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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | My only worry with Troy Brown atm is his three point shooting. other than that he's very solid. |
So much easier to teach 3pt shooting than it is to know what it means to draw in a 2nd defender and consistently find the open man, and make the pass.
He's a PG out there, at wing size, and doesn't need the high USG. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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KeepItRealOrElse Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Troy Brown is a big boy too. 215lbs , 6'7. built like a SF, moves like a SF.. but with some guard skills for sure.. was a ball dominant guard in high school
Loved him before the year. his shooting has disappointed, but we've seen those reclamation projects turn out well, when the mechanics aren't bad to start. Would love to draft him, find a way to move up 5 spots! |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | Troy Brown is a big boy too. 215lbs , 6'7. built like a SF, moves like a SF.. but with some guard skills for sure.. was a ball dominant guard in high school
Loved him before the year. his shooting has disappointed, but we've seen those reclamation projects turn out well, when the mechanics aren't bad to start. Would love to draft him, find a way to move up 5 spots! |
I know I've been pro Hutchison all season long, but the real win is Troy.
It would be phenomenal if Troy comes off the bench to spell Ingram, and has that degree of playmaking to his game, even if the shot isn't all the way there yet. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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44TheLogo Star Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | Troy Brown is a big boy too. 215lbs , 6'7. built like a SF, moves like a SF.. but with some guard skills for sure.. was a ball dominant guard in high school
Loved him before the year. his shooting has disappointed, but we've seen those reclamation projects turn out well, when the mechanics aren't bad to start. Would love to draft him, find a way to move up 5 spots! |
I know I've been pro Hutchison all season long, but the real win is Troy.
It would be phenomenal if Troy comes off the bench to spell Ingram, and has that degree of playmaking to his game, even if the shot isn't all the way there yet. |
it might not be a comp that gets many people excited, but troy brown gives me some strong evan turner vibes, and i think getting a player of turner's caliber at the mid-late 1st round would be an excellent draft. _________________ substance over style |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | I've never heard of anyone talking about how Brunson runs the highest offensive rated team at the NCAA level. |
I have nothing negative to say about Brunson...I have always appreciated what he brings to the table, and I think he will have a long successful NBA career. I guess when you say overlooked, I compare that to Jevon, who had one single high major scholarship offer. Irregardless of what I or anyone thinks about him compared to Brunson.....I have to think there are a lot of Top 25 teams that could have used a Jevon Carter these past 4 years. I recall the year Carter came to WVU.....Dax Miles and Elijah Macon were considered the best WVU recruits in that class. |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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44TheLogo wrote: | Mike@LG wrote: | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | Troy Brown is a big boy too. 215lbs , 6'7. built like a SF, moves like a SF.. but with some guard skills for sure.. was a ball dominant guard in high school
Loved him before the year. his shooting has disappointed, but we've seen those reclamation projects turn out well, when the mechanics aren't bad to start. Would love to draft him, find a way to move up 5 spots! |
I know I've been pro Hutchison all season long, but the real win is Troy.
It would be phenomenal if Troy comes off the bench to spell Ingram, and has that degree of playmaking to his game, even if the shot isn't all the way there yet. |
it might not be a comp that gets many people excited, but troy brown gives me some strong evan turner vibes, and i think getting a player of turner's caliber at the mid-late 1st round would be an excellent draft. |
I was thinking more like the guy Boris Diaw was supposed to be, but he wasn't this natural, this young. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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KeepItRealOrElse Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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44TheLogo wrote: | Mike@LG wrote: | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | Troy Brown is a big boy too. 215lbs , 6'7. built like a SF, moves like a SF.. but with some guard skills for sure.. was a ball dominant guard in high school
Loved him before the year. his shooting has disappointed, but we've seen those reclamation projects turn out well, when the mechanics aren't bad to start. Would love to draft him, find a way to move up 5 spots! |
I know I've been pro Hutchison all season long, but the real win is Troy.
It would be phenomenal if Troy comes off the bench to spell Ingram, and has that degree of playmaking to his game, even if the shot isn't all the way there yet. |
it might not be a comp that gets many people excited, but troy brown gives me some strong evan turner vibes, and i think getting a player of turner's caliber at the mid-late 1st round would be an excellent draft. |
Ya I've seen that as well. Thick 6'7s with guard skills. Brown has more shooting upside though, just comparing forms. Turner's form is super broke, gotta watch out for those, Josh Jackson included |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | Mike@LG wrote: | I've never heard of anyone talking about how Brunson runs the highest offensive rated team at the NCAA level. |
I have nothing negative to say about Brunson...I have always appreciated what he brings to the table, and I think he will have a long successful NBA career. I guess when you say overlooked, I compare that to Jevon, who had one single high major scholarship offer. Irregardless of what I or anyone thinks about him compared to Brunson.....I have to think there are a lot of Top 25 teams that could have used a Jevon Carter these past 4 years. I recall the year Carter came to WVU.....Dax Miles and Elijah Macon were considered the best WVU recruits in that class. |
This isn't about individual players. I meant that it's overlooked that Villanova as a TEAM is ranked for best offensive rating, #1 for basically point spread + strength of schedule, etc.
Frankly, I don't care about the # of scholarship offers. It doesn't and shouldn't affect the way I look at a player.
I especially don't care about HS rankings.
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/class/2015/order/true _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | 44TheLogo wrote: | Mike@LG wrote: | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | Troy Brown is a big boy too. 215lbs , 6'7. built like a SF, moves like a SF.. but with some guard skills for sure.. was a ball dominant guard in high school
Loved him before the year. his shooting has disappointed, but we've seen those reclamation projects turn out well, when the mechanics aren't bad to start. Would love to draft him, find a way to move up 5 spots! |
I know I've been pro Hutchison all season long, but the real win is Troy.
It would be phenomenal if Troy comes off the bench to spell Ingram, and has that degree of playmaking to his game, even if the shot isn't all the way there yet. |
it might not be a comp that gets many people excited, but troy brown gives me some strong evan turner vibes, and i think getting a player of turner's caliber at the mid-late 1st round would be an excellent draft. |
Ya I've seen that as well. Thick 6'7s with guard skills. Brown has more shooting upside though, just comparing forms. Turner's form is super broke, gotta watch out for those, Josh Jackson included |
I don't recall Evan Turner being that decisive of a playmaker at Ohio St. I remember he was a really well-rounded player and considered "smooth," but never as deliberate as Troy attacking the defense, draw the help, hit the open man, both sides of the floor. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:07 am Post subject: |
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Trae Young to enter NBA draft
Quote: | Freshman guard Trae Young will leave the University of Oklahoma and enter the NBA draft in June, he told ESPN on Tuesday. |
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44TheLogo Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:25 am Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | 44TheLogo wrote: | Mike@LG wrote: | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | Troy Brown is a big boy too. 215lbs , 6'7. built like a SF, moves like a SF.. but with some guard skills for sure.. was a ball dominant guard in high school
Loved him before the year. his shooting has disappointed, but we've seen those reclamation projects turn out well, when the mechanics aren't bad to start. Would love to draft him, find a way to move up 5 spots! |
I know I've been pro Hutchison all season long, but the real win is Troy.
It would be phenomenal if Troy comes off the bench to spell Ingram, and has that degree of playmaking to his game, even if the shot isn't all the way there yet. |
it might not be a comp that gets many people excited, but troy brown gives me some strong evan turner vibes, and i think getting a player of turner's caliber at the mid-late 1st round would be an excellent draft. |
Ya I've seen that as well. Thick 6'7s with guard skills. Brown has more shooting upside though, just comparing forms. Turner's form is super broke, gotta watch out for those, Josh Jackson included |
I don't recall Evan Turner being that decisive of a playmaker at Ohio St. I remember he was a really well-rounded player and considered "smooth," but never as deliberate as Troy attacking the defense, draw the help, hit the open man, both sides of the floor. |
Brown is ahead of Turner as a freshman, easily. I'm just saying I think he fits Turner's NBA archetype _________________ substance over style |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:47 am Post subject: |
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It feels like Zhaire Smith's stock is going to rise to the point where he almost has to come out. Man, if he could somehow slip to our pick..... |
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Who is Dzanan Musa. Mock draft has us picking him at 24 _________________ Kobe |
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Luminous8 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Chronicle wrote: | Who is Dzanan Musa. Mock draft has us picking him at 24 |
Overrated. |
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44TheLogo Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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newest DX mock:
1. Ayton
2. Doncic
3. JJJ
4. Bagley
5. Bamba
6. WCJ
7. MPJ
8. Sexton
9. Young
10. Mikal Bridges
11. Miles Bridges
12. Lonnie Walker IV
13. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
14. Robert Williams
15. Kevin Knox
16. Aaron Holiday
17. Troy Brown Jr
18. Anfernee Simons
19. Daniel Gafford
20. Dzanan Musa
21. Mitchell Robinson
22. Keita Bates-Diop
23. Jacob Evans
24. Khyri Thomas
25. Bruce Brown
26. Chandler Hutchison
27. De'Anthony Melton
28. Melvin Frazier
29. Devonte Graham
30. Grayson Allen
31. Shake Milton
32. Landry Shamet
33. Jalen Brunson
34. Jerome Robinson
35. Tyus Battle
36. Chimezie Metu
37. Jalen Hudson
38. Tony Carr
39. Rodions Kurucs
40. Kevin Hervey
41. Trevon Duval
42. Rawle Alkins
43. Hamidou Diallo
44. Jevon Carter
45. Brandon McCoy
46. Svi Mykhailiuk
47. Elie Okobo
48. Moritz Wagner
49. Ray Spalding
50. Vincent Edwards
51. Arnoldas Kulboka
52. Bonzie Colson
53. MiKyle McIntosh
54. Amine Noua
55. Milik Yarbrough
56. Alize Johnson
57. Allonzo Trier
58. Billy Preston
59. Devon Hall
60. Karim Jallow
bolded Lakers picks
at 24 i would take hutchison, melton, milton, shamet, brunson, carter, okobo over bruce brown. maybe tony carr too.
at 43 i would take carter and okobo over diallo. 43 is probably decent value to try and coach diallo into a basketball player. _________________ substance over style |
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Dr. Funkbot Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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We should just re-name this thread to The Ask Mike thread!
Thanks for all of the knowledge! Now that DraftExpress is down, Mike is my main source for info. _________________ R.I.P. Doc Buss |
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LakersForever123 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | It feels like Zhaire Smith's stock is going to rise to the point where he almost has to come out. Man, if he could somehow slip to our pick..... |
Agree. I think he should declare. |
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LakersForever123 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Mike AT LG, if Zhaire Smith declares, do you see him available in the 20-25 draft range? |
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Luminous8 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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LakersForever123 wrote: | Mike@LG, if Zhaire Smith declares, do you see him available in the 20-25 draft range? |
Not after workouts and interviews. |
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Eindhoven Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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Chronicle wrote: | Who is Dzanan Musa. Mock draft has us picking him at 24 |
He has an impressive resume playing for Bosnia:
2014: Euro U-16, Top Scorer
2015: Euro U-16, Top Scorer, MVP, Assists Leader and Champion
2016: World U-17: Top Scorer, 1st Team
2017: Euro U-18, Top Scorer
SF, 6'9, prolific scorer from everywhere, but lacks athleticism.
I have no idea if he's a good prospect for #24, but he's worth looking. _________________ .... |
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Eindhoven Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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44TheLogo wrote: |
16. Aaron Holiday
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Wow! Everybody has him on the 2nd round. _________________ .... |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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44TheLogo wrote: | newest DX mock:
8. Sexton
9. Young |
Sexton over Trae Young....interesting.
44TheLogo wrote: | 12. Lonnie Walker IV |
Unless he shows out in workouts, feels too high in my opinion.
44TheLogo wrote: | 16. Aaron Holiday |
not buying, I would wager he is not considered in the top 25 picks.
44TheLogo wrote: | 18. Anfernee Simons |
do not get the Anfernee Simons experience....guy leaves Montverde because he is not getting PT....enrolls and plays at public school, does pretty good, then heads to IMG for a 5th year. He is older than some college Freshman in the draft....and has proved very little in my opinion. |
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Yong Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Damn Lebron playing so well and lifting Cavs
Our pick is falling like fly now. |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Yong wrote: | Damn Lebron playing so well and lifting Cavs
Our pick is falling like fly now. |
always assumed it would be 24-26....about where it was when we traded for it. |
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LakerLogic Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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Cavs have a pretty easy schedule remaining. |
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