D'Angelo Russell has arthroscopic surgery on left knee
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:38 pm    Post subject: D'Angelo Russell has arthroscopic surgery on left knee

He's been playing well, and now this. He had some knee issues last year. I wonder if this was one reason Magic and Rob shipped him out.

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NEW YORK -- Brooklyn Nets guard D'Angelo Russell had arthroscopic surgery on his left knee Friday.

The procedure was performed by Dr. Riley Williams III at the Hospital for Special Surgery. No timetable for his return was announced.

"It's an arthroscopic surgery, so the plan would be for him to return this season," general manager Sean Marks said. "It's definitely frustrating for D'Angelo. He's going into this as another challenge. He knows he'll bounce back from this and we have no doubts in our mind that he'll be better and stronger than he was before."


http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21449674/dangelo-russell-undergoes-knee-surgery-brooklyn-nets-disclose-line-return
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:06 pm    Post subject:

Hmmm. Unfortunate.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:03 pm    Post subject:

There were talks last year when he hurt his knee that gen might need surgery this offseason.. maybe that's what he's forced to do now.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:11 pm    Post subject:

that sucks.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:30 pm    Post subject:

Sucks. But I know there were people wondering about his knees when he got PRP so young. Hopefully he can stay healthy.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:07 pm    Post subject:



Had a great start... hope he is back soon
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:19 am    Post subject:

mhan00 wrote:
Sucks. But I know there were people wondering about his knees when he got PRP so young. Hopefully he can stay healthy.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:10 am    Post subject:

Yikes. That sucks. Love D'lo but it's looking like trading him was the best move. Hopefully he can put his health behind him a la Steph post 2012 or whatever
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:25 am    Post subject:

tox wrote:
Yikes. That sucks. Love D'lo but it's looking like trading him was the best move. Hopefully he can put his health behind him a la Steph post 2012 or whatever


This is what Iím hoping for. People thought that Steph was going to be too frail to stay in the league and this that and the third and we can see where that went so...
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:44 am    Post subject:

If you are a Nets fan you have nothing to look forward to....both of your PG's are down for the count.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:46 am    Post subject:

Any concern for long term? Should be 4-6 weeks right?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:37 pm    Post subject:

Should he consider Germany?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:56 pm    Post subject:

His knees worried me much more than his game did when he was here.

Skillwise he looks to be a shoe-in as an all-star caliber player for many years, except every time he has a knee "thing" he regresses a bit and it takes him awhile to catch back up.

I worry this might be a chronic issue for him. He's not knock-kneed like Andrew was, but he does have baby deer legs sometimes.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:03 am    Post subject:

Looks like knee(s) that are not suited for heavy minutes, or the grind of the league.

He has consistently returned and missed a few games the last couple of years.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:30 am    Post subject:

Maybe the Nets should trade DLo for Okafor
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:57 pm    Post subject:

VegasLakerFan wrote:
His knees worried me much more than his game did when he was here.

Skillwise he looks to be a shoe-in as an all-star caliber player for many years, except every time he has a knee "thing" he regresses a bit and it takes him awhile to catch back up.

I worry this might be a chronic issue for him. He's not knock-kneed like Andrew was, but he does have baby deer legs sometimes.


Did anyone ever figure out what exactly was so bad about Bynum's knees? Were the initial injuries caused by Odom and Kobe falling into his knees just freak accidents, or would those not have caused injuries to a player with normal knees?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:24 pm    Post subject:

governator wrote:
Maybe the Nets should trade DLo for Okafor


You want the 76ers to have a starting lineup of

Markelle Fultz
D'Angelo Russell
Ben Simmons
Dario Saric
Joel Embiid

With 4 of the 5 on rookie contracts...


May as well just start packing LeBron's bags to Philly while we're at it.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:22 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
VegasLakerFan wrote:
His knees worried me much more than his game did when he was here.

Skillwise he looks to be a shoe-in as an all-star caliber player for many years, except every time he has a knee "thing" he regresses a bit and it takes him awhile to catch back up.

I worry this might be a chronic issue for him. He's not knock-kneed like Andrew was, but he does have baby deer legs sometimes.


Did anyone ever figure out what exactly was so bad about Bynum's knees? Were the initial injuries caused by Odom and Kobe falling into his knees just freak accidents, or would those not have caused injuries to a player with normal knees?


Odom didn't fall into Bynum's knees. Bynum stepped on Odom's foot, which somehow dislocated his kneecap, iirc. Odom gets a bum rap for that all the time.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:41 pm    Post subject:

mhan00 wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
VegasLakerFan wrote:
His knees worried me much more than his game did when he was here.

Skillwise he looks to be a shoe-in as an all-star caliber player for many years, except every time he has a knee "thing" he regresses a bit and it takes him awhile to catch back up.

I worry this might be a chronic issue for him. He's not knock-kneed like Andrew was, but he does have baby deer legs sometimes.


Did anyone ever figure out what exactly was so bad about Bynum's knees? Were the initial injuries caused by Odom and Kobe falling into his knees just freak accidents, or would those not have caused injuries to a player with normal knees?


Odom didn't fall into Bynum's knees. Bynum stepped on Odom's foot, which somehow dislocated his kneecap, iirc. Odom gets a bum rap for that all the time.



Yeah, actually Odom didn't really do much...
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:34 pm    Post subject:

Shameless self quote incoming. Looks like I was off by about 6 months though.

dont_be_a_wuss wrote:


Many times when players get PRP mid season, it is because they are trying to buy time before an inevitable surgery. Will bump this in May if it turns out to be the case.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:35 pm    Post subject:

dont_be_a_wuss wrote:
Shameless self quote incoming. Looks like I was off by about 6 months though.

dont_be_a_wuss wrote:


Many times when players get PRP mid season, it is because they are trying to buy time before an inevitable surgery. Will bump this in May if it turns out to be the case.


Close enough.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:47 pm    Post subject:

governator wrote:
Any concern for long term? Should be 4-6 weeks right?


Hard to say when the team is not giving any insight. Arthroscopic surgery is just the name of the technique of going in with a camera and a knife. The amount of work they did in there would decide the time frame.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:13 am    Post subject:

mhan00 wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
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His knees worried me much more than his game did when he was here.

Skillwise he looks to be a shoe-in as an all-star caliber player for many years, except every time he has a knee "thing" he regresses a bit and it takes him awhile to catch back up.

I worry this might be a chronic issue for him. He's not knock-kneed like Andrew was, but he does have baby deer legs sometimes.


Did anyone ever figure out what exactly was so bad about Bynum's knees? Were the initial injuries caused by Odom and Kobe falling into his knees just freak accidents, or would those not have caused injuries to a player with normal knees?


Odom didn't fall into Bynum's knees. Bynum stepped on Odom's foot, which somehow dislocated his kneecap, iirc. Odom gets a bum rap for that all the time.


Kind of a hybrid landing and stepping mishap, but full weight of body involved, which seems to be the most important aspect. You can see his leg/knee torque on the sideline angle. That said, the 1997 Shaq injury was the toe of his shoe landing square on the heel of an opponent and he had major surgery and a leg cast and wheelchair. His was a tendon thing, tho, but those landings are killers. In Shaq's case, that hyperextension of his leg backward made you wanna puke looking at it. And as you probably recall, the Minnesota doctor cleared him to go back out and do more damage to it. He did 5 more trips and 2 dunks before checking himself out.

Bynum: https://youtu.be/sSXxL-UO4fk?t=414

Priz's patella dislocated on the first hop before that landing that surely didn't help. At 4 secs, you can see his knee pop when it hit the ground if you replay it right. He landed the first time and it looks like an explosion in his knee. I read that he reinjured himself while slipping in the shower and needed another surgery on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pKaBW99GgY

Mutombo did it to himself. It appeared to be a misplaced toe and a hop too. That was his career ender.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_eY-FWAb2s

In this one involving Oden, it looked like the injury took place on the jump, not the landing. His left leg seemed to shoot back in a weird way before he even fell and grabbed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dcXWZuTWDM
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:41 am    Post subject:

Injuries are (increasingly) killing the NBA competition.
Maybe the talent is too much dilluted.

Is there any stats on average games lost to injury per team / season?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:01 am    Post subject:

hopefully dlo gets the car pass before parking in the handi-spot.
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