Joined: 15 Sep 2012 Posts: 29150 Location: La La Land
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:59 pm Post subject:
I think weather and housing made within the last 20 years are 2 underappreciated factors LA has. I've had some schooling back East and those 2 things REALLY made me miss LA. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
Joined: 18 Dec 2015 Posts: 5234 Location: So what's the uh...topic of discussion?
Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:51 am Post subject:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
Huey Lewis & The News wrote:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
Huey Lewis & The News wrote:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
I really don’t sense much animosity toward LA. It’s more a sense that LA is ridiculous and self-absorbed
Is that worse than being populous yet uncharming and absorbent, like Houston?
Eh. As I said, LA seems to have embraced its image. You certainly have.
I don't embrace that description at all. "Ridiculous" and "self-absorbed" are things you'd say about LA if you had to burn any stretch of your life in southeast Texas. I'd be pretty salty too.
This is interesting. Based on the original post and your lame attempts at trash talking, it appears that some of you have a need to believe that people in other places actually care.
You're right that I'm trash talking, but for you to say that there isn't a large enough number of people walking around with a chip on their shoulder about LA to be noticeable means that you're oblivious, even for a (bleep)-booted Texan. I wouldn't corroborate it if I hadn't encountered it several times myself.
If you get around enough, you come across people who dislike places they've been to, yes? Some dislike certain cities more than others. Some people really dislike LA/California for various reasons, and they usually like to tell you about it when they hear you're from there.
This really is a thing, Tex. As an experiment, go walk around your own town if it's safe to leave the house without a snorkel yet. Unstrap that goofy (bleep) stetson hat and replace it with a dodgers cap. Put on a pair of shorts and some wayfarers. Talk to the locals, ask for directions, and this is very important--try to go 15 minutes without saying "y'all" out loud. If you see a bull, use your best anti-anxiety exercises to try to keep from driving it into a pen, just be cool, leave work at work. Soon enough, someone will make a snarky comment about LA. Probably something about it being "ridiculous" and "self-absorbed". _________________ "All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers."
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You're right that I'm trash talking, but for you to say that there isn't a large enough number of people walking around with a chip on their shoulder about LA to be noticeable means that you're oblivious, even for a (bleep)-booted Texan. I wouldn't corroborate it if I hadn't encountered it several times myself.
If you get around enough, you come across people who dislike places they've been to, yes? Some dislike certain cities more than others. Some people really dislike LA/California for various reasons, and they usually like to tell you about it. This really is a thing, Tex.
Based on the way you present yourself here, I suspect that people in other places just dislike you. I'm sure regular people from LA get along just fine.
Joined: 18 Dec 2015 Posts: 5234 Location: So what's the uh...topic of discussion?
Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:06 am Post subject:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
Huey Lewis & The News wrote:
You're right that I'm trash talking, but for you to say that there isn't a large enough number of people walking around with a chip on their shoulder about LA to be noticeable means that you're oblivious, even for a (bleep)-booted Texan. I wouldn't corroborate it if I hadn't encountered it several times myself.
If you get around enough, you come across people who dislike places they've been to, yes? Some dislike certain cities more than others. Some people really dislike LA/California for various reasons, and they usually like to tell you about it. This really is a thing, Tex.
Based on the way you present yourself here, I suspect that people in other places just dislike you. I'm sure regular people from LA get along just fine.
Most people don't dislike me until they get to know me.
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 52624 Location: Making a safety stop at 15 feet.
Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:36 am Post subject:
ringfinger wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
I don't think people hate Los Angeles at all.
Now Hollywood? Different story.
99% of people who hate "Hollywood" have no real understanding of what "Hollywood" actually is.
I'm not really sure that is relevant even if true.
Plus, anyone could just say the same made up percentage about the haters of any other city.
You brought that irrelevant thing up. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
The nice thing is that people who don't like it here don't have to live here, and those of us that like it aren't too worried about converting the dissidents.
THIS...! _________________ “Always remember... Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.”
Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 8288 Location: Santa Monica
Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:34 pm Post subject:
LakerLanny wrote:
slavavov wrote:
ocho wrote:
Quote:
What's funny is that while the other big boys hate California, and norcal has some strange inferiority complex with socal, the feelings are never mutual.
I went to UCSB, which is generally a mix of socal and NorCal kids. Until I got there I was totally unaware of the "Norcal" brand, or the supposed feud between the two poles.
I also went to UCSB, and when I got there it was the first time I had ever heard that people from Norcal hated us as much as they do. Then I had some cool roommates from the Bay Area, and I started to realize that the Norcal-Socal rivalry is silly and almost pointless. It's interesting how going away to college broadens our horizons as much as it does.
How did you guys enjoy your time at UCSB? My 18 year old son is applying there as we speak among other schools.
I love the location and Isla Vista (my son loves to surf) plus the University itself has really risen in the academic rankings to be very strong.
I also had tons of friends in college (San Diego State) from NoCal, many of my best friends actually so I know what you are saying. Friendly rivalry is fun, NoCal is a great place (don't quote me )
I think this is the main thing if you're a parent. Everyone knows how fun IV can be, although I've heard the party scene has become watered down in the last 9 yrs or so since I graduated and left. UCSB has had several Nobel Prize winners amongst its faculty. It has also been ranked one of the top 10 public schools in the nation for a while. Plus, not sure if you live in the L.A. area, but if you do it is the perfect distance, it's definitely outside of the metropolitan area but close enough for an easy day trip. _________________ Lakers 49ers Chargers Dodgers
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 52624 Location: Making a safety stop at 15 feet.
Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:04 pm Post subject:
slavavov wrote:
LakerLanny wrote:
slavavov wrote:
ocho wrote:
Quote:
What's funny is that while the other big boys hate California, and norcal has some strange inferiority complex with socal, the feelings are never mutual.
I went to UCSB, which is generally a mix of socal and NorCal kids. Until I got there I was totally unaware of the "Norcal" brand, or the supposed feud between the two poles.
I also went to UCSB, and when I got there it was the first time I had ever heard that people from Norcal hated us as much as they do. Then I had some cool roommates from the Bay Area, and I started to realize that the Norcal-Socal rivalry is silly and almost pointless. It's interesting how going away to college broadens our horizons as much as it does.
How did you guys enjoy your time at UCSB? My 18 year old son is applying there as we speak among other schools.
I love the location and Isla Vista (my son loves to surf) plus the University itself has really risen in the academic rankings to be very strong.
I also had tons of friends in college (San Diego State) from NoCal, many of my best friends actually so I know what you are saying. Friendly rivalry is fun, NoCal is a great place (don't quote me )
I think this is the main thing if you're a parent. Everyone knows how fun IV can be, although I've heard the party scene has become watered down in the last 9 yrs or so since I graduated and left. UCSB has had several Nobel Prize winners amongst its faculty. It has also been ranked one of the top 10 public schools in the nation for a while. Plus, not sure if you live in the L.A. area, but if you do it is the perfect distance, it's definitely outside of the metropolitan area but close enough for an easy day trip.
Sums it up perfectly _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
NYC is the capital of the world, if the winter lasted less than a month, it would be the best place to live on earth (but you need $)
Have you waited for a subway there in the summer? It's also overly congested, buildings and infrastructure are old, and it really does smell like urine in half the city. _________________ Luxury Tax/FA Spreadsheet (Save to your Google Drive to edit)
Subway platforms in the summer are incredibly (bleep) - as arguably is the city as a whole when you're outside. But like I said you aren't outside all that often in NYC (primarily when moving from building to building).
NYC is also not really that bad in the winter. Three accumulations of snow at the most I would say. Also doesn't get all that cold. Again these things are mitigated by the facts that 1) a car is far from necessary and 2) you aren't outside much _________________ one dog goes that way the other dog goes the other way
Joined: 24 Dec 2007 Posts: 35750 Location: Santa Clarita, CA (Hell) ->>>>>Ithaca, NY -≥≥≥≥≥Berkeley, CA
Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:13 pm Post subject:
I really wonder how many non-rich people actually enjoy living in NYC and how many just say they do.
Rent and cost of living are ridiculous. The weather is horrible. The city is dirty and stressful. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
NYC is the capital of the world, if the winter lasted less than a month, it would be the best place to live on earth (but you need $)
Have you waited for a subway there in the summer? It's also overly congested, buildings and infrastructure are old, and it really does smell like urine in half the city.
As bad and as old the subway is, it gets you everywhere in NYC. You truly don’t need a car (parking is ridiculously expensive too). But everything is there in a 12 x 3mile Manhattan with the other boroughs within half hr commute by subway. It’s a playground for adults
I really wonder how many non-rich people actually enjoy living in NYC and how many just say they do.
Rent and cost of living are ridiculous. The weather is horrible. The city is dirty and stressful.
I don't know, but I do agree and have NEVER been to New York (city or state) and have no plans or desires to ever visit... _________________ “Always remember... Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.”
Joined: 15 Sep 2012 Posts: 29150 Location: La La Land
Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:11 pm Post subject:
lakersken80 wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
I really wonder how many non-rich people actually enjoy living in NYC and how many just say they do.
Rent and cost of living are ridiculous. The weather is horrible. The city is dirty and stressful.
Well, NYC dates to the beginning of the 1600's and was built on top of swampland. What you call dirty some people call history.
And that's my disconnect. That's why I prefer LA. To me NYC is dirty. Dirty, old, cramped buildings, with rodent and pest infestations. When walking through the city you're avoiding rain or half melted snow turned sludgy black from the grime on the road. Not to mention the weather. Humid in the summer and cold as ice in the winter.
I don't understand how people like all those things.
1 thing I will give NYC credit for. Last call is 4 am. Not 2 am like it is here.
But if I want to be lit at all times of night (or day) I'll go to Vegas. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 8488 Location: The (real) short corner
Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:17 pm Post subject:
I was not a fan of NYC when I worked there for some short stints. But the residents seemed to enjoy it. I mean countless people there felt obligated to tell me unprompted that it was the best place in the world and about how they couldn't stand LA when they visited.
I really wonder how many non-rich people actually enjoy living in NYC and how many just say they do.
Rent and cost of living are ridiculous. The weather is horrible. The city is dirty and stressful.
Well, NYC dates to the beginning of the 1600's and was built on top of swampland. What you call dirty some people call history.
And that's my disconnect. That's why I prefer LA. To me NYC is dirty. Dirty, old, cramped buildings, with rodent and pest infestations. Rain or melted snow turned sludgy black from the grime on the road. Not to mention the weather. Humid in the summer and cold as ice in the winter.
I don't understand how people like all those things.
You can say the same comparing SF to LA. SF was more populated than LA during the 1800's, and theres a lot of the older Victorian buildings still standing. Some people find charm in those old buildings while others prefer to bulldoze them and start fresh.
I think your post speaks more to the class divide that's growing larger and larger in the US more than anything else. With most of the nations wealth concentrated on the west coast and NY areas.
I think the dislike of the hollywood stuff is overblown. the only reason to really dislike LA is sharp increase in the population here in the last 5 years and the clogged freeways that come with it.
I really wonder how many non-rich people actually enjoy living in NYC and how many just say they do.
Rent and cost of living are ridiculous. The weather is horrible. The city is dirty and stressful.
Well, NYC dates to the beginning of the 1600's and was built on top of swampland. What you call dirty some people call history.
And that's my disconnect. That's why I prefer LA. To me NYC is dirty. Dirty, old, cramped buildings, with rodent and pest infestations. When walking through the city you're avoiding rain or half melted snow turned sludgy black from the grime on the road. Not to mention the weather. Humid in the summer and cold as ice in the winter.
I don't understand how people like all those things.
1 thing I will give NYC credit for. Last call is 4 am. Not 2 am like it is here.
But if I want to be lit at all times of night (or day) I'll go to Vegas.
It's a whole different vibe. Everything is compressed together in Manhattan (even in other boroughs), some people hate it, most people love it... you can literally walk to everything you need and so many things are open late night (restaurants, bodega, night life). I love NYC, there is nothing like it in US, maybe Hongkong and Tokyo is close (where everything is so accessible) but everybody has their preference
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