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Who will be the Lakers starting center next season? |
Brook Lopez (comes back for 7-12m+ range) |
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16% |
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Julius Randle (12m cap hold + then extended over cap) |
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4% |
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DeMarcus Cousins (max deal) |
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62% |
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Dwayne Dedmon (5-10m) |
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1% |
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Nerlens Noel |
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14% |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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greenfrog wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | greenfrog wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | greenfrog wrote: | I wouldn't be surprised if it was Nance by utility. He's cheap. |
He's not very good at center. |
If you have Lebron and PG13 does it really matter? |
Actually yes. Need a rim protector and big man who can switch.
Tristan at his peak (pre-Kardashian) provided a bit of both. |
Who's the rim protector on the Celtics? If everyone can stay in front of their man it's not that important. |
They don't have a rim protector, but Horford >>> Nance, not even close as a center. (on both ends). _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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tj24 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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If they whiff in free agency it could be Okafor. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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tj24 wrote: | If they whiff in free agency it could be Okafor. |
Dear lord no. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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MJST Retired Number
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That's the frustrating thing when it comes to Okafor.
Offensively he's every bit the talent they say Embiid is, if not more so.
He can hit from mid range and he has a handle where he could take it from the perimeter.
He's very similar to DeMarcus Cousins in that aspect.
His defense however is his biggest weak point.
If we actually had a coaching staff that was good at player development that focused on all our young players instead of one or two(which is a problem that plagues some young teams), then I'd actually have faith that they'd be drilling defense with Okafor, be it verticality or understanding angles.
He obviously has the talent for it. He also has a 7'6 wingspan and a 9'3 standing reach, just an inch and a half shorter than Thomas Bryant's,
So Okafor has all the tools necessary to be a two way center or at the very least a borderline superstar talent on the offensive end, and an average defender.
If Okafor could do that he will be a star in this league.
It's just about at this point if you can get him to understand that about defense, because if he just got verticality down that would be a huge step. He's already got chops defending people in the post based on his reach alone, with no real knowledge of how to utilize it on the defensive end.
IF we were to get Okafor, and were to work with him on defense primarily and he actually had an understanding of verticality and angles, we'd have a steal.
The problem is getting him there and if our player development staff is good enough to do it. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
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2019 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | That's the frustrating thing when it comes to Okafor.
Offensively he's every bit the talent they say Embiid is, if not more so.
He can hit from mid range and he has a handle where he could take it from the perimeter.
He's very similar to DeMarcus Cousins in that aspect.
His defense however is his biggest weak point.
If we actually had a coaching staff that was good at player development that focused on all our young players instead of one or two(which is a problem that plagues some young teams), then I'd actually have faith that they'd be drilling defense with Okafor, be it verticality or understanding angles.
He obviously has the talent for it. He also has a 7'6 wingspan and a 9'3 standing reach, just an inch and a half shorter than Thomas Bryant's,
So Okafor has all the tools necessary to be a two way center or at the very least a borderline superstar talent on the offensive end, and an average defender.
If Okafor could do that he will be a star in this league.
It's just about at this point if you can get him to understand that about defense, because if he just got verticality down that would be a huge step. He's already got chops defending people in the post based on his reach alone, with no real knowledge of how to utilize it on the defensive end.
IF we were to get Okafor, and were to work with him on defense primarily and he actually had an understanding of verticality and angles, we'd have a steal.
The problem is getting him there and if our player development staff is good enough to do it. |
Jah is a supreme offensive/post talent but it's not about player development with him, he shows no interest whatsoever in playing D. |
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The Juggernaut Star Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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Cousins and PG13 |
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Dr. Funkbot Star Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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Why is Zubac not on the list!!!!!!????? _________________ R.I.P. Doc Buss |
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Lakesh0wtime Star Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Boogie or Okafor. Lol |
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Lakesh0wtime Star Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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With all the predraft hype that we'd draft Okafor it'll be pretty crazy if we ended up signing him lol.
For his sake, wherever he goes I hope this experience has made him hungry.
I thought offensively at least he could dominate in this league. |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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Clint Capela's twin would be cool. |
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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PLZ COUSINS!! |
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AFireInside619 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | tj24 wrote: | If they whiff in free agency it could be Okafor. |
Dear lord no. |
Okafor is currently a 73 in 2k. |
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AFireInside619 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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I'm pretty sure we are maxed out on Duke players already... |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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greenfrog wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | greenfrog wrote: | I wouldn't be surprised if it was Nance by utility. He's cheap. |
He's not very good at center. |
If you have Lebron and PG13 does it really matter? |
Then put LeBron at C. Yeah, it kinda matters. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
https://lakersdraft.substack.com/
I am not an economic advisor nor do I advise economic strategies or plans. |
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dao Star Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | greenfrog wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | greenfrog wrote: | I wouldn't be surprised if it was Nance by utility. He's cheap. |
He's not very good at center. |
If you have Lebron and PG13 does it really matter? |
Then put LeBron at C. Yeah, it kinda matters. | Lebron probably wouldn't be down for it, playing center full time would be extremely physically taxing for a 34 year old player. But gosh...
Lonzo
George
Ingram
Kuzma
Lebron
At the very least, it's a helluva death lineup. Maybe give Thomas Bryant or Zubac a token 10 mpg at starting center. Or some other ring chasing, semi-washed up, ring chasing vet center. |
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SGVL1 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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T Bryant or Zubac. After striking out on free agents and having a pick 2019 it will be time to TANK once again |
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chekmatex4 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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Zubac |
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greenfrog Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | greenfrog wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | greenfrog wrote: | I wouldn't be surprised if it was Nance by utility. He's cheap. |
He's not very good at center. |
If you have Lebron and PG13 does it really matter? |
Then put LeBron at C. Yeah, it kinda matters. |
I would love to! I don't think he'd be down for it, however.
The point is if you spend $65m on two players you have to be willing to cut corners at some positions. Nance at a center is a trade off I'm betting they're willing to make. |
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markjay Star Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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I haven't been that enthusiastic about getting Cousins. But when I saw how Embiid abused our centers yesterday, I am sold. We need him. |
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lakersfan32 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Bogut and Zubac, hopefully after we get the two max guys. |
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iimarshon Star Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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greenfrog wrote: | Mike@LG wrote: | greenfrog wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | greenfrog wrote: | I wouldn't be surprised if it was Nance by utility. He's cheap. |
He's not very good at center. |
If you have Lebron and PG13 does it really matter? |
Then put LeBron at C. Yeah, it kinda matters. |
I would love to! I don't think he'd be down for it, however.
The point is if you spend $65m on two players you have to be willing to cut corners at some positions. Nance at a center is a trade off I'm betting they're willing to make. |
If we got Bron and PG, id have Nance be small ball center and instead try and go get a cheaper guy like Dedmon or something to be the center. _________________ 24 |
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Omar Little Moderator
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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iimarshon wrote: | greenfrog wrote: | Mike@LG wrote: | greenfrog wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | greenfrog wrote: | I wouldn't be surprised if it was Nance by utility. He's cheap. |
He's not very good at center. |
If you have Lebron and PG13 does it really matter? |
Then put LeBron at C. Yeah, it kinda matters. |
I would love to! I don't think he'd be down for it, however.
The point is if you spend $65m on two players you have to be willing to cut corners at some positions. Nance at a center is a trade off I'm betting they're willing to make. |
If we got Bron and PG, id have Nance be small ball center and instead try and go get a cheaper guy like Dedmon or something to be the center. |
For whatever reason, name has just bombed as a small ball center, but works as a four. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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Gellollo Star Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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Lakesh0wtime wrote: | With all the predraft hype that we'd draft Okafor it'll be pretty crazy if we ended up signing him lol.
For his sake, wherever he goes I hope this experience has made him hungry.
I thought offensively at least he could dominate in this league. |
Remember when he wanted to be a Laker so badly? (Did he say that publicly or was it just inferred by the fans?). Too bad he didn't have a Lavar Ball for a father. |
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AFireInside619 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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Gellollo wrote: | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | With all the predraft hype that we'd draft Okafor it'll be pretty crazy if we ended up signing him lol.
For his sake, wherever he goes I hope this experience has made him hungry.
I thought offensively at least he could dominate in this league. |
Remember when he wanted to be a Laker so badly? (Did he say that publicly or was it just inferred by the fans?). Too bad he didn't have a Lavar Ball for a father. |
He had Magic's blessing though lol. Embiid wanted to be a Laker too. Sigh... |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:46 am Post subject: |
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iimarshon wrote: | If we got Bron and PG, id have Nance be small ball center and instead try and go get a cheaper guy like Dedmon or something to be the center. |
how cheap do you expect Dedmon to be next summer? He has an option for $6.3 Million....so unless he is confident he can get $8-$12 Million for multiple years, I doubt he would opt out. |
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