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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:33 pm    Post subject:

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I don't know what you guys are seeing, but I see a rookie trying to figure things out 11 games into his career. I liked what I saw tonight from Lonzo.


I don't know. His game tonight reminded me of how my 65 OVR rated myplayers used to play when just starting out in 2K. Not very appealing to the eye but somehow ends up with 5/5/5/5.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:34 pm    Post subject:

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It's crazy Lonzo could have a worse rookie year than Ingram. Hopefully he has a similar leap, but my God does he look outmatched.


I hate his offense, but I wouldnt go that far. He did compete and yeah he is outmatched, he is a rookie, and that was Kyrie Irving. He has to fix the way he shoots the basketball. Its amazing it has gotten him this far, I mean the talent is there.

The Lakers are obviously not the better team, just goes to show how important a PG or Cousins would be for this team.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:34 pm    Post subject:

This wasn't a success, but we did show perseverance after the 1st quarter. We faded at the end, but we were down by 20+ points and pulled within 2 points.

There are some positives to pull from this game. We're close. We just need to take better care of the ball, box out, and finish. I think we get too "out of control" in an effort to push the tempo.

We all hate losing to Boston, but, they are a better team at this point.

We'll get there LGers! I have faith in the process.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:35 pm    Post subject:

Don Draper wrote:
Mamba Mentality wrote:
I don't know what you guys are seeing, but I see a rookie trying to figure things out 11 games into his career. I liked what I saw tonight from Lonzo.


I don't know. His game tonight reminded me of how my 65 OVR rated myplayers used to play when just starting out in 2K. Not very appealing to the eye but somehow ends up with 5/5/5/5.


9 pts 5 rebs 4 blks 6 assists 1 steal
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:35 pm    Post subject:

Dang, 11 games into the season and I'm so over Lonzo. Would anybody trade for him? Maybe a lower 1st? He's completely garbage. I was so excited about him but Jesus he's bad. We could have had Porzingus, Tatum, and Brown.. Imagine that!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:36 pm    Post subject:

Honest question tho, If we had Dlo, we would have made some more shots in those last 3 min to be sure, but are we even in the game with same defensive intensity that kept us in a game which was 8 on 5?
Cause it sure wasn't our offense that kept us in it.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:36 pm    Post subject:

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Clarkson negated any good offense he had with dumb turnovers and bad defense.


he had 3 of the 21 TO's


Hence why I said "and".

I like Clarkson, but his turnovers tonight came at crucial times and I don't understand how someone so quick and athletic can be so ineffective on defense. The TOs were spread out pretty evenly, but Clarkson was a big part of the second quarter implosion and then made a dumb play to seal the deal. He really is talented, if only he could increase his BBIQ.


What i dont i understand is why Luke doesnt punish him for his ballhogging and bad decisions, while benches Randle.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:36 pm    Post subject:

Garbage rotations from Luke and garbage refs. Ballgame.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:37 pm    Post subject:

RichD wrote:
Dang, 11 games into the season and I'm so over Lonzo. Would anybody trade for him? Maybe a lower 1st? He's completely garbage. I was so excited about him but Jesus he's bad. We could have had Porzingus, Tatum, and Brown.. Imagine that!


Dang, when you put it like that
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:37 pm    Post subject:

RichD wrote:
Dang, 11 games into the season and I'm so over Lonzo. Would anybody trade for him? Maybe a lower 1st? He's completely garbage. I was so excited about him but Jesus he's bad. We could have had Porzingus, Tatum, and Brown.. Imagine that!

Why would you want Brown over Ingram?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:37 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Garbage rotations from Luke and garbage refs. Ballgame.


Yep.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:38 pm    Post subject:

Mamba Mentality wrote:
I don't know what you guys are seeing, but I see a rookie trying to figure things out 11 games into his career. I liked what I saw tonight from Lonzo.


I thought tonight was one of his better efforts. Made some nice plays and read defense well, attacked more often. Shot is still a mess but we know thatís not an easy or quick fix.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:38 pm    Post subject:

Lol at all the Lonzo hater's. 11 games going against Wall,Irving.

You guys do understand no 20yo Pg has ever game into the NBA and just went HAM?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:38 pm    Post subject:

tox wrote:
RichD wrote:
Dang, 11 games into the season and I'm so over Lonzo. Would anybody trade for him? Maybe a lower 1st? He's completely garbage. I was so excited about him but Jesus he's bad. We could have had Porzingus, Tatum, and Brown.. Imagine that!

Why would you want Brown over Ingram?

He's much better.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:39 pm    Post subject:

One fourth quarter sequence had 3 consecutive turnovers sandwiched between 2 missed layups...combine that with bostons offensive boards and folks missing layups through out the 4th..,

They acted inexperienced in the 4th, which they are, and it showed

And yep Lonzo needs to make those layups
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:41 pm    Post subject:

He is a young Kidd, including the lack of offense and good defense.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:41 pm    Post subject:

Good game boston, you're a lock to win the title for sure, I'm sure you'll sweep the cavs and the warriors. Enjoy your hard fought victory at some wild club tonight, because I just know that boston nightlife is WHERE IT'S AT!!! I on the other hand will have to wallow in this sad loss, go out to a boring ol bar full of gals wayyy uglier than boston chicks, in terrible terrible 64 degree weather tonight.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:43 pm    Post subject:

JerryWest_44 wrote:
Don Draper wrote:
Mamba Mentality wrote:
I don't know what you guys are seeing, but I see a rookie trying to figure things out 11 games into his career. I liked what I saw tonight from Lonzo.


I don't know. His game tonight reminded me of how my 65 OVR rated myplayers used to play when just starting out in 2K. Not very appealing to the eye but somehow ends up with 5/5/5/5.


9 pts 5 rebs 4 blks 6 assists 1 steal


With great defense, he played Smart and Kyrie very tough.

He missed the point blank layup which hurt and obviously he has no confidence at all in his outside shot right now so he is shooting worse than he should be.

Other than his shooting, I love his game and I will take 5-6 as we could have easily won several of the games we lost.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:43 pm    Post subject:

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adkindo wrote:
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Clarkson negated any good offense he had with dumb turnovers and bad defense.


he had 3 of the 21 TO's


Hence why I said "and".

I like Clarkson, but his turnovers tonight came at crucial times and I don't understand how someone so quick and athletic can be so ineffective on defense. The TOs were spread out pretty evenly, but Clarkson was a big part of the second quarter implosion and then made a dumb play to seal the deal. He really is talented, if only he could increase his BBIQ.


just do not see it that way....he came in the score was 11-21...checked out it was 36-50. He was -4 in the first half, which was I think the best on the team....or close to it. He had a better game than 4 starters (Kuzma, Ball, Lopez and KCP).
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:43 pm    Post subject:

smoothazsilk wrote:
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The Lakers are back. LG is now complaining about the refs rather than the lack of skill.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:46 pm    Post subject:

Lonzo played fine tonight. His defense and effort level impressed me.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:46 pm    Post subject:

LakerLanny wrote:
JerryWest_44 wrote:
Don Draper wrote:
Mamba Mentality wrote:
I don't know what you guys are seeing, but I see a rookie trying to figure things out 11 games into his career. I liked what I saw tonight from Lonzo.


I don't know. His game tonight reminded me of how my 65 OVR rated myplayers used to play when just starting out in 2K. Not very appealing to the eye but somehow ends up with 5/5/5/5.


9 pts 5 rebs 4 blks 6 assists 1 steal


With great defense, he played Smart and Kyrie very tough.

He missed the point blank layup which hurt and obviously he has no confidence at all in his outside shot right now so he is shooting worse than he should be.

Other than his shooting, I love his game and I will take 5-6 as we could have easily won several of the games we lost.



This


We have been in every game we played so far except for the first game of the season
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:47 pm    Post subject:

-Lopez missed 4 wide open 3s
-KCP airballed a wide open 3
-Hart missed a wide open 3
-Kuz missed an easy layup, an easy baby hook off a missed free throw, and made a mess of a 4 on 2 fastbreak
-Brewer missed a wide open 3 and an easy layup

If half of this shots go in, we win this game, even while getting ridiculously out rebounded on the offensive glass.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:49 pm    Post subject:

I have absolutely no problem with Lonzo right now. His defensive intensity is off the hook, he is trying to make the right plays and he just flat out can't shoot. The fact that he is missing layups and wide open 3's to me is great, because he can get open shots and I'm sure in practice he makes those. For him it's a combination of nerves, lack of conditioning and the speed of the game. He will improve his shooting, every other part of his game right now is above average for any NBA PG.

The game tonight was lost by luke in that first rotation when he brought in bogut...what 2 fouls, a turnover or 2 and just standing there on defense. If that first rotation would have been randle, maybe we win that game. This loss totally is on Luke, I've never blamed him before....but he blew this.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:51 pm    Post subject:

I thought this was a good game... I can't believe the complaining or the expectation to beat Boston on the road with 2 rookies + Ingram... Boston is just a flat out better team at the moment.

On the bright side, Lonzo is actually a good/great defender and just needs to shake that mental offensive issue (he can get 15-20 shots off easy so its not like he can't create offense) ... Kuzma was off tonight, Lopez had a poor game, KCP was below average and we still hung in there. This will be a much different game when we meet next time.
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