

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The haters got their wish and disrespected a legend until he was out.

Feel bad for next guy who has to listen to Jeanie’s whims.

Boo hoo til your ass be chafed by your tears, (bleep)


Cry, cry, cry, fake ass


Knock it off, both of you. This is a big, sad, weird, shocking moment. Let's try to process it without taking shots at each other.

No offense, but you're no Alannis Morisette.


wat


I think he's saying you're not sassy or scorned enough to play Lilith Fair.


Or maybe it’s ironic?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:08 pm    Post subject:

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The Magic era has ended. I have to give Jeanie props.

Jeanie had nothing to do with it. Magic stepped down on his own and didn't even tell her.


You know vlf likes to rewrite history


And forsee it
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:10 pm    Post subject:

Capt.Skyhook wrote:
It's so odd. I could defend all of Magic and Rob's moves before getting LeBron..Then after that ...

Rob might as well start cleaning out his desk as well. No way he survives this.


The moves up until and including Lebron were beautiful. Clearing out the mess that Jim and Mitch has left, clearing out cap
Space while getting rid of two guys who were poor defenders (JR and DLO). I Still believe it was a great plan. They screwed up big time with roll players tho. They should have signed Noel or Cousins or both. The Stephenson and Beasley signings were really bad as well. Then trying to flip the whole team for AD when it was obvious NO wasn’t interested in dealing with us? Amateur.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:11 pm    Post subject:

Lol.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:34 pm    Post subject:

Fortysixn2 wrote:
Capt.Skyhook wrote:
It's so odd. I could defend all of Magic and Rob's moves before getting LeBron..Then after that ...

Rob might as well start cleaning out his desk as well. No way he survives this.


The moves up until and including Lebron were beautiful. Clearing out the mess that Jim and Mitch has left, clearing out cap
Space while getting rid of two guys who were poor defenders (JR and DLO). I Still believe it was a great plan. They screwed up big time with roll players tho. They should have signed Noel or Cousins or both. The Stephenson and Beasley signings were really bad as well. Then trying to flip the whole team for AD when it was obvious NO wasn’t interested in dealing with us? Amateur.


It's over. You don't have to do this anymore.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:59 pm    Post subject:

akk7 wrote:
Fortysixn2 wrote:
Capt.Skyhook wrote:
It's so odd. I could defend all of Magic and Rob's moves before getting LeBron..Then after that ...

Rob might as well start cleaning out his desk as well. No way he survives this.


The moves up until and including Lebron were beautiful. Clearing out the mess that Jim and Mitch has left, clearing out cap
Space while getting rid of two guys who were poor defenders (JR and DLO). I Still believe it was a great plan. They screwed up big time with roll players tho. They should have signed Noel or Cousins or both. The Stephenson and Beasley signings were really bad as well. Then trying to flip the whole team for AD when it was obvious NO wasn’t interested in dealing with us? Amateur.


It's over. You don't have to do this anymore.


Nope, I supported those moves and not gonna pretend like I didn’t. I sure as hell liked the direction more than Jim and mitch’s. I stand by my assessments at the time, a man has nothing if he doesn’t have his integrity lol.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:21 pm    Post subject:

Fortysixn2 wrote:
akk7 wrote:
Fortysixn2 wrote:
Capt.Skyhook wrote:
It's so odd. I could defend all of Magic and Rob's moves before getting LeBron..Then after that ...

Rob might as well start cleaning out his desk as well. No way he survives this.


The moves up until and including Lebron were beautiful. Clearing out the mess that Jim and Mitch has left, clearing out cap
Space while getting rid of two guys who were poor defenders (JR and DLO). I Still believe it was a great plan. They screwed up big time with roll players tho. They should have signed Noel or Cousins or both. The Stephenson and Beasley signings were really bad as well. Then trying to flip the whole team for AD when it was obvious NO wasn’t interested in dealing with us? Amateur.


It's over. You don't have to do this anymore.


Nope, I supported those moves and not gonna pretend like I didn’t. I sure as hell liked the direction more than Jim and mitch’s. I stand by my assessments at the time, a man has nothing if he doesn’t have his integrity lol.


That's how millions died fighting over a few yards of land during trench warfare in World War I.

Integrity is important, but knowing when to cut your losses is sometimes the wiser course.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:23 pm    Post subject:

Why was Palinka forced on Magic. If you’re choosing him as President let him pick his own GM and eventually his own coach. That part I don’t get.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:31 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
non-player zealot wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
RealSkipBayless wrote:
The haters got their wish and disrespected a legend until he was out.

Feel bad for next guy who has to listen to Jeanie’s whims.

Boo hoo til your ass be chafed by your tears, (bleep)


Cry, cry, cry, fake ass


Knock it off, both of you. This is a big, sad, weird, shocking moment. Let's try to process it without taking shots at each other.

No offense, but you're no Alannis Morisette.


wat


I think he's saying you're not sassy or scorned enough to play Lilith Fair.


Or maybe it’s ironic?


Dontcha think?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:34 pm    Post subject:

Hire one of these guys as VP of Ops or GM
Sean Marks
Mike Zarren
Larry Harris
Troy Weaver
Neil Oshey
Eli Witus
Sam Presti

Hire Jerry as a consultant

Hire a shooting coach

Hire a coach that "DEVELOPS" effing players and understands rotations, minutes, timeouts, and managing ego's

Trade LeBron for assets

Get a free agent entering their prime this year

Get AD next offseason
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:35 pm    Post subject:

How can luke stay after that article came out about Jeanie giving Magic approval to fire him? Seems like that could cause some issues or friction.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:37 pm    Post subject:

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How can luke stay after that article came out about Jeanie giving Magic approval to fire him? Seems like that could cause some issues or friction.


Unless there was another head coaching job opening up I can see him deciding to stay.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:38 pm    Post subject:

I think Magic’s ego was hurting this team more than it was helping.

He wanted to clean house as soon as he got here.
Since the season didn't go the way he expected it would, its a problem and he's throwing shade while stepping down.

He was part of the process in choosing a new GM if I recall, now its “we were paired together”.

JWest wanted to return last year, but Magic declined to add him.

He gloated for weeks about Zo before the draft, months back its leaked Magic wanted Fox, Jeanie wanted Ball ?!?!

Coaching staff wanted to retain BLo, Maginka (i believe its more Magic), didn't want a typical 5... then, we go after 10-15 games, get Tyson for rebounding and rim protection when BLo could have provided that and more.

Randle walked for nothing when he could have been retained, but Magic got LeBron and wanted to speed up our rebuild by gutting all the young kids.

Per previous reports, LeBron requested for shooters, Maginka went and got “tough minded playmakers”... then in Feb trade for Muscala & RB for “shooting”

Maybe Rob is the one “whispering and backstabbing” cause he nor Luke have a voice in decisions, and they roll with what Magic wants cause he’s PoBO.

Thank you for the effort to sign LeBron... but glad he stepped down.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:42 pm    Post subject:

JeezyXVII wrote:
I think Magic’s ego was hurting this team more than it was helping.

He wanted to clean house as soon as he got here.
Since the season didn't go the way he expected it would, its a problem and he's throwing shade while stepping down.

He was part of the process in choosing a new GM if I recall, now its “we were paired together”.

JWest wanted to return last year, but Magic declined to add him.

He gloated for weeks about Zo before the draft, months back its leaked Magic wanted Fox, Jeanie wanted Ball ?!?!

Coaching staff wanted to retain BLo, Maginka (i believe its more Magic), didn't want a typical 5... then, we go after 10-15 games, get Tyson for rebounding and rim protection when BLo could have provided that and more.

Randle walked for nothing when he could have been retained, but Magic got LeBron and wanted to speed up our rebuild by gutting all the young kids.

Per previous reports, LeBron requested for shooters, Maginka went and got “tough minded playmakers”... then in Feb trade for Muscala & RB for “shooting”

Maybe Rob is the one “whispering and backstabbing” cause he nor Luke have a voice in decisions, and they roll with what Magic wants cause he’s PoBO.

Thank you for the effort to sign LeBron... but glad he stepped down.


This is certainly a very legitimate perspective and not one that surprises me or feels incorrect.

There are always 2 sides to every story and I think Luke, the normally quiet/zen guy, has one. Rob, the guy Magic wanted for his knowledge of CBA, also has thoughts.

Only one guy has spoken and if he cared about Jeanie and the franchise the way he does, he would have NEVER done it this way.

He'd have waited til exit interviews, talked with everyone in the FO, spoke with LeBron, and made up an excuse about health or time or whatever.

The dude made a mess of this situation and good riddance. Now Jeanie needs to get the right people.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:44 pm    Post subject:

lakersken80 wrote:
LFAN4LIFE wrote:
How can luke stay after that article came out about Jeanie giving Magic approval to fire him? Seems like that could cause some issues or friction.


Unless there was another head coaching job opening up I can see him deciding to stay.

It's not really up to him lol.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:50 pm    Post subject:

I would believe the Plaschke article over a random Yahoo writer.
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Sentient Meat wrote:
Fortysixn2 wrote:
akk7 wrote:
Fortysixn2 wrote:
Capt.Skyhook wrote:
It's so odd. I could defend all of Magic and Rob's moves before getting LeBron..Then after that ...

Rob might as well start cleaning out his desk as well. No way he survives this.


The moves up until and including Lebron were beautiful. Clearing out the mess that Jim and Mitch has left, clearing out cap
Space while getting rid of two guys who were poor defenders (JR and DLO). I Still believe it was a great plan. They screwed up big time with roll players tho. They should have signed Noel or Cousins or both. The Stephenson and Beasley signings were really bad as well. Then trying to flip the whole team for AD when it was obvious NO wasn’t interested in dealing with us? Amateur.


It's over. You don't have to do this anymore.


Nope, I supported those moves and not gonna pretend like I didn’t. I sure as hell liked the direction more than Jim and mitch’s. I stand by my assessments at the time, a man has nothing if he doesn’t have his integrity lol.


That's how millions died fighting over a few yards of land during trench warfare in World War I.

Integrity is important, but knowing when to cut your losses is sometimes the wiser course.


No matter the excuse, magic will go down as one of the worst FO executives of all time.

Only idiots would sacrifice their intergrity for someone so foolish.

Jim Buss will be viewed more favorably as an executive in comparison, which says a lot about magic's failure.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:55 pm    Post subject:

JeezyXVII wrote:
I think Magic’s ego was hurting this team more than it was helping.

He wanted to clean house as soon as he got here.
Since the season didn't go the way he expected it would, its a problem and he's throwing shade while stepping down.

He was part of the process in choosing a new GM if I recall, now its “we were paired together”.

JWest wanted to return last year, but Magic declined to add him.

He gloated for weeks about Zo before the draft, months back its leaked Magic wanted Fox, Jeanie wanted Ball ?!?!

Coaching staff wanted to retain BLo, Maginka (i believe its more Magic), didn't want a typical 5... then, we go after 10-15 games, get Tyson for rebounding and rim protection when BLo could have provided that and more.

Randle walked for nothing when he could have been retained, but Magic got LeBron and wanted to speed up our rebuild by gutting all the young kids.

Per previous reports, LeBron requested for shooters, Maginka went and got “tough minded playmakers”... then in Feb trade for Muscala & RB for “shooting”

Maybe Rob is the one “whispering and backstabbing” cause he nor Luke have a voice in decisions, and they roll with what Magic wants cause he’s PoBO.

Thank you for the effort to sign LeBron... but glad he stepped down.


I think this is pretty accurate. I would also add that while he was a genius on the court, I just don't think Magic has the analytical mind for coaching and building a team. I was unhappy originally with the hiring of Magic because when he would speak as an analyst, he never really showed great insight. Then the subsequent rejection of hiring Jerry West made me lose all hope.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:52 am    Post subject:

Omar Little wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
RealSkipBayless wrote:
The haters got their wish and disrespected a legend until he was out.

Feel bad for next guy who has to listen to Jeanie’s whims.

Boo hoo til your ass be chafed by your tears, (bleep)


Cry, cry, cry, fake ass


Knock it off, both of you. This is a big, sad, weird, shocking moment. Let's try to process it without taking shots at each other.

No offense, but you're no Alannis Morisette.


wat

Agreed.
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