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Steve007 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:55 pm Post subject: James Harden Says He's Tired of 'Bulls--t Calls' from Refs |
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Huey Lewis & The News Star Player
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Omar Little Moderator
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Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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In a related story, Bill Gates is tired of being poor. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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rwongega Franchise Player
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Fracture Star Player
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:06 am Post subject: |
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Shoots almost 20fts then complains he's not getting enough? Holy (bleep) what a clown |
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Dreamshake Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:28 am Post subject: |
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He had a legit beef at the end of that game, which is what he was complaining about. A Clipper defender fouled him and shoulda fouled out, but they called the foul on the wrong person and didn't review. Then in two critical possessions the defender clearly flopped on offensive calls in non shooting situations (even the announcers noted it). So he wasn't complaining about FT's. He was complaining about clear errors. |
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kwase Star Player
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:28 am Post subject: |
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Fine him |
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Wino Star Player
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:46 am Post subject: |
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Dreamshake wrote: | He had a legit beef at the end of that game, which is what he was complaining about. A Clipper defender fouled him and shoulda fouled out, but they called the foul on the wrong person and didn't review. Then in two critical possessions the defender clearly flopped on offensive calls in non shooting situations (even the announcers noted it). So he wasn't complaining about FT's. He was complaining about clear errors. |
I agree, and the rest of these responses are just typical Laker fanboy responses, hate everyone who isn't a Laker. No respect! _________________ Never argue with stupid people! They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience!! - Twain |
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TDRock Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:54 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | James Harden Says He's Tired of 'Bulls--t Calls' from Refs |
Is that right, James Harden?
So are we all, my friend. So are we all... |
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TDRock Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Wino wrote: | Dreamshake wrote: | He had a legit beef at the end of that game, which is what he was complaining about. A Clipper defender fouled him and shoulda fouled out, but they called the foul on the wrong person and didn't review. Then in two critical possessions the defender clearly flopped on offensive calls in non shooting situations (even the announcers noted it). So he wasn't complaining about FT's. He was complaining about clear errors. |
I agree, and the rest of these responses are just typical Laker fanboy responses, hate everyone who isn't a Laker. No respect! |
I'm not responding to that specific play, I didn't see it.
I - like a lot of folks - think Harden draws a lot of questionable calls in his favor, thusly he probably shouldn't be complaining about the refs lol |
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OCWA Star Player
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Time to start fining people for offensive flops. |
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Cutheon Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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You don't say... |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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TDRock wrote: | Wino wrote: | Dreamshake wrote: | He had a legit beef at the end of that game, which is what he was complaining about. A Clipper defender fouled him and shoulda fouled out, but they called the foul on the wrong person and didn't review. Then in two critical possessions the defender clearly flopped on offensive calls in non shooting situations (even the announcers noted it). So he wasn't complaining about FT's. He was complaining about clear errors. |
I agree, and the rest of these responses are just typical Laker fanboy responses, hate everyone who isn't a Laker. No respect! |
I'm not responding to that specific play, I didn't see it.
I - like a lot of folks - think Harden draws a lot of questionable calls in his favor, thusly he probably shouldn't be complaining about the refs lol |
From a Laker fan perspective. Fans who also claimed that Kobe didn’t get calls while fans of 29 other teams thought that the refs favored him. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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USCandLakers Franchise Player
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Those fans were wrong and we were right. Same as this situation. And everyone situation until the end of time. _________________ A banana is killed every time a terrible thread or post is made. Save the bananas. Stop creating terrible posts! |
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TDRock Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | TDRock wrote: | Wino wrote: | Dreamshake wrote: | He had a legit beef at the end of that game, which is what he was complaining about. A Clipper defender fouled him and shoulda fouled out, but they called the foul on the wrong person and didn't review. Then in two critical possessions the defender clearly flopped on offensive calls in non shooting situations (even the announcers noted it). So he wasn't complaining about FT's. He was complaining about clear errors. |
I agree, and the rest of these responses are just typical Laker fanboy responses, hate everyone who isn't a Laker. No respect! |
I'm not responding to that specific play, I didn't see it.
I - like a lot of folks - think Harden draws a lot of questionable calls in his favor, thusly he probably shouldn't be complaining about the refs lol |
From a Laker fan perspective. Fans who also claimed that Kobe didn’t get calls while fans of 29 other teams thought that the refs favored him. |
Actually I've seen fans of a lot of other teams make the same claim about Mr. Harden. Houston fans generally do not |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | TDRock wrote: | Wino wrote: | Dreamshake wrote: | He had a legit beef at the end of that game, which is what he was complaining about. A Clipper defender fouled him and shoulda fouled out, but they called the foul on the wrong person and didn't review. Then in two critical possessions the defender clearly flopped on offensive calls in non shooting situations (even the announcers noted it). So he wasn't complaining about FT's. He was complaining about clear errors. |
I agree, and the rest of these responses are just typical Laker fanboy responses, hate everyone who isn't a Laker. No respect! |
I'm not responding to that specific play, I didn't see it.
I - like a lot of folks - think Harden draws a lot of questionable calls in his favor, thusly he probably shouldn't be complaining about the refs lol |
From a Laker fan perspective. Fans who also claimed that Kobe didn’t get calls while fans of 29 other teams thought that the refs favored him. |
Not even remotely close. As usual. I'm sure you frequent other teams boards, the hate for Harden is proportional to his foul baiting (/s, clearly you don't).
Kobe: 11,719 FG's made, 8,378 FT's made
Jordan: 12,192 FGs made, 7,327 FT's made
Harden: 4293 FG's made, 4,481 Ft's made
Foh with that trash.
Oh and look at this gem:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/james-harden-gets-fouled-on-3s-more-than-any-nba-team/
That scumbag's game is indefensible. _________________ KOBE |
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Cutheon Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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jonnybravo wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | TDRock wrote: | Wino wrote: | Dreamshake wrote: | He had a legit beef at the end of that game, which is what he was complaining about. A Clipper defender fouled him and shoulda fouled out, but they called the foul on the wrong person and didn't review. Then in two critical possessions the defender clearly flopped on offensive calls in non shooting situations (even the announcers noted it). So he wasn't complaining about FT's. He was complaining about clear errors. |
I agree, and the rest of these responses are just typical Laker fanboy responses, hate everyone who isn't a Laker. No respect! |
I'm not responding to that specific play, I didn't see it.
I - like a lot of folks - think Harden draws a lot of questionable calls in his favor, thusly he probably shouldn't be complaining about the refs lol |
From a Laker fan perspective. Fans who also claimed that Kobe didn’t get calls while fans of 29 other teams thought that the refs favored him. |
Not even remotely close. As usual. I'm sure you frequent other teams boards, the hate for Harden is proportional to his foul baiting (/s, clearly you don't).
Kobe: 11,719 FG's made, 8,378 FT's made
Jordan: 12,192 FGs made, 7,327 FT's made
Harden: 4293 FG's made, 4,481 Ft's made
Foh with that trash.
Oh and look at this gem:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/james-harden-gets-fouled-on-3s-more-than-any-nba-team/
That scumbag's game is indefensible. |
So, here's where I differ from you: what is indefensible is the ref who blows that whistle---for Kobe, it was indefensible that a ref would refuse to blow their whistle. I'm not going to hate the player for playing their game; just the ref that allows it.
Look at that first video in the 538 link. Yeah, Harden initiated the majority of that contact and it was a pretty ridiculous "shot" to take, but it's on the ref to swallow that whistle. FWIW, I think they do in the playoffs, which is why he has some serious clunkers (he also get's extra home cooking, hence some of his more spectacular stat lines).
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rwongega Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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Dreamshake wrote: | He had a legit beef at the end of that game, which is what he was complaining about. A Clipper defender fouled him and shoulda fouled out, but they called the foul on the wrong person and didn't review. Then in two critical possessions the defender clearly flopped on offensive calls in non shooting situations (even the announcers noted it). So he wasn't complaining about FT's. He was complaining about clear errors. |
He was complaining about the kind of calls he normally gets. _________________ http://media.giphy.com/media/zNyBPu5hEFpu/giphy.gif
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RIP Jonathan Tang
RIP Alex Gruenberg
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Cutheon wrote: | jonnybravo wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | TDRock wrote: | Wino wrote: | Dreamshake wrote: | He had a legit beef at the end of that game, which is what he was complaining about. A Clipper defender fouled him and shoulda fouled out, but they called the foul on the wrong person and didn't review. Then in two critical possessions the defender clearly flopped on offensive calls in non shooting situations (even the announcers noted it). So he wasn't complaining about FT's. He was complaining about clear errors. |
I agree, and the rest of these responses are just typical Laker fanboy responses, hate everyone who isn't a Laker. No respect! |
I'm not responding to that specific play, I didn't see it.
I - like a lot of folks - think Harden draws a lot of questionable calls in his favor, thusly he probably shouldn't be complaining about the refs lol |
From a Laker fan perspective. Fans who also claimed that Kobe didn’t get calls while fans of 29 other teams thought that the refs favored him. |
Not even remotely close. As usual. I'm sure you frequent other teams boards, the hate for Harden is proportional to his foul baiting (/s, clearly you don't).
Kobe: 11,719 FG's made, 8,378 FT's made
Jordan: 12,192 FGs made, 7,327 FT's made
Harden: 4293 FG's made, 4,481 Ft's made
Foh with that trash.
Oh and look at this gem:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/james-harden-gets-fouled-on-3s-more-than-any-nba-team/
That scumbag's game is indefensible. |
So, here's where I differ from you: what is indefensible is the ref who blows that whistle---for Kobe, it was indefensible that a ref would refuse to blow their whistle. I'm not going to hate the player for playing their game; just the ref that allows it.
Look at that first video in the 538 link. Yeah, Harden initiated the majority of that contact and it was a pretty ridiculous "shot" to take, but it's on the ref to swallow that whistle. FWIW, I think they do in the playoffs, which is why he has some serious clunkers (he also get's extra home cooking, hence some of his more spectacular stat lines). |
Fair take and I'd agree with it. It's truly head scratching to me that the refs would continue to allow him to bamboozle them like this. It's almost a running joke among NBA fans and has pretty much reached meme status. _________________ KOBE |
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rwongega wrote: | Dreamshake wrote: | He had a legit beef at the end of that game, which is what he was complaining about. A Clipper defender fouled him and shoulda fouled out, but they called the foul on the wrong person and didn't review. Then in two critical possessions the defender clearly flopped on offensive calls in non shooting situations (even the announcers noted it). So he wasn't complaining about FT's. He was complaining about clear errors. |
He was complaining about the kind of calls he normally gets. |
No he wasn't. He normally doesn't get foul calls while someone passes him the ball under the other teams basket, or while dribbling without shooting. As far as the refs giving a foul call to the wrong player, that may be something routine, for star players that is. |
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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this guy....
ref's blow the whistle so much for him, I am surprised it has not triggered an asthma attack for one of them. One of the biggest floppers in the NBA. |
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Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:45 am Post subject: |
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Dreamshake wrote: | rwongega wrote: | Dreamshake wrote: | He had a legit beef at the end of that game, which is what he was complaining about. A Clipper defender fouled him and shoulda fouled out, but they called the foul on the wrong person and didn't review. Then in two critical possessions the defender clearly flopped on offensive calls in non shooting situations (even the announcers noted it). So he wasn't complaining about FT's. He was complaining about clear errors. |
He was complaining about the kind of calls he normally gets. |
No he wasn't. He normally doesn't get foul calls while someone passes him the ball under the other teams basket, or while dribbling without shooting. As far as the refs giving a foul call to the wrong player, that may be something routine, for star players that is. |
You don't like those grotesque initiated flop fouls that he gets, do you? You wish he'd stop doing that entirely because it demeans him, the sport, and fans like you who are forced to defend him for being a more disgusting version of Reggie Miller. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL
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He is a human bobble head. He steps across his defender and jerks his head is an obvious acting job, and he continues to get the whistle blown for it. He has been doing it since the OKC days. I can't stand watching him play. |
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