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AFireInside619
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| RI Laker wrote: | | Purp 32 wrote: | | petergr wrote: | | Has Tragic decided if Lonzo is not a leader? Then it becomes easier to ship out Deng with Lonzo. |
Calling Magic "tragic", knowing where that nickname came from, should result in a ban. |
I agree 100% Purp 32. Exile him to the Celtic board. |
Adios peetergirl. Hope you like clam chowda, weird accents, & soft balls with Tom Brady. |
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fontana3d
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:01 am Post subject: |
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| petergr wrote: | | Has Tragic decided if Lonzo is not a leader? Then it becomes easier to ship out Deng with Lonzo. |
Has you decided that you reached pueberty yet? |
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adkindo
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:01 am Post subject: |
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| Purp 32 wrote: | | petergr wrote: | | Has Tragic decided if Lonzo is not a leader? Then it becomes easier to ship out Deng with Lonzo. |
Calling Magic "tragic", knowing where that nickname came from, should result in a ban. |
no it shouldn't...he is not above criticism...if people can take ignorant shots at players on the roster, the the President of Basketball Ops is fair game. |
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RI Laker
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:05 am Post subject: |
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WRONG! 
You want to be critical of him as an executive, knock your socks off. To call him that stupid and ridiculous nickname (given by DOUCHE BAG Celtic fans) is UNACCEPTABLE. I guess some forgot that Magic broke the Leprechaun curse, changed the Lakers organization, and changed the NBA. |
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adkindo
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:18 am Post subject: |
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| RI Laker wrote: | WRONG!
You want to be critical of him as an executive, knock your socks off. To call him that stupid and ridiculous nickname (given by DOUCHE BAG Celtic fans) is UNACCEPTABLE. I guess some forgot that Magic broke the Leprechaun curse, changed the Lakers organization, and changed the NBA. |
do not see it in the terms of use? |
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deal
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:42 am Post subject: |
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Moving back to basketball, getting a trade partner for Deng will be very very difficult. I think the stretch idea Emplay brings, sounds like a plan.
I was surprised / shocked when the previous FO signed off on the Moz/ Deng contracts but hopefully did not go over board bashing them. Same now, I've cut Magic and Rob needed space, the task is not easy.
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Joe Pesci
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:05 am Post subject: |
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| deal wrote: | Moving back to basketball, getting a trade partner for Deng will be very very difficult. I think the stretch idea Emplay brings, sounds like a plan.
I was surprised / shocked when the previous FO signed off on the Moz/ Deng contracts but hopefully did not go over board bashing them. Same now, I've cut Magic and Rob needed space, the task is not easy. |
Yep. Run it!
And if for some reason the Lakers are forbidden from doing the Pincus Tricknology Plan, they can always surrender their first round picks to jettison Deng’s 7.5 million dollar caphold. |
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ToastedMuffins
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:38 am Post subject: |
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| 55 wrote: | | Joe Pesci wrote: | | lakers4life78 wrote: | | Lakers aren't getting out from under this deal. No way, no how. Impending RFA Randle isn't enough to entice a team to take on this disaster deal, and the Lakers would still need a ton of expiring money coming back. |
Im suggesting that they can if they “need to”. The price will just be quite heavy — 3 first rounders.
To clear the extra seven mill that a stretched Deng would take up, have the ability to not renounce Randle’s caphold, and possibly wait-out Randle to the point he signs the $5.5 million qualifying offer for next year, it may just be worth the price, IMO.
Randle is an extremely unique piece to have coming off your bench. Even if he’s only playing 20 minutes a game, he has the potential to have a lot of positive impact on a winning team, and those three first rounders (probably at bottom of the first round) quite likely may never approach Randle’s level of impact. |
Correct, but not at max $$$. |
Randle isn't getting max money. He'll be lucky to get even half of that. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:57 am Post subject: |
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| RI Laker wrote: | WRONG!
You want to be critical of him as an executive, knock your socks off. To call him that stupid and ridiculous nickname (given by DOUCHE BAG Celtic fans) is UNACCEPTABLE. I guess some forgot that Magic broke the Leprechaun curse, changed the Lakers organization, and changed the NBA. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:47 am Post subject: |
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| iimarshon wrote: | | RI Laker wrote: | WRONG!
You want to be critical of him as an executive, knock your socks off. To call him that stupid and ridiculous nickname (given by DOUCHE BAG Celtic fans) is UNACCEPTABLE. I guess some forgot that Magic broke the Leprechaun curse, changed the Lakers organization, and changed the NBA. |
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I guess the Magic hate is still strong for some. smh |
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iimarshon
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If Pincus' idea can be done, they should do it right NOW.
Save the picks.
You could then trade Randle at the deadline for a late 1st round pick.
And then come Summer you could either keep Clarkson or trade him for something too.
A 3-4m cap hit for 10 years is not bad.
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lakers4life78
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:19 am Post subject: |
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| iimarshon wrote: | If Pincus' idea can be done, they should do it right NOW.
Save the picks.
You could then trade Randle at the deadline for a late 1st round pick.
And then come Summer you could either keep Clarkson or trade him for something too.
A 3-4m cap hit for 10 years is not bad. |
Would be nice, sign george and cousins
Ball-hart
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Cousins
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:24 am Post subject: |
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| deal wrote: | Moving back to basketball, getting a trade partner for Deng will be very very difficult. I think the stretch idea Emplay brings, sounds like a plan.
I was surprised / shocked when the previous FO signed off on the Moz/ Deng contracts but hopefully did not go over board bashing them. Same now, I've cut Magic and Rob needed space, the task is not easy. |
This is not easy. We should refrain from losing important asset like Jules to dump Deng. If we get those 2 marquee players though, I don’t mind attaching our draft picks for Deng takers. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:35 am Post subject: |
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| iimarshon wrote: | If Pincus' idea can be done, they should do it right NOW.
Save the picks.
You could then trade Randle at the deadline for a late 1st round pick.
And then come Summer you could either keep Clarkson or trade him for something too.
A 3-4m cap hit for 10 years is not bad. |
So what do we offer Deng to make him play along?
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:50 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | iimarshon wrote: | If Pincus' idea can be done, they should do it right NOW.
Save the picks.
You could then trade Randle at the deadline for a late 1st round pick.
And then come Summer you could either keep Clarkson or trade him for something too.
A 3-4m cap hit for 10 years is not bad. |
So what do we offer Deng to make him play along? |
The ability to earn an extra paycheck from another team this year and the next 2. |
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The Lebrons
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:55 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | iimarshon wrote: | If Pincus' idea can be done, they should do it right NOW.
Save the picks.
You could then trade Randle at the deadline for a late 1st round pick.
And then come Summer you could either keep Clarkson or trade him for something too.
A 3-4m cap hit for 10 years is not bad. |
So what do we offer Deng to make him play along? |
We'd stretch him next summer and he'd be free to go wherever he wants. As of now, he's stuck here for 2 more years after this. This guarantees he's out after this season and enables him to be a FA, rather than potentially getting traded to a team where he wouldn't play either. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | iimarshon wrote: | If Pincus' idea can be done, they should do it right NOW.
Save the picks.
You could then trade Randle at the deadline for a late 1st round pick.
And then come Summer you could either keep Clarkson or trade him for something too.
A 3-4m cap hit for 10 years is not bad. |
So what do we offer Deng to make him play along? |
and what are you whining about? trying to (still) justify that horrid signing by your boy who got fired?
mozgov is gone. once deng is gone, buss's failure will be complete.
but oh, he led us to rings while getting coffee for mitch and jerry, so he's a champion.
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Emplay's idea is radical for sure. Part of me thinks the league would be the harder sell, especially as it could be seen as a a leveraging big market financial advantages and unallowed under the auspice that it didn't meet the intent of the stretch provision (aka claim of circumvention). Emplay did some legwork on that topic so maybe it isn't the issue it would seem at first blush.
I'm in the camp of thinking Deng may be willing to give up more money in a buyout than others believe. There's obviously not a lucrative free agent market for him but as a starting point 3-yrs at league minimum is a pretty safe bet. I also think the upside of making more than the min and perhaps more importantly dictating a lot about where he plays has real value to him. I would not be surprised to see him drop his guarantee in his 3rd year to a couple million in a buyout. I go back to Wade who gave up a net $6 million (buyout less vet min) to dictate where he played. That was just to cut lose for one season. You might think that it's a different matter because it represented a smaller proportion of Wade's overall wealth. But through last season plus a buyout where Deng drops $15 million his career NBA earning would be about $160 million. Wade's net of his buyout was $200 million. That's the same zip code.
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| pio2u wrote: | | iimarshon wrote: | | RI Laker wrote: | WRONG!
You want to be critical of him as an executive, knock your socks off. To call him that stupid and ridiculous nickname (given by DOUCHE BAG Celtic fans) is UNACCEPTABLE. I guess some forgot that Magic broke the Leprechaun curse, changed the Lakers organization, and changed the NBA. |
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I guess the Magic hate is still strong for some. smh |
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