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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:19 am    Post subject:

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^^^Finished with the win and 43 Points, 11 Rebounds, 7 Assists & 9 TO's...10 of 18 from 3!


Watched the highlights. Reminded me of this meme: https://i.redd.it/4kksczlf1x701.jpg

I'm impressed he has the strength and stamina to shoot 18 3 pointers (mostly from NBA range) off the dribble or when tightly contested. But it also rubs me the wrong way too. Don't know why. Maybe I just think they could've gotten better shots on some of those plays.
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adkindo wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
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i just checked nbadraft.net for (bleep) and giggles and saw they have luka doncic at #6

cmon man

Wasserman at B/R is much better, and yet he has Doncic at #3:
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The Luka backlash has begun!


I do think the lack of exceptional athleticism will cause some FO's to hesitate. I mean when you walk though your "How could this guy fail" scenarios.....that's his biggest flaw, right?


sure, but somehow trae young is #2 on their board? i don't see how you can be high on trae and down on luka
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adkindo wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
44TheLogo wrote:
i just checked nbadraft.net for (bleep) and giggles and saw they have luka doncic at #6

cmon man

Wasserman at B/R is much better, and yet he has Doncic at #3:
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The Luka backlash has begun!


I do think the lack of exceptional athleticism will cause some FO's to hesitate. I mean when you walk though your "How could this guy fail" scenarios.....that's his biggest flaw, right?

I don't see it as a point of failure given that he's not a bad athlete at all and he's performed so well against adult international competition at such a young age. His floor is quite high.

I can understand his athleticism being a concern when projecting his ceiling, but I don't see the intersection of superior athleticism and skill in any of the other top prospects in this draft to put them ahead of Doncic's elite skill package. Maybe Porter if he remained healthy or if Ayton was a better rim protector.
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44TheLogo wrote:
adkindo wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
44TheLogo wrote:
i just checked nbadraft.net for (bleep) and giggles and saw they have luka doncic at #6

cmon man

Wasserman at B/R is much better, and yet he has Doncic at #3:
Link

The Luka backlash has begun!


I do think the lack of exceptional athleticism will cause some FO's to hesitate. I mean when you walk though your "How could this guy fail" scenarios.....that's his biggest flaw, right?


sure, but somehow trae young is #2 on their board? i don't see how you can be high on trae and down on luka


Cause he’s putting up better numbers in his freshman year than Steph did in his junior year and against better competition while Doncic plays in Europe.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:58 am    Post subject:

BigGameHames wrote:
44TheLogo wrote:
adkindo wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
44TheLogo wrote:
i just checked nbadraft.net for (bleep) and giggles and saw they have luka doncic at #6

cmon man

Wasserman at B/R is much better, and yet he has Doncic at #3:
Link

The Luka backlash has begun!


I do think the lack of exceptional athleticism will cause some FO's to hesitate. I mean when you walk though your "How could this guy fail" scenarios.....that's his biggest flaw, right?


sure, but somehow trae young is #2 on their board? i don't see how you can be high on trae and down on luka


Cause he’s putting up better numbers in his freshman year than Steph did in his junior year and against better competition while Doncic plays in Europe.


are you saying that nbadraft.net are morons because if so i agree

or are you arguing that trae young's numbers are more impressive than luka's
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:05 am    Post subject:

44TheLogo wrote:
adkindo wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
44TheLogo wrote:
i just checked nbadraft.net for (bleep) and giggles and saw they have luka doncic at #6

cmon man

Wasserman at B/R is much better, and yet he has Doncic at #3:
Link

The Luka backlash has begun!


I do think the lack of exceptional athleticism will cause some FO's to hesitate. I mean when you walk though your "How could this guy fail" scenarios.....that's his biggest flaw, right?


sure, but somehow trae young is #2 on their board? i don't see how you can be high on trae and down on luka


NCAA accessibility to watch games. Trae, by position, is also a better athlete than Doncic by position, though I'd still start Doncic at 1.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:04 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
44TheLogo wrote:
adkindo wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
44TheLogo wrote:
i just checked nbadraft.net for (bleep) and giggles and saw they have luka doncic at #6

cmon man

Wasserman at B/R is much better, and yet he has Doncic at #3:
Link

The Luka backlash has begun!


I do think the lack of exceptional athleticism will cause some FO's to hesitate. I mean when you walk though your "How could this guy fail" scenarios.....that's his biggest flaw, right?


sure, but somehow trae young is #2 on their board? i don't see how you can be high on trae and down on luka


NCAA accessibility to watch games. Trae, by position, is also a better athlete than Doncic by position, though I'd still start Doncic at 1.


if your job is to watch games it's not that hard to watch doncic play. i can excuse the common fan for not seeing doncic play but i cannot excuse the supposed experts.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:16 am    Post subject:

I hate you Mitch!!!bamba or ayton would look real good in purple and gold
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Rank Name Position Team Age HT Wingspan

1. Luka Doncic PG Real Madrid 18.8 6-8 N/A
2. Deandre Ayton C Arizona 19.4 7-0 7-5
3. Marvin Bagley III PF/C Duke 18.8 6-11 7-0½
4. Mohamed Bamba C Texas 19.6 7-0 7-9
5. Michael Porter Jr. SF/PF Missouri 19.5 6-10 7-0
6. Trae Young PG Oklahoma 19.3 6-2 6-4
7. Jaren Jackson Jr. PF/C Michigan St 18.3 6-10 7-4
8. Collin Sexton PG Alabama 19.0 6-2 6-7
9. Miles Bridges SF/PF Michigan St 19.8 6-6 6-9
10. Mikal Bridges SF Villanova 21.3 6-7 7-1½
11. Kevin Knox SF/PF Kentucky 18.4 6-9 7-0
12. Robert Williams PF/C Texas A&M 20.2 6-9 7-5½
13. Daniel Gafford PF/C Arkansas 19.2 6-11 7-2
14. Wendell Carter Jr. C Duke 18.7 6-10 7-3
15. Dzanan Musa SF Cedevita 18.6 6-9 6-8½
16. Troy Brown SG Oregon 18.4 6-7 7-0
17. Lonnie Walker IV SG Miami FL 19.0 6-4 6-10½
18. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander PG/SG Kentucky 19.5 6-6 7-0
19. Bruce Brown SG Miami FL 21.4 6-3 6-8½
20. Chandler Hutchison SG Boise St 21.7 6-7 N/A
21. Mitchell Robinson C N/A 19.8 6-11 7-4
22. Anfernee Simons SG Team Breakdown 18.6 6-4 6-7
23. Trevon Duval PG Duke 19.4 6-3 6-3½
24. Hamidou Diallo SG Kentucky 19.4 6-5 7-0
25. Shake Milton PG/SG SMU 21.3 6-6 7-0
26. De’Anthony Melton PG/SG USC 19.6 6-3 6-8
27. Keita Bates-Diop SF Ohio St 21.9 6-7 N/A
28. Brandon McCoy C UNLV 19.6 6-11 7-1½
29. Khyri Thomas SG Creighton 21.6 6-3 N/A
30. Jontay Porter C Missouri 18.1 6-10 7-0
31. Justin Jackson SF/PF Maryland 20.9 6-7 7-3
32. Jarrey Foster SG SMU 21.1 6-6 N/A
33. Rodions Kurucs SF/PF Barcelona 2 19.9 6-10 N/A
34. Jalen Hudson SG Florida 21.6 6-5 N/A
35. Grayson Allen SG Duke 22.2 6-4 6-6½
36. Chimezie Metu PF/C USC 20.8 6-10 6-10½
37. Jevon Carter PG West Virginia 22.3 6-2 6-3
38. Devonte’ Graham PG Kansas 22.9 6-2 N/A
39. Markus Howard PG Marquette 18.8 6-0 6-0
40. Landry Shamet PG Wichita St 20.8 6-4 N/A
41. Marko Simonovic PF/C Siena 18.2 7-0 N/A
42. Aaron Holiday PG UCLA 21.2 6-1 6-6
43. Jacob Evans SF Cincinnati 20.5 6-6 N/A
44. Nickeil Alexander-Walker PG Virginia Tech 19.3 6-5 6-9
45. Austin Wiley C Auburn 19.0 6-11 7-5
46. Goga Bitadze C Mega Bemax 18.4 6-11 7-2
47. Tyus Battle SG/SF Syracuse 20.3 6-7 6-8
48. O’Shae Brissett PF Syracuse 19.5 6-9 6-11
49. Rawle Alkins SG Arizona 20.2 6-5 6-9
50. Jarred Vanderbilt SF Kentucky 18.7 6-8 7-1
51. Nick Richards C Kentucky 20.1 6-11 7-5
52. PJ Washington PF Kentucky 19.4 6-8 7-3
53. Kevin Hervey SF Texas Arlington 21.5 6-7 N/A
54. Brian Bowen SF N/A 19.2 6-7 6-9
55. Arnoldas Kulboka SF Capo D’Orlando 20.0 6-10 6-11
56. Bonzie Colson PF Notre Dame 22.0 6-5 6-11½
57. Isaac Bonga SF Frankfurt 18.1 6-9 7-0
58. Allonzo Trier SG Arizona 22.0 6-5 6-7
59. Jalen Brunson PG Villanova 21.3 6-2 6-3½
60. Amine Noua PF Villeurbanne 20.9 6-8 N/A
61. Lagerald Vick SF Kansas 21.0 6-5 N/A
62. Aleksa Radanov SG FMP 19.9 6-8 N/A
63. Tony Carr PG Penn St 20.2 6-3 6-8
64. Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk SG Kansas 20.6 6-8 6-5
65. Ethan Happ PF/C Wisconsin 21.6 6-10 N/A
66. Vincent Edwards SF Purdue 21.7 6-8 7-0
67. Terence Davis SG Mississippi 20.6 6-4 N/A
68. Kostas Antetokounmpo SF Dayton 20.1 6-10 7-2
69. Tryggvi Hlinason C Valencia 20.2 7-1 N/A
70. Abdoulaye N’doye PG Cholet 19.8 6-7 7-2
71. Tadas Sedekerskis SF Nevezis 20.0 6-10 6-9½
72. Alize Johnson PF Missouri St 21.7 6-9 N/A
73. Ray Spalding PF Louisville 20.8 6-10 7-1
74. Donta Hall PF/C Alabama 20.4 6-9 7-4
75. Rui Hachimura PF Gonzaga 19.9 6-8 N/A
76. Moritz Wagner C Michigan 20.7 6-11 7-0
77. DJ Hogg SF/PF Texas A&M 21.3 6-9 6-10½
78. Matur Maker C Team Loaded VA 20.0 6-10 7-2
79. Isaac Haas C Purdue 22.2 7-2 7-4
80. Matisse Thybulle SG Washington 20.8 6-5 N/A
81. Jordan Murphy PF Minnesota 20.8 6-6 N/A
82. Kostja Mushidi SG Mega Bemax 19.5 6-5 7-1
83. Karim Jallow SF Bayern Muenchen 20.7 6-7 6-8
84. Vasilis Charalampopoulos PF PAOK 21.0 6-9 N/A
85. Malik Pope SF San Diego St 21.4 6-10 7-2
86. Bryant Crawford PG Wake Forest 20.8 6-3 6-7
87. D’Marcus Simonds PG/SG Georgia St 20.2 6-3 N/A
88. Aric Holman PF/C Mississippi St. 20.5 6-10 N/A
89. Josh Okogie SG Georgia Tech 19.3 6-4 7-0
90. Maximo Fjellerup SF/PF Bahia Blanca 20.1 6-7 N/A
91. Elie Okobo PG Pau-Orthez 20.2 6-3 N/A
92. Vanja Marinkovic SG Partizan 21.0 6-7 6-7
93. Dakota Mathias SG Purdue 22.5 6-4 N/A
94. Jeffrey Carroll SF Oklahoma St 23.2 6-6 6-6½
95. Omer Yurtseven C N.C. State 19.5 7-0 7-1
96. Donte Grantham SF Clemson 22.8 6-8 N/A
97. Viny Okouo C Malaga 20.7 7-2 N/A
98. Tyler Hall SG Montana St 20.8 6-4 N/A
99. Milik Yarbrough SG/SF Illinois St 22.2 6-6 N/A
100. Theo Pinson SF North Carolina 22.2 6-6 6-11


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:55 am    Post subject:

Dzanan Musa as a mid-teens pick continues to confuse me. He's a guaranteed non-defender, a streaky shooter (his strength), and he makes silly decisions when he gets sped up. He's a late-1st draft n' stash at best, imo.

Also, DX keeps trying to make Justin Jackson happen when he's barely functional on offense.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:57 am    Post subject:

44TheLogo wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
44TheLogo wrote:
adkindo wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
44TheLogo wrote:
i just checked nbadraft.net for (bleep) and giggles and saw they have luka doncic at #6

cmon man

Wasserman at B/R is much better, and yet he has Doncic at #3:
Link

The Luka backlash has begun!


I do think the lack of exceptional athleticism will cause some FO's to hesitate. I mean when you walk though your "How could this guy fail" scenarios.....that's his biggest flaw, right?


sure, but somehow trae young is #2 on their board? i don't see how you can be high on trae and down on luka


Cause he’s putting up better numbers in his freshman year than Steph did in his junior year and against better competition while Doncic plays in Europe.


are you saying that nbadraft.net are morons because if so i agree

or are you arguing that trae young's numbers are more impressive than luka's


Neither. Just explaining what their thought process likely was. There’s been guys who killed in Europe and struggled here albeit not at Doncic age but there have been very few if any to do what Young is doing. The most comparable is a two time MVP/champion.

I haven’t seen Doncic in more than just highlights, have you? I don’t think anybody can form a reliable opinion based off highlights and stats so I don’t have an opinion of who’s better.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:25 am    Post subject:

Flier on Kostas?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:30 am    Post subject:

It’s really important that whoever we draft can’t shot. Heck
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:46 am    Post subject:

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If he keeps making plays like this https://twitter.com/flyer_faithful/status/954784074677325824 wouldn't surprise me if he went early 2nd I guess, idk. Also wouldn't surprise me if he stayed in school another year, because his family is well off

If he can really handle like that. Ya, I'm very down to take him. He kind of goes against our draft thought-process though - drafting guys pretty ready to contribute
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:12 am    Post subject:

Billy Preston - who was being held out while KU was investigating the origins of the car Preston was driving when he got into a car accident last November - has decided to turn pro. He'll play for Bosnian team BC Igokea for the remainder of the season and then enter the draft.

Preston's an athletic 6'11 face-up PF with questions about his shot selection and motor. He's not typically mocked among the top 50-60 players in the draft. But he's young with more upside than you typically find in the 40s pick range, so may be someone to monitor at the Lakers pick.

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^^^guy was a 5 Star...top 20 player in the country coming out of high school....not that upset that he will not be taking the court for Kansas.
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watching this Texas @ WVU game....have a little more love for Mo Bamba...guy basically shuts does the paint completely when he is on the court.
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watching this Texas @ WVU game....have a little more love for Mo Bamba...guy basically shuts does the paint completely when he is on the court.

WVU was killing them on the offensive glass when Bamba would go to help - the chubby white dude with David Cassidy hair was boxing out worth crap.
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^^^guy was a 5 Star...top 20 player in the country coming out of high school....not that upset that he will not be taking the court for Kansas.

I saw a couple full Oak Hill games last year because I apparently have no life, and Preston looked very Andray Blatche to me. But you never know if the light is going to go on for some of these young guys.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:51 pm    Post subject:

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Flier on Kostas?


If he keeps making plays like this https://twitter.com/flyer_faithful/status/954784074677325824 wouldn't surprise me if he went early 2nd I guess, idk. Also wouldn't surprise me if he stayed in school another year, because his family is well off

If he can really handle like that. Ya, I'm very down to take him. He kind of goes against our draft thought-process though - drafting guys pretty ready to contribute


I don't think the Lakers deliberately drafted guys that were ready to contribute last season.

I just see Kostas lacking range but playing backup 5 and pushing tempo after rebs.
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44TheLogo wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
44TheLogo wrote:
adkindo wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
44TheLogo wrote:
i just checked nbadraft.net for (bleep) and giggles and saw they have luka doncic at #6

cmon man

Wasserman at B/R is much better, and yet he has Doncic at #3:
Link

The Luka backlash has begun!


I do think the lack of exceptional athleticism will cause some FO's to hesitate. I mean when you walk though your "How could this guy fail" scenarios.....that's his biggest flaw, right?


sure, but somehow trae young is #2 on their board? i don't see how you can be high on trae and down on luka


NCAA accessibility to watch games. Trae, by position, is also a better athlete than Doncic by position, though I'd still start Doncic at 1.


if your job is to watch games it's not that hard to watch doncic play. i can excuse the common fan for not seeing doncic play but i cannot excuse the supposed experts.


I don't watch NCAA enough to give an opinion on who is #1, but I watch a little bit of European basketball. If someone is better than Doncic is this draft, the kid is really, really good. I've never seen someone doing what he does at the age of 18. He is arguably the best player in Europe right now, which is crazy.
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Trae Young 48 Points / 5 Rebounds / 8 Assists / 7 turnovers in OT loss @ Oklahoma State....but he had horrible shot selection.....14 of 38 FG, 8 of 19 3FG and 12 of 12 from the line.

Too many TO's and bad shots from the guy....he is carrying his team while killing them at the same time.
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Jevon Carter with 22 Points / 4 Rebounds / 8 Assists in 86-51 win over Texas....shot 4 of 7 from 3.

The big showdown in that game was between the two best shot blockers in the Big12....Mo Bamba and Sags Konate

Bamba - 9 Points / 13 Rebounds / 0 Assists / 4 Blocks

Konate - 10 Points / 14 Rebounds / 3 Assists / 6 Blocks

Sags is interesting....19 year old Sophomore with some decent offensive moves, a soft touch, and a great rim protector.....but he is only 6'9"ish (actually only listed @ 6'8").
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:53 pm    Post subject:

Trae Young looks amazing at the college level, but I wonder how he will translate to the pros. Nobody on Oklahoma State could guard him... even their so called defensive stopper looked like Lopez trying to guard him. His FT shooting looked Hardenesque... it was like an automated machine hitting perfect swishes every shot. On the other hand he seems really small. I think Ball is a better playmaker but that kid's shooting and quick movement reminds me of a young Chris Paul.
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How Hutchison got 44 over SDSU.
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