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Who would you vote for to serve a 3rd term
Barack Obama
54%
 54%  [ 28 ]
George W Bush
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Bill Clinton
17%
 17%  [ 9 ]
Ronald Reagan
9%
 9%  [ 5 ]
Dwight D Eisenhower
3%
 3%  [ 2 ]
Harry S Truman
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
John F Kennedy
3%
 3%  [ 2 ]
OTHER (explain)
9%
 9%  [ 5 ]
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:21 am    Post subject: If Presidents could serve more than two terms

Since FDR there have been 6 two term Presidents. Given the opportunity, who would you vote to serve a third term? I add John F Kennedy though he didn't serve two terms because he was assassinated.

Barack Obama
George W Bush
Bill Clinton
Ronald Reagan
Dwight D Eisenhower
Harry S Truman
John F Kennedy
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:34 am    Post subject:

I'd say Obama for sure. Ike was good and deserving, but if he had a third term, there would be no JFK. Though I could see JFK being worthy of a third term, had he the chance, I'd be satisfied with two terms for himself, followed by two of his brother. Clinton may not have been worthy but then with a third term with him, maybe we have no 9/11, but almost certainly no Iraq war and all that this unleashed.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:47 am    Post subject:

ribeye wrote:
I'd say Obama for sure. Ike was good and deserving, but if he had a third term, there would be no JFK. Though I could see JFK being worthy of a third term, had he the chance, I'd be satisfied with two terms for himself, followed by two of his brother. Clinton may not have been worthy but then with a third term with him, maybe we have no 9/11, but almost certainly no Iraq war and all that this unleashed.


hmm my first instinct was Clinton....chose Obama

but i didn't think about how diff the rxn would be with Clinton....i've pondered how it would have been with Gore but not clinton

i was also thinking what more time with Kennedy would have meant. but now every movie i see has Kennedy on the floor writhing in pain injected with drugs etc. i wish their was way more transparency from the executive branch....like literally posting their (bleep) up for ppl to see blood pressure cholesterol etc psych eval might be too far lol although i never thought we'd elect someone like Trump

how in the world can there be such a disconnect.....like when i see Obama or Clinton i see the best of what America has to offer. not born with inherited wealth, single moms raising them, incredibly smart with good educations.

how the frak can people see Trump and be like yeah thats the best. physically, mentallly, spiritually, emotionally, in any regard
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:08 pm    Post subject:

I voted Other. I pick Grover Cleveland. The jokes about Cleveland going to the White House would be worth it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:13 pm    Post subject:

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I voted Other. I pick Grover Cleveland. The jokes about Cleveland going to the White House would be worth it.

There ya go AH, dating yo self.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:39 pm    Post subject:

I'd have LBJ serve a second term. If that doesn't count, Eisenhower.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:45 pm    Post subject:

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I'd have LBJ serve a second term. If that doesn't count, Eisenhower.

LBJ didn't want to do 2. Why Eisenhower?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:38 pm    Post subject:

jodeke wrote:
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I'd have LBJ serve a second term. If that doesn't count, Eisenhower.

LBJ didn't want to do 2. Why Eisenhower?

LBJ was planning to announce his candidacy, but didn't at the last minute because he thought Humphrey would win. Oops.

For Eisenhower, he's far from perfect, but to name a few achievements: ending the Korean War, continuation of New Deal programs and expanding Social Security, the Interstate Highway System, the creation of NASA, desegregation of the armed forces, the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1960, enforcement of Brown v. Board of Education that integrated public schools, and the nominations of William Brennan and Earl Warren to the Supreme Court.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:27 pm    Post subject:

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I'd have LBJ serve a second term. If that doesn't count, Eisenhower.

LBJ didn't want to do 2. Why Eisenhower?

LBJ was planning to announce his candidacy, but didn't at the last minute because he thought Humphrey would win. Oops.

For Eisenhower, he's far from perfect, but to name a few achievements: ending the Korean War, continuation of New Deal programs and expanding Social Security, the Interstate Highway System, the creation of NASA, desegregation of the armed forces, the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1960, enforcement of Brown v. Board of Education that integrated public schools, and the nominations of William Brennan and Earl Warren to the Supreme Court.

On LBJ I think he was overwhelmed by the Korean war and the assassination of JFK.

You make a good case for Ike. I liked him as a President. I liked Harry "The Buck Stops Here" Truman also.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:56 pm    Post subject:

^^^^

The Korean War?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:04 pm    Post subject:

Other, I am glad there is a term limit and would like to see it expanded to other offices.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:19 pm    Post subject:

Aeneas Hunter wrote:
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The Korean War?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:11 pm    Post subject:

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Other, I am glad there is a term limit and would like to see it expanded to other offices.


I would go with ALL other offices....maybe not two terms....but limits nonetheless.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:17 pm    Post subject:

jodeke wrote:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
^^^^

The Korean War?

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Yes, I know. M*A*S*H is one of my favorite movies. But you do realize that LBJ was not President during that war, right?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:29 pm    Post subject:

Aeneas Hunter wrote:
I voted Other. I pick Grover Cleveland. The jokes about Cleveland going to the White House would be worth it.


Jodeke and you must have loved those at the time.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:56 pm    Post subject:

Ha, republicans and the rich made sure no president could serve more than two terms after FDR rebuilt the middle class with the new deal (after the huge financial collapse of 1929), and gave the rich the shaft with a 94% tax rate above a certain amount (i think it was 200k at the time). Of course this made FDR extremely popular with the general population - 4 terms,

the rich republicans couldn't have that could they?, lol.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:28 pm    Post subject:

Lyndon Johnson was one of the greatest domestic policy presidents. Id vote for him.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:14 am    Post subject:

Aeneas Hunter wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
^^^^

The Korean War?

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Yes, I know. M*A*S*H is one of my favorite movies. But you do realize that LBJ was not President during that war, right?


Yep. LBJ was President during the Revolutionary War. He surrendered West Point to the French.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:39 am    Post subject:

None. Too much power in the executive already.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:56 am    Post subject:

rwongega wrote:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
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The Korean War?

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Yes, I know. M*A*S*H is one of my favorite movies. But you do realize that LBJ was not President during that war, right?


Yep. LBJ was President during the Revolutionary War. He surrendered West Point to the French.


Was that before or after Macho Man Randy Savage and Hulk Hogan piledrived Hitler off the cage during Wrestlemania 10?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:08 am    Post subject:

EldenCampbell wrote:
I'd have LBJ serve a second term. If that doesn't count, Eisenhower.


Ehhh, Lebron has never had a penchant for back to backs.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:23 am    Post subject:

A lot of people may disagree. But I thought jimmy carter was ahead of his Time. But if it goes to the list. I would vote for obama
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:47 am    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
Lyndon Johnson was one of the greatest domestic policy presidents. Id vote for him.


I think that is a fair call, but then . . . there is that other thing in Southeast Asia, that also had dire domestic ramifications. He, as did Nixon, as did JFK, as did Ike, inherited a no-win situation--for a politician. Unfortunately, as good a politician as he was for driving through his agenda, it was also his downfall. He feared losing to communism, and at the time, this would be the death of any politician--which is why maybe some of us are not as endeared with politicians as our saviors as others herein. Someone who was less a politician and more of a historian or political scientist, or simply more pragmatic and less ideological, could see that US troop involvement--getting 59K Americans killed, while tearing the country apart--only delayed the inevitable, and might do the right thing, rather than the political thing.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:32 am    Post subject:

ribeye wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Lyndon Johnson was one of the greatest domestic policy presidents. Id vote for him.


I think that is a fair call, but then . . . there is that other thing in Southeast Asia, that also had dire domestic ramifications. He, as did Nixon, as did JFK, as did Ike, inherited a no-win situation--for a politician. Unfortunately, as good a politician as he was for driving through his agenda, it was also his downfall. He feared losing to communism, and at the time, this would be the death of any politician--which is why maybe some of us are not as endeared with politicians as our saviors as others herein. Someone who was less a politician and more of a historian or political scientist, or simply more pragmatic and less ideological, could see that US troop involvement--getting 59K Americans killed, while tearing the country apart--only delayed the inevitable, and might do the right thing, rather than the political thing.


if it weren't for Robert McNamara feeding (bleep) into lyndon ear than the war in Vietnam would ended a lot sooner than it did
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:59 am    Post subject:

Aeneas Hunter wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
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The Korean War?

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Yes, I know. M*A*S*H is one of my favorite movies. But you do realize that LBJ was not President during that war, right?


Yes, I was referring to Eisenhower and his involvment. I wonder how many of that M*A*S*H* crew is still living?
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