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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:24 pm    Post subject: WARRIORS -at- LAKERS – 12-18-17 - Thoughts and :-(( Ratings

8 and 24 – Basketball Immortality… Alongside the legends of West, Wilt, Wilkes, Worthy, Goodrich, Baylor, Kareem, Magic and Shaq who all bled and battled in Laker jerseys, we add Kobe to the Laker Mt. Rushmore in the rafters of Staples Center to live forever among the Laker immortals.

The game was almost a sideshow to the halftime jersey retirement for Kobe Bryant. The tribute to Kobe and his two decades of service in the purple and gold took place at halftime. They hung both No. 8 and No. 24 on either side of Chick Hearn’s microphone jersey.

Kobe took to the mic, himself, to discuss what it means. “It’s about embodying the spirit that exist in those jerseys up there and carrying this organization forward so that this next 20 years is better than the past 20 years,” Kobe said.

It would be hard to choose just one jersey over the other to retire. Would anyone really ever look right in either an 8 or 24 Laker jersey? Nope.

Asked if he had to choose one jersey for a statue, Kobe said he’d probably go with 24. The challenges were immense for No. 24, and he specifically mentioned playing with a broken finger and bone fragment against the Celtics to win a championship. He certainly had two careers worth of highlights, brilliance and championships, and the two jerseys might as well represent two different eras.

That brilliance can be retold in seemingly an infinite number of Kobe stories. Take your son or daughter to a game sometime, point up to the rafters and relive one of those. “Let me tell you about Kobe Bryant…” Maybe go with a story about No. 8 and another about No. 24.

With the tribute over, the Lakers took back to the court trailing by 4 at halftime against the defending champion Golden State Warriors. With Lopez injured, Kuzma slid into the starting line up in the second half. The two teams would battle back and forth.

The Lakers got nickeled and dimed by poor calls erasing baskets or trips to the line. When they did get to the line, they didn’t capitalize like they should have. Once again FTs becoming an issue as the Lakers missed 13 tonight. All those little things would catch up with them.

The Lakers still battled. A big three by KCP and a driving layup by Ingram had the game tied with 28 seconds left in regulation. No timeout by Luke this time after the stop. KCP pushed it out, pulled up and bricked the three at the buzzer. Overtime again against the Warriors, who didn’t have Curry or Green tonight.

They still had Kevin Durant, who would take over for a series of scores. Lonzo would answer back with scores of his own. The Lakers took a 1-point lead on a drive by Lonzo with 1:03 left. They went back and forth again, score tied and Durant hit a pull-up jumper to take the lead. We attacked on the inbounds and Lonzo was blocked on a layup from behind and that was the ball game. Lakers fell 116-114 in overtime to the Warriors.


Ball -- -- Strong overtime from Lonzo, hitting a couple of bigs hoops to dig us out of a hole and then setting up Randle for more points. He had a chance to tie the game up again on a full court drive at the buzzer, but was blocked from behind. At some point, he’ll learn to use his body better or go stronger on the finish. But can’t complain about how he played in OT. “DWest made a good play,” Lonzo said of the block. Somewhat quiet game early on. He sank a couple of threes in the first half, but also picked up three fouls. Love seeing the fight in him and imposing himself in crunch time. Young kids had a chance to take this one from the Warriors, but the Warriors have that vet superstar power that’s tough to deal with. “Good thing is we’re putting ourselves in a position to win, just got to win,” Lonzo said. He said he thinks it will come with time. The Stats: He scored 16 points on 6-12 shooting (3-6 from three, 1-2 from the line) to go with 6 boards, 6 assists, 1 steal, 2 blocks, 2 turnover and 4 fouls in 39 minutes. He was a +10. The Action: He lobbed to Larry for a reverse jam off the slip screen to start the Laker scoring. He was blocked on a layup. He took a wing pass, squared up and drained the three. Great recovery on the perimeter to block a jumper (and swat an inbounds pass a moment later). He was blocked on a layup with his right. He pushed out the break with speed and drew FTs, he made one. He got a nice bounce on a three to fall. Second Half: He banked in a catch-and-shoot FT jumper. He attacked and his kickout was stolen. He didn’t hit rim on a rushed three. He missed a three when the D went under the screen. He missed a sideline three on a kickout with 1:28 left that could have tied it. Overtime: He swished a big step-back three out of a timeout. He worked to his right off the high screen, pulled up and swished the wing midrange jumper to tie it up. He setup Randle for FTs on the screen-roll. He blew past his man with speed, attacked to his right and scored the layup. He attacked on an inbounds with 6 seconds left and was blocked from behind by West, ball game.

Lopez -- -- He came down with a jolt while challenging a Durant drive, rolling his right ankle and then helped into the locker room. I’d be surprised if that doesn’t sideline him for a bit. Of course, if he does miss time, where Luke goes with this will be interesting. For this game, he started Kuzma in the second half. Going forward, he’s got Randle as the obvious choice, then Bogut, then a couple youngsters in Zubac and Bryant. Finally, he could also consider starting Kuzma and sliding Nance over like he did tonight, but I’ve said before that’s not a great use of Nance. I suspect this is what we do. Lopez tonight also missed both of his FTs, both looked awful. Could have used those. The Stats: He scored 6 points on 3-5 shooting (0-2 from three, 0-2 from the line) to go with 1 board, 1 assist, 2 steals, 1 block, 1 turnover and 2 fouls in 11 minutes. He was a +6. The Action: He stepped back and bricked a three, but hustled in transition and intercepted the pass. He sank an elbow jumper. He attacked from the three line and hit the runner in the paint. Great job on a missed FT to keep it alive, gather it and power it back in. Illegal screen in transition, turnover. He couldn’t hold on to a high outlet. He missed a three in early offense. He blocked his man without leaving the ground in the post. He swung through on Durant and scored, but they took the basket away for the swing through and gave him FTs, he missed both badly. Second Half: He did not play in the second half.

Ingram -- -- Some ball stopping sequences in this one and he ate basketball on more than a few drives. At one point in the second half, he was swatted on three straight attacks, going down hard on the last one. Sometimes that’s the only way you learn lessons. He started to mix it up a little more after that with some pull-ups. But man, not pretty. Still his aggression never went away. He took the team to OT with a drive for a layup with 28 seconds left. Man, though, if you are going to get to the foul line 12 times with that impressive relentlessness, you’ve got to make more than 7. Just one more would have made a difference tonight. Defensively, it seemed pretty hit and miss. Some good challenges, but also some times we switched to easy or also ball watched. The Stats: He scored 19 points on 6-12 shooting (7-12 from the line) to go with 6 boards, 5 assists, 2 steals, 2 blocks, 1 turnover and 5 fouls in 39 minutes. He was a +11. The Action: He lulled the D to sleep, attacked left and scored the lefty layup. Good challenge on Durant’s turnaround to force a miss on iso. He attacked the paint and took/delivered contact and earned FTs, he missed both. He scooped up a loose ball, attacked in transition and had his layup goaltended. He drew a second defender and found KCP under the hoop for a score. He curled around a Randle screen, took the lob and scored. He iso’d and forced up and missed a pull-up jumper. He attacked a switch, getting into the defender’s chest and earning FTs, he made one. He attacked in transition and faded away from the basket for a tough bank miss attempt. He attacked, spun into traffic and lost the ball. Second Half: He got past McGee but was blocked by Durant on the drive. He attacked again a few seconds later on the same possession and was swatted again on a drive. He attacked again and was rejected badly on a throwdown attempt, this time going down hard with no call. Back in, he attacked with speed, drew contact and this time got a call, he made one FT. He bumped his man off on the drive, stopped and hit the 12-footer in the lane. Relentless attacking in transition and he drew more FTs, he made just one again. He attacked and hit the pull-up elbow jumper. He was fouled on the perimeter for FTs, he made both this time. He froze the D with a hesitation, then whipped a one-handed pass to Randle in the paint for FTs. He attacked and drew more FTs, he made both. He iso’d and missed the 18-footer. Not to be deterred, he sized up his man from the wing, attacked right and scored the layup to tie it up with 28 seconds left. Overtime: He attacked and kicked to Kuzma for the three. He got caught flat-footed on a cut out of a timeout and had to foul Durant to prevent the dunk.

Caldwell-Pope -- -- He had a chance to win this game on the pushout in transition at the end of regulation but came up empty on the pull-up three. Too bad. Not an efficient game from him as he shot just 4-17 (he did make all four of his FTs). Just too many wild, off-balance shots. Got to work on that shot selection more. He did sink a big three prior to that miss to help the Lakers erase a late 5-point Warrior lead. He got jobbed the refs on a non-call in transition on a layup attempt (the Warriors would score the other way). The Stats: He scored 14 points on 4-17 shooting (2-8 from three, 4-4 from the line) to go with 8 boards, 1 assist, 2 steals, 2 blocks, 1 turnover and 2 fouls in 41 minutes. He was a +1. The Action: He stepped on the sideline on a set play and turned it over. He missed a wing three, but hustled back in transition and deflected the pass to get a stop. He reversed when Ingram found him camping under the hoop. He missed midrange jumper. He blocked a shot in transition, hustling back. He iso’d and airballed a three. Wild hanging jumper in transition, not a good look. Wild finish again as he gathered a pass, took contact and scored an And-1 layup on the break, he made the FT. He took a kickout from Nance and hit a three in transition. He missed a wild floater, but he deflected a pass hustling back in transition, led the break and hit Nance for the massive dunk. Second Half: He missed a wide open sideline three. He missed a short runner in transition. He was fouled on a rushed corner three up against the shotclock, he made all three FTs. He attacked in transition, drew all kinds of contact and no call on the break, pretty obvious foul (three the other way in transition). He was blocked on a three set up out of a timeout. He drained a tough leaning three on the catch and shoot at the top of the key. He pushed it up with 5 seconds left and bricked the pull-up three at the buzzer to go to overtime. Overtime: He missed a pull-up sideline jumper. He stepped in to take a charge on a drive by Ball. He missed a big wing three.

Nance -- -- He had Staples buzzing at the end of the first half with one of those posterizing dunks of his over Durant on the break. You’ll see that one all year. Luke used that as an example after the game on not needing to make the spectacular pass on the break. KCP just hit Nance with a simple bounce pass after pulling up and that’s all Nance needed. We are definitely trying to throw a lot more lobs to Nance this year (he started the game with one), but the Lakers really need to clean up that execution on the break. In the second half, Nance slid into the starting center spot with Lopez’s injury. We went with Randle to close things out. The big concern with that is when we run Randle in this really long stints to close games versus if he were starting, he’s have a nice rest between stints. The Stats: He scored 8 points on 2-4 shooting (4-6 from the line) to go with 4 boards, 1 assist, 1 steal and 1 foul in 21 minutes. He was a +14. The Action: He threw down a reverse lob on the first play from Lonzo. He drew FTs in transition and made one. He was blocked from behind on a dunk attempt. He was wrapped up under the hoop for FTs on a post entry pass, he made both. Great save on a wild lob in transition, he threw it back in bounds across court right to KCP for a three. Undercut on a lob and he drew FTs, he made one. He posterized Durant in transition, one of the dunks of the year and he filled the lane on the break. Second Half: He set a screen, took the pass and missed the jumper from the top of the key. He swiped the ball and pushed out the break.

Kuzma -- -- He got the start in the second half for Lopez as we slid Nance to center. Kuzma sparked the offense in the third quarter with multiple scores as well as some nice passing. Every time he missed, he’d follow that up with a dish to a teammate for a score. He had the D scrambling and forced a timeout to deal with his well-rounded attack. I thought his three ball looked superb tonight. It looked like he was shooting FTs. You could tell they were going in when they left his hands. In OT, he sank a sideline three on a kickout. Both of our rookies throwing punches in OT (would have like to see us set him up for another shot or two in OT). The Stats: He scored 25 points on 10-16 shooting (4-6 from three, 1-1 from the line) to go with 6 boards, 3 assists, 1 block, 2 turnovers and 3 fouls in 40 minutes. He was a -17. The Action: He missed a three in early offense. He missed a step-through jumper. He filled the lane, ducked the D and scored rode the ball in for the layup. He attacked right and hit the running hook from about 8 feet out (just about impossible to defend that unless you can get a hand in when it starts to pull it up). He sank a corner three on an inbounds out of a timeout. He missed a pull-up 12-footer. Wild pass trying to thread the needle across the lane, turnover. Second Half: He let Durant fly by, measured the three and drained it easily. He attacked, lost his man on a Euro step that had the crowd roaring and hit the floater. He sank a tech FT. He missed a hook across the lane. He missed a sideline three. He scored a putback on the Lonzo bricked three. He attacked and kicked to Hart for the three. He posted up, drop-stepped, stepped through and scored the one-hander (Kobe nodding on that one). Another extra pass as he attacked off the dribble and hit Hart for the FT jumper. He drained a three as we ran clock and found him. He waved off the screen, had his man backing up and hit the long jumper with his feet on the three line. He missed a jumper from the top of the key, good look as he faked the drive. Overtime: He drained a sideline three on a kickout from Ingram.

Randle -- -- Double-double for Randle. Offensively, it was a bit choppy. He did have a massive dunk on the break over Durant early in this game. That would have been the one we’d be playing over and over if not for Nance giving KD the business with his breakaway dunk. After the game, he missed two FTs in overtime and mentioned our FTs as something we could control as one of the reasons they lost. Again, love seeing the Randle, Kuzma, Ingram, Ball unit out there. That should be our core. They battle. The Stats: He scored 15 points on 5-11 shooting (5-8 from the line) to go with 11 boards, 2 assists, 1 block, 2 turnovers and 2 fouls in 31 minutes. He was a -12. The Action: He got out with speed and Brewer hit him in stride for a power jam over KD down the middle of the lane. He was tied up trying to iso and we couldn’t secure the jumpball. He attacked the paint, spun and scored the layup. He didn’t hit rim on a jumphook. He crashed the glass, grabbed the miss and powered up the layup. He missed an open wing jumper. He stuck his butt out to screen a man then lobbed to Ingram for the score. He missed a jumphook wanting the foul. Second Half: He shed his man with an elbow nudge and reversed. He finished the lob layup from JC on the screen-roll. He was blocked trying to power up in the middle of the paint. He was stripped in the paint after pulling down an offensive board. He rejected West on the finish attempt at the rim. Drive and dish from Ingram to set him up for FTs, he made one. He attacked Durant on the catch and drew FTs across the lane, he made both. He missed a reverse on the break, would have been a sensational play, but probably should have gathered himself. Overtime: He was called for an offensive foul on the jumpball, lame. He attacked, double clutched and missed the layup. He drew FTs on the screen-roll with Lonzo, he made just one. He attacked on the inbounds pass and drew FTs with 28 seconds left down 1, he made just one, however.

Clarkson -- -- Not much from Clarkson in this game, but he should have had 6 points instead of 4. The refs erased a putback score of his in regulation, saying his first attempt didn’t hit the rim. Poor call and you knew that was going to come back to haunt them. JC was a little too iso oriented to start this game and struggled to get into rhythm as a result. The Stats: He scored 4 points on 2-7 shooting (0-1 from three) to go with 3 assists, 2 turnovers and 1 foul in 19 minutes. He was a -13. The Action: He picked up his dribble and threw it away. He iso’d and bricked the pull-up jumper. He attacked the paint, no one stopped ball and he threw down the two-for-one dunk. He airballed a pull-up jumper. Second Half: He probed and lobbed to Julius for the score. He had the D backing up off the two-man game and hit the floater. He attacked and couldn’t finish a layup. He missed a three on the break. He bricked a pull-up three on iso. He attacked, had a pass deflected, got it back, missed the layup, got it back and scored and they erased the basket saying he didn’t hit rim, uggh.

Brewer -- -- I don’t think the -10 was really his fault. The team was really iso-oriented when he was out there and the offense stalled. Luke didn’t bring him back in the second half, instead opting to go with the rookie to defend Durant when Ingram had to leave the game. The Stats: He didn’t score on 0-3 shooting (0-1 from three) to go with 1 board, 1 assist, 1 steal, 1 turnover and 2 fouls in 6 minutes. He was a -10. The Action: He hit Randle filling the middle lane for the slam over KD. He missed a corner three. He threw an outlet away, erasing a breakaway score. He stole the ball in the backcourt and threw it to the rim trying to unsuccessfully beat the buzzer. He missed a floater. Second Half: He did not play in the second half.

Hart -- -- Luke threw him up against Durant defensively in the third quarter when Ingram left the game. I guess that’s a pretty good sign of respect from Luke, but a tough ask for an undersized rookie to deal with. He managed it well enough, but some sketchy minutes for sure. During that stretch, Hart knocked down a three and hit a pull-up at the FT line for scores. Again, 98 minutes combined for our three rookies tonight. The Stats: He scored 7 points on 3-5 shooting (1-1 from the line) to go with 2 boards and 4 fouls in 19 minutes. He was a +0. The Action: He attacked the paint, missed the layup, but tipped it back in. He missed a pull-up wing jumper. Nice job muscling West on iso D to get a stop. Second Half: He drained a three on a kickout straight away. He hit a pull-up jumper at the FT line. He ballwatched and gave up a layup.

Walton -- -- Up 6, he brought in Kuzma and Randle for Lopez and Nance midway through the quarter… Ingram picked up his second foul with 4:44 left and had to sit for Brewer. Lakers up 4… JC in for Lonzo up 4… Warriors getting to the line again and again, then hitting a flurry of threes late in the first quarter... Lakers offense iso’ing too much to close the quarter… The Lakers trailed 32-24 after the first… He started a Randle, Kuzma, Brewer, Hart, JC lineup… Ingram in for Brewer down 6… Timeout to bring in Lopez and Lonzo to go with JC, Ingram and and Kuzma down 5. They set up a corner three for Kuzma on the inbounds… That unit struggled to get stops and the lead ballooned to 9. Luke called another timeout… Too many missed FTs by the Lakers… Lonzo picked up his third foul in the first half with 1:03 left and had to sit for JC… The Lakers trailed 57-53 at the half… Lakers took the lead behind Kuzma starting for Lopez… Ingram out with the shotblocking, Hart in. Odd choice… JC in for Lonzo, down 1… The Lakers trailed 83-82 at the half… He started the Randle, Kuzma, Ingram, Hart, JC lineup… Kuzma out for Ball after a couple minutes. Lakers going small with Ingram at PF… A 93-92 game with 5:42 left when Kuzma returned to go with Randle, Ingram, KCP and Ball… The Lakers with a stop with 5 seconds left. No timeout by Luke this time and they bricked the three in transition. Overtime… They gave up the first couple of scores and Luke called a timeout down 5… Lonzo brought them back with a few scores to take the lead… Down 1, Ingram lost a shoe, but the refs wouldn’t wait off a deadball of ours for him to put it on, so Luke took a timeout with 32.6 left and 19 on the shotclock. Out of that Randle with a quick attack for FTs with 28 left, good two-for-one… They had Ball switch onto Durant and we gave up a jumper on the other end. Ball pushed out and was blocked at the rim on a drive. Ball game…
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:30 pm    Post subject:

Thanks, DB. Hopefully we don't retire your jersey any time soon.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:39 pm    Post subject:

We really need a closer.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:44 pm    Post subject:

Thanks DB.
We need a bit of a pecking order that makes sense and I honestly cant wait until KCP is gone. He was 4-17 and he has a green light to fire away as many as he likes and he is often very ineffective, all while Clarkson is buried to the bench and Kuzma gets to take 16 shots on a night where he's really feeling it.

Tonight was the kind of night Kuzma should've took about 25 shots as he was making everything but he still doesnt seem to have licence to shoot so much while KCP does. All I'm saying is, Kuzma should be acknowledged as more than a role player and I really wish Lakers would run same kind of plays for him that GS runs for Klay.
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Lopez -- -- He came down with a jolt while challenging a Durant drive, rolling his right ankle and then helped into the locker room. I’d be surprised if that doesn’t sideline him for a bit. Of course, if he does miss time, where Luke goes with this will be interesting. For this game, he started Kuzma in the second half. Going forward, he’s got Randle as the obvious choice, then Bogut, then a couple youngsters in Zubac and Bryant. Finally, he could also consider starting Kuzma and sliding Nance over like he did tonight, but I’ve said before that’s not a great use of Nance. I suspect this is what we do. Lopez tonight also missed both of his FTs, both looked awful. Could have used those.


I thought Nance could be a 4/5. Guess I was wrong. However, Randle as a 5 is a pleasant surprise. I didn't see that potential.

Luke likes Nance. I doubt he is moved to the bench. Nance+Randle did not work well together on the court though. Maybe they will start, but I think Randle+Kuzma will finish.

In the long run, I doubt we can afford keeping all three of them. Have to address other needs, such as a shooter.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:20 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB! Had to miss the game, saw it just as it was ending. Close one. Very thankful to read through your recaps to get a feel for what transpired during what looks like it was a heck of a contest.

Lonzo Ball - very encouraging to see he started carrying the scoring load in OT. If he was deadly from college, he can be deadly again. This reminds me of last year, when Brandon Ingram was having so many 0 for x and 1 for x games shooting, but as the year progressed he started breaking out now and then. Fast forward to this year and Brandon's scoring is legit. Lonzo - I can see the same progression, lots of 1 for x games, but starting to sprinkle in a few decent scoring games now and then. He's got the rest of the stat sheet filled nicely and he knows how to push the pace, when the scoring comes around he's gonna be special.

Randle and Kuzma, I'm now starting to hope to see them both stick around for years to come. Kuzma's gonna be spectacular if he keeps progressing. Randle is the player I'd hoped he'd be in his third year on the court.

Interesting to see how Hart progresses as well. Light playing time, but his shooting is there and his defense is stout. Really like his game.

Close but no cigar. Still, taking the Warriors to OT means the Lakers came to play.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:24 am    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:53 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB. Loved seeing Kobe and the kids almost pulled this one out.

Definitely more entertaining to watch than some of the other recent teams, good at times but not great (guess we have been spoiled here in LA). And what's with the bad free throw shooting? That's irritating.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:52 am    Post subject:

Looks like we may get to see Zubac in the coming days.

Bogut is done and Nance can't play center.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:53 am    Post subject:

Randle: - Did you guise see me posterizing Durant?

Nance: - Hold my beer...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:33 am    Post subject:

Thanks, DB!
Another close one. Those kids will soon learn how to close games.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:37 am    Post subject:

Man watching that at halftime was something.
Still so many emotions and nostalgia with that.
It's like greatness ended with Kobe. I know it didn't, I know the Lakers could be great again, but with watching Shaq, Kobe, other greats there and then watching the team we have had and has been in the city the last few years, you can't help but think of the huge hole of having a franchise player/HOF guy.

The game was close, we should have won this one. Nice to see Ball continue to play well. He seems to be rising up in the bigger games now. I like that.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:54 am    Post subject:

Officiating was BAD again. GSW got away with so many non called fouls against the Lakers.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:05 am    Post subject:

First, Thanks DB for a great write up as usual. You are awesome!

Sorry to piss and moan but I gotta get this off of my chest. We keep playing teams with multiple men down while we are at full strength (pretty much) and are still losing. Denver down three players and we lose. Dubs down four players and we still lose. Knicks down their top scorer (Hardaway Jr) and we still lose. These are the games we have to take advantage of and the Lakers are not doing it. If the Dubs were at full strength and we took them to OT and lost I would be ecstatic. Hey we did not win but look what we did against a full strength champion. A little bit more experience and we will take them out next time. Losing in OT to another undermanned squad is not just sad it is embarrassing.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:31 am    Post subject:

I was expecting this review to be done in espanol and italiano tambien
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:52 am    Post subject:

I’m all for versatility, positionless basketball and switching on defense but at certain times you have to counter what the opponent is trying to do and deny. Luke just seems content switching on every possession and it cost them last night.

Switching on every defensive possession doesn’t inspire confidence in the coaching staff tbh.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:58 am    Post subject:

I was at the game. Scored tickets in the suite for my son's 13th birthday. He was thrilled.

My observations:

Seeing all the hall of fame players was a thrill for me and my family.
Kobe jersey retirement was amazing!!

Ball + Ingram + Kuzma = great young stars
Ball is composed and never frazzled - hit some big shots
Ingram was cool but needs to pass in traffic - he ate the ball a few times.
Kuzma - wow..steal of the draft. He's easily top 3 or 4 rookies playing right now.

And now negative observations:

KCP + Clarkson + Randle = ISO ball
I thought all 3 stunk a bit
Despite Randles double double, he sucked and was a big reason we lost the game. Missed free throws, fumbling passes, playing ISO ball in traffic...yuck!!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:16 am    Post subject:

Eindhoven wrote:
Randle: - Did you guise see me posterizing Durant?

Nance: - Hold my beer...


Exacly -- after Nance cleared his throat he initiated the launch sequence & followed up with an absolute monster crush of a dunk over the out stretched Durant. It was brutal and worth about 7 points.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:27 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB! Didn't catch the game until the 3rd quarter had started. It's times like this when you really appreciate and know that LG has your back. I knew I would be able to catch all the first half and halftime "KOBE" highlights from CaCHooKa_Man and get all the detailed analysis right here.

It certainly applies to a streaky KCP but this "dizzy" emoji kind of embodies each player, Luke and the entire team this year. You can see great plays and great potential from most of the players but you can also see inconsistency, missed free throws, and sloppy play. The defense needs more nuance and the offense needs less ISO.

Having said that, the games have been competitive and hard fought. You can tell that they are putting in the work. It just takes time to be consistently great. Maybe it's like Kobe said about the journey being the thing. Keep up the hard work and great things will happen.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:58 am    Post subject:

I absolutely loved seeing Lonzo hit that pull-up going right. He shot a traditional right-handed jumper, which had me doing a double-take.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:38 am    Post subject:

Eindhoven wrote:
Randle: - Did you guise see me posterizing Durant?

Nance: - Hold my beer...


lol. Pretty much.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:47 am    Post subject:

LakerSD wrote:


Switching on every defensive possession doesn’t inspire confidence in the coaching staff tbh.


I think our D is definitely better because we can do it. We just can't be so predictable that we try to do it every time. Smart teams just work the switch to the matchup they want and proceed to take us out.

Warriors are tough, however, because they know all their counters if you don't switch.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:51 am    Post subject:

RCS926 wrote:
I absolutely loved seeing Lonzo hit that pull-up going right. He shot a traditional right-handed jumper, which had me doing a double-take.


Yeah, that looked like money. Just put in the reps and hopefully we see that more and more so he can mix things up and not let the D get away with so much against him.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:52 am    Post subject:

The Warriors did an immediate switch but then would rotate to their man. We caught them on one rotation and got a baseline bucket.
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