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| activeverb wrote: | | CandyCanes wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | CandyCanes wrote: | | Isn't it sort of strange how Carmelo was once considered someone who would have a superstar career, but in retrospect his impact is not even close to that of someone like Paul Pierce? |
Carmelo has had a superstar career (10 all-star appearances; 15th best scoring average in NBA history). He hasn't had most post-season success. But to be fair, he really hasn't been on many good teams.
Paul Pierce is a superstar too. But he didn't really have much post season success until he teamed up with Garnett and Allen. If not for that luck, I'm not sure we'd be talking about how impactful he was.
They're both locks for first-ballot Hall of Famers. In ESPN's list of 100 best players of all time, Pierce came in 45 and Carmelo 59. I think Pierce is the better player, but they're not that far apart. |
You think Pierce was a legitimate superstar and franchise player?
How would you rank the following four: Pierce, McGrady, Wade, Carmelo? |
"Legtimate superstar" seems like a loaded phrase. Pierce was Boston's franchise player for at least a decade.
I'd rank them: Wade, Pierce, Carmelo, McGrady. |
Carmelo over McGrady?
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| USCandLakers wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | CandyCanes wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | CandyCanes wrote: | | Isn't it sort of strange how Carmelo was once considered someone who would have a superstar career, but in retrospect his impact is not even close to that of someone like Paul Pierce? |
Carmelo has had a superstar career (10 all-star appearances; 15th best scoring average in NBA history). He hasn't had most post-season success. But to be fair, he really hasn't been on many good teams.
Paul Pierce is a superstar too. But he didn't really have much post season success until he teamed up with Garnett and Allen. If not for that luck, I'm not sure we'd be talking about how impactful he was.
They're both locks for first-ballot Hall of Famers. In ESPN's list of 100 best players of all time, Pierce came in 45 and Carmelo 59. I think Pierce is the better player, but they're not that far apart. |
You think Pierce was a legitimate superstar and franchise player?
How would you rank the following four: Pierce, McGrady, Wade, Carmelo? |
"Legtimate superstar" seems like a loaded phrase. Pierce was Boston's franchise player for at least a decade.
I'd rank them: Wade, Pierce, Carmelo, McGrady. |
Carmelo over McGrady? |
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I'm rooting for this team to win it all this season, so I'm glad they're figuring it out. Anybody but Golden State is my motto.
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Chemistry. You have three players used to having the ball in their hands, offenses run through them. Who's going to check their ego at the locker room door and play their assigned position. PG13 SF, Carmelo PF, Westbrook PG. Each of these positions have assignments. All three players are trying to do to much. I think Mello is in a great position to play stretch 4. That would open the middle for George.
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If the Thunder keep losing I think PG13 will leave. Westbrook's 5 year extension has him stuck.
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They are losing defensively
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| jodeke wrote: | | If the Thunder keep losing I think PG13 will leave. Westbrook's 5 year extension has him stuck. |
Can't believe wb signed that extension I know it was a lot of money but to gamble his prime that PG13 re-signs? Maybe he asks for a trade after PG goes elsewhere |
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Westbrook is untradable
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