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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:23 pm    Post subject:

If we can sustain the character of a defensive(!) team through this year, that will be great change in culture. Things can only go up from there.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:23 pm    Post subject:

what a game... come on guys, you can't be really UPSET with everebody every loss !
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:23 pm    Post subject:

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Iím sorry for the cliche, but Ball finds ways to contribute when heís not scoring. Heís a winning basketball player, dare I say, the type of guy ANY player in the NBA would want to play with (wink, wink).

Anyone expecting Ball to score nightly will always be disappointed. He needs to be a threat, and he will, but in the meantime heíll always help you win in some form or fashion other than just scoring.

Right now, heís a role player. In the future, heíll probably be a hall of fame role player.

Like Iíve said before, I donít see him ever averaging 17 a game, and Iím perfectly cool with it.


Hall of fame is kinda farfetched....

Iíll concede that, but, to me, heíll be an elite role player/fifth option one day, maybe even average a triple double like Westbrook and Robertson.

I wouldnít have drafted him number two, but Iíve always said that heís the type of player that will definitely win rings in the league, and I still feel that way.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:23 pm    Post subject:

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Ball contributes when we're not scoring.

But if the defense knows they can play off him. Or that they can essentially play 3 on 5 when he's on the court. That's a problem.

Problem is, Lonzo did some of his best damage off ball with another playmaker in the starting lineup with him. Lakers are only utilizing half of what he's really good at and trying to force him to be a scorer or 'traditional' point guard at the same time.


It doesn't work cause that's not his game.

If the FO understood that they wouldn't have traded Russell for Lopez, as that wouldn't have fit with Lonzo best in the back court to maximize HIM.

But they obviously didn't. And the way they try to utilize him in the 'offense' it's obvious they don't.


I completely agree with this. Lonzo fits so well next to Dlo... too bad we traded him. We were trying to get rid of cap space in Mozgov and all the other bad trades. Look at Deng... where is he now ???
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:25 pm    Post subject:

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what a game... come on guys, you can't be really UPSET with everebody every loss !


Really good game, i think us as fans wants to nit pick. lol

Can't wait to see who is starting at PF next game now.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:25 pm    Post subject:

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Anyone upset with Lonzo balls performance? I'm sorta losing faith in him scoring.
He needs that 3 ball to show up
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:25 pm    Post subject:

Shocked that LG isn't out on the refs tonight, Reddit lakers is chewing up the refs and you can't blame them

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:25 pm    Post subject:

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Damn, we must be clawing our way back to relevance if LG posters are blaming refs for a loss. Been a while since I saw that.




After being down big, the team clawed back to make it competitive. This is huge progress from the last few seasons. I still would have liked to see them win.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:27 pm    Post subject:

Lonzo needs to attack these point guards. Way too much respect for Lillardís defense. If he had the same mentality on offense as he had getting in Lillardís face on defense, he would have created more. Donít give too much respect to these PGs, Lonzo.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:27 pm    Post subject:

Great effort tonight in a game we could have & should have won. We have to learn how to FINISH.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:27 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
Ball contributes when we're not scoring.

But if the defense knows they can play off him. Or that they can essentially play 3 on 5 when he's on the court. That's a problem.

Problem is, Lonzo did some of his best damage off ball with another playmaker in the starting lineup with him. Lakers are only utilizing half of what he's really good at and trying to force him to be a scorer or 'traditional' point guard at the same time.


It doesn't work cause that's not his game.

If the FO understood that they wouldn't have traded Russell for Lopez, as that wouldn't have fit with Lonzo best in the back court to maximize HIM.

But they obviously didn't. And the way they try to utilize him in the 'offense' it's obvious they don't.

Youíll probably flame me for this, but that off ball shooting and secondary playmaker for Ball role will be filled this offseason.

Whether itís LBJ or George (or both), youíll see Ball in that role soon enough.

Also, you and others will forget about Russell soon enough as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:27 pm    Post subject:

The refs were making favorable calls to the Blazers when we had momentum, after all these years they still have there agenda to screw us over.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:28 pm    Post subject:

If Lonzo is not going to shoot maybe Josh Heart should start. I'm done with the Lonzo experiment this year. Bring him off the bench.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:31 pm    Post subject:

Fans being fanatical ...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:32 pm    Post subject:

tox wrote:
bigballer8 wrote:
Anyone upset with Lonzo balls performance? I'm sorta losing faith in him scoring.
He needs that 3 ball to show up


He needs to actually look to shoot once in a while. Horribly passive game today. It's great to get the ball to guys, but you can't just float on offense the entire (bleep) game. DO SOMETHING.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:32 pm    Post subject:

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If Lonzo is not going to shoot maybe Josh Heart should start. I'm done with the Lonzo experiment this year. Bring him off the bench.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:33 pm    Post subject:

bigballer8 wrote:
MJST wrote:
Ball contributes when we're not scoring.

But if the defense knows they can play off him. Or that they can essentially play 3 on 5 when he's on the court. That's a problem.

Problem is, Lonzo did some of his best damage off ball with another playmaker in the starting lineup with him. Lakers are only utilizing half of what he's really good at and trying to force him to be a scorer or 'traditional' point guard at the same time.


It doesn't work cause that's not his game.

If the FO understood that they wouldn't have traded Russell for Lopez, as that wouldn't have fit with Lonzo best in the back court to maximize HIM.

But they obviously didn't. And the way they try to utilize him in the 'offense' it's obvious they don't.


I completely agree with this. Lonzo fits so well next to Dlo... too bad we traded him. We were trying to get rid of cap space in Mozgov and all the other bad trades. Look at Deng... where is he now ???


Yeah, I'm really upset that we don't have one of the worst defensive playing chuckers in the league next to ball. Such a mistake, man....I miss DLO so much. I loved when we lost all of those games with him then he'd hit a shot in summer league and celebrate like he'd accomplished something. The team division, the poor defense individually and as a team...man, sure wish he was back!

I like our team now, I'm a fan...hearing this DLO BS every time something doesn't go our way is super weak.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:36 pm    Post subject:

ricardoJPC wrote:
what a game... come on guys, you can't be really UPSET with everebody every loss !


Wasnít upset with the raptors loss because I pretty much expected them to lose the lead and eventually lose lol but this one stings


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:36 pm    Post subject:

all i can ask for is for a good close game where the players play hard and try to win.

the talent is there but the need for a superstar is what will push them over the top.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:37 pm    Post subject:

D-Lo and Ball together would be essentially what we get whenever JC and Ball play together right now.

Not sure what would be so amazing about that.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:39 pm    Post subject:

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Shocked that LG isn't out on the refs tonight, Reddit lakers is chewing up the refs and you can't blame them


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:40 pm    Post subject:

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D-Lo and Ball together would be essentially what we get whenever JC and Ball play together right now.

Not sure what would be so amazing about that.


DLO actually passes the ball. Tunnel Vision Clarkson on the other hand....
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:47 pm    Post subject:

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D-Lo and Ball together would be essentially what we get whenever JC and Ball play together right now.

Not sure what would be so amazing about that.
Naw son.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:49 pm    Post subject:

Kuzma is legit. Steal of the draft for sure.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:50 pm    Post subject:

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D-Lo and Ball together would be essentially what we get whenever JC and Ball play together right now.

Not sure what would be so amazing about that.


DLO actually passes the ball. Tunnel Vision Clarkson on the other hand....


They're both ball dominant score-first players. DLO passes a little more than Clarkson does, but that's not saying much.
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