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| As the season moves forward I'm losing confidence in Luke. He seems to be one of those coach's that's only good for motivational speeches. |
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GabKoost
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| Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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| lakersfan22 wrote: | | Luke lost us that game. Why keep Randle on Embiid. I know embiid was hot but he was getting to the basket easily. |
Denial over 8000.
We all know who cost us (once again) this game. |
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TheeChosenLonzo
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EMbiid, Randle came into the league with broken jumper.
Embed played 33 games in 3 years and spent more time on injury reports but worked on his jumper.
Randle still here trying to get in shape and still bulldozing people under the basket
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818fan
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| Ujah's Goat wrote: | | eureca wrote: | | Why does KCP keep guarding Simmons like he can shoot 3's? Just giving him a driving lane. |
Seriously not understanding why we guarded Simmons out all the way to the 3 point line all night. Made no damn sense. |
I agree, but when given too much space he gets a head of steam and is pretty difficult to stop. |
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eureca
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Finally a game where Bogut played well and Luke could justify his decision to find him minutes. And he sits him the end of the game when Embiid checks in. He clearly was the Lakers best shot at defending him.
It almost felt like Luke wanted to embarrass Randle. A undersized big with short arms against a 7 foot beast. They didn't even double till very late. I am not saying anyone can stop Embiid but clearly that should have been Bogut's assignment. If not then why is he even here? |
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lakers0505
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| Does Embiid look lighter this year to anyone else? |
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leor_77
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| Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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| I wonder what Simmons' sister is going to say |
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crazylakerfan001
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| Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Well atleast we got the Suns next  |
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HeatCandela
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| Fracture wrote: | | GabKoost wrote: | Well, that's what happens when your alleged "star rookie" is a complete and utter bust to the point that Roy Hibbert might have a better jump shot.
This is a star driven league. The Lakers are bust driven as we lose YET ANOTHER close game as we look at a HORRENDOUS shooting stat line from Lonzo.
Choices have to be made starting now.
Do we want to WIN GAMES or do we want to keep forcing a bust into the starting line up just to save the management's face?
Because, honestly, keeping Lonzo as a starter or even having major minutes playing like this isn't healthy for anyone.
The players will start to get fed up with the preferential treatment and will begin to balme the L's on Lonzo thus poisoning the locker room.
Fans will soon bouh Lonzo as it's absolutely insupportable to watch him play.
Losing games because of consecutive comical displays of Shooting (and passivity)by Lonzo will also hinder our image as free agents do not want to be part of a circus.
In other words, we have a bust on our hands. Most top picks are balling out. Lonzo is sinking the Lakers as his lack of NBA basketball ability is roaring loud.
If i am the Lakers i'am trading him ASAP. |
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3peat_pete
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| lakers0505 wrote: | | Does Embiid look lighter this year to anyone else? |
looks the same as last year. |
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Christopher Walken
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I will always support our rooks and team but:
TWO MAX STARS OR BUST! |
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TheeChosenLonzo
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| leor_77 wrote: | | I wonder what Simmons' sister is going to say |
Ben, get me some Kuzz  |
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| MagicMamba88 wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | MagicMamba88 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | MagicMamba88 wrote: | | Randle is just a pylon out there against Embiid. |
As were Lopez and Bogut |
Bogut was at least respectable against Embiid on some possessions.
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yeah, Durant could miss two shots in about 5 minutes defended by Ingram too, doesn't mean he wouldn't be about to get 30 on him.
I doubt Bogut would have been able to keep up with Embiid in the long run, and obviously so did Luke. You can't ask Bogut to do that on extended minutes anymore anyway. |
yea i know Embiid is a special player which is why he went off against supposed great defensive player Deandre Jordan.
all I'm saying is that was some pathetic post defense. |
You don't stop a dominant post center with one guy, you stop them with smart double teams.
Randle did about as much as you could do against Embiid in the post without consistent help or a double team strategy and THAT is upon Luke to come up with or scheme for. But the way we played tonight it's as if Luke didn't have a single plan on how to defend Embiid, nor did he put one in place. His plan was hoping the talent would bail out the lack of a plan.
That was the biggest problem tonight if any. Not that Luke failed to make any real adjustments on Embiid, but the way we played insinuated that we didn't even have a plan for the guy.
That and Luke admitting to not watching much film of the guy in yesterdays practice outside of highlights on Sportscenter(correct me if I misheard that). And you have the recipe for disaster.
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bandiger
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| 3peat_pete wrote: | on the bright side, I really love Kuzma. this kid is fierce and is not afraid of the moment.
if he has the same drive next year, the sky is the limit for the kid. we might have finally found our gem. unfortunately it didn't come from any of our #2 picks. |
Come on now, BI showed up too. In fact he would have had a better game if not for the selfishness of JC/JR. |
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Fracture
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| Christopher Walken wrote: | I will always support our rooks and team but:
TWO MAX STARS OR BUST! |
Don't worry Magic got this handled |
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ThreePointBomber
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| lakersfever714 wrote: | | VujacicForThree wrote: | | BruceLeroy1985 wrote: | Ball is the weak link on this team his 11% FG% has given him an unreal +- of -18.
Send him to the D league. |
Because the rest of the team shot so well right? |
Yeah, Ingram and Kuz carried the load tonite. But it wasn't enough so they needed either Lonzo or someone else to step up in order to take the game. |
"Someone else." Why are we expecting our rookie pass first point guard to take over games?
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MJST
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| Christopher Walken wrote: | I will always support our rooks and team but:
TWO MAX STARS OR BUST! |
They aren't coming to a team that can't win over 33 games.
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NYClaker13
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| If Lonzo and Lopez can make a damn shot, we would have won. |
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ThreePointBomber
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| GabKoost wrote: | | lakersfan22 wrote: | | Luke lost us that game. Why keep Randle on Embiid. I know embiid was hot but he was getting to the basket easily. |
Denial over 8000.
We all know who cost us (once again) this game. |
Who are you talking about?
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Fracture
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| NYClaker13 wrote: | | If Lonzo and Lopez can make a damn shot, we would have won. |
They weren't even in the game. We got owned by Embiid. |
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| lakers0505 wrote: | | Does Embiid look lighter this year to anyone else? |
Being able to actually train your body without an off-season of injuries and setbacks to NBA shape and play consistent minutes to stay there, helps a lot.
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| Christopher Walken wrote: | I will always support our rooks and team but:
TWO MAX STARS OR BUST! |
Paul George or LEBRON would obviously be great but I’m really hoping we get DEMARCUS COUSINS.
Watching Embiid tonight is why.
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MJST
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| VujacicForThree wrote: | | GabKoost wrote: | | lakersfan22 wrote: | | Luke lost us that game. Why keep Randle on Embiid. I know embiid was hot but he was getting to the basket easily. |
Denial over 8000.
We all know who cost us (once again) this game. |
Who are you talking about? |
Considering 99% of his other posts I'm guessing he means Lonzo.
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| Can't really fault Randle for being manhandled by Embiid in the 4th, but JR's offensive repertoire is zero. He doesn't have the finesse required to finish in traffic and he's not a threat beyond 5-ft. At best, he's a sixth man on a borderline playoff team...really hope the team looks elsewhere at the trade deadline or in the off-season. |
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| Fracture wrote: | | NYClaker13 wrote: | | If Lonzo and Lopez can make a damn shot, we would have won. |
They weren't even in the game. We got owned by Embiid. |
Whenever we see Lopez starting a game on the perimeter instead of getting going in the post, count on it being a night Luke has no idea how to utilize him.
Did Lopez get many if any post touches tonight? I was kind of and kind of not watching the game, had other stuff to work on.
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