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Finally watched A Star is Born and don't understand all the fuss. The music was good and it was shot well but the story itself wasn't that great.

Have you seen earlier versions of A Star is Born?
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Satoshi Kon left this earth too soon. If you enjoy Japanese animation - or any animated works - Kon's four films (Perfect Blue, Millennium Actress, Tokyo Godfathers, Paprika) and television series ( Paranoia Agent) are all worth multiple watches. He was fascinated by how animation could be used to explore the worlds within our minds moreso than the giant robots of his predecessors. Kon was a true titan of animation before his premature death due to cancer at age 46 (2010).
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:35 am    Post subject:

loslakersss wrote:
Finally watched A Star is Born and don't understand all the fuss. The music was good and it was shot well but the story itself wasn't that great.


I agree with you. I have not seen any previous version, but I thought that it could have been better. I really like Bradley Cooper as an actor, and I thought he was very good. I thought that Lady Gaga was solid with her acting, and of course she's close to a nonpareil singer. I thought that Sam Elliott, Andrew Dice Clay, and even Dave Chappelle played their supporting roles quite well. My biggest issue was actually with Cooper's direction of the film.

Overall, I did like it, but I definitely did not love it.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:14 pm    Post subject:

ocho, what were your thoughts on the editing of Ramsey's You Were Never Really Here?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:23 pm    Post subject:

The Sisters Brothers is one of the greatest Westerns ever filmed. It's on a par with Unforgiven.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:16 pm    Post subject:

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The Sisters Brothers is one of the greatest Westerns ever filmed. It's on a par with Unforgiven.


I love Unforgiven. Curious what you think of Open Range, BVH.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:23 pm    Post subject:

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ocho, what were your thoughts on the editing of Ramsey's You Were Never Really Here?


Not to answer for ocho, but the editing was essentially the entirety of that film. That was an Editor’s wet dream. Gorgeous imagery to play with and performances to match. It’s a film that perfectly illustrates how editing truly tells the story. There are sequences several minutes long where there’s no dialogue, only imagery and pacing. And I would love to have the opportunity to cut so much amazing footage. It’s also important to note how important the sound work was on that film.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:14 am    Post subject:

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ocho, what were your thoughts on the editing of Ramsey's You Were Never Really Here?


Loved it. One of my favorites from last year.
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Just saw Green Book. Loved it. So good.
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The Sisters Brothers is one of the greatest Westerns ever filmed. It's on a par with Unforgiven.


I love Unforgiven. Curious what you think of Open Range, BVH.

Sadly, I don't think I've seen it. I take it I should track it down
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ocho, what were your thoughts on the editing of Ramsey's You Were Never Really Here?


Not to answer for ocho, but the editing was essentially the entirety of that film. That was an Editor’s wet dream. Gorgeous imagery to play with and performances to match. It’s a film that perfectly illustrates how editing truly tells the story. There are sequences several minutes long where there’s no dialogue, only imagery and pacing. And I would love to have the opportunity to cut so much amazing footage. It’s also important to note how important the sound work was on that film.

Great stuff, thank you. You're also an editor?
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ocho, what were your thoughts on the editing of Ramsey's You Were Never Really Here?


Loved it. One of my favorites from last year.

The underwater scene will stick in my head until the day the wiring up there goes wrong.
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ocho, what were your thoughts on the editing of Ramsey's You Were Never Really Here?


Not to answer for ocho, but the editing was essentially the entirety of that film. That was an Editor’s wet dream. Gorgeous imagery to play with and performances to match. It’s a film that perfectly illustrates how editing truly tells the story. There are sequences several minutes long where there’s no dialogue, only imagery and pacing. And I would love to have the opportunity to cut so much amazing footage. It’s also important to note how important the sound work was on that film.

Great stuff, thank you. You're also an editor?


I am.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:55 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
The Sisters Brothers is one of the greatest Westerns ever filmed. It's on a par with Unforgiven.


Thanks for reminding me I need to watch The Sisters Brothers.
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The Sisters Brothers is one of the greatest Westerns ever filmed. It's on a par with Unforgiven.


I love Unforgiven. Curious what you think of Open Range, BVH.

Sadly, I don't think I've seen it. I take it I should track it down

Open Range is great stuff. And I really enjoyed Apaloosa as well, though I’m a huge Ed Harris fan and I’ve been reading Robert Parker novels since I was a late teen.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:03 pm    Post subject:

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ocho, what were your thoughts on the editing of Ramsey's You Were Never Really Here?


Loved it. One of my favorites from last year.

The underwater scene will stick in my head until the day the wiring up there goes wrong.


That was gorgeous! And there were some stunning montages with one-point perspectives wipes and jumps
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The Sisters Brothers is one of the greatest Westerns ever filmed. It's on a par with Unforgiven.


Thanks for reminding me I need to watch The Sisters Brothers.

I may have been a little too excited after watching it last night (a couple old fasioneds certainly helped), so I'll say it's one of the best westerns I've seen since Unforgiven. The Assassination of Jesse James is better (and a masterpiece), but I can't think of any others I've seen over the last 25 years that have been better unless one wants to call No Country for Old Men a western.
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ocho, what were your thoughts on the editing of Ramsey's You Were Never Really Here?


Loved it. One of my favorites from last year.

The underwater scene will stick in my head until the day the wiring up there goes wrong.


That was gorgeous! And there were some stunning montages with one-point perspectives wipes and jumps

It's on Amazon Prime. I'm getting excited to re-watch it soon. And I realized I've never seen Morvern Callar, now also on Prime.
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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
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The Sisters Brothers is one of the greatest Westerns ever filmed. It's on a par with Unforgiven.


Thanks for reminding me I need to watch The Sisters Brothers.

I may have been a little too excited after watching it last night (a couple old fasioneds certainly helped), so I'll say it's one of the best westerns I've seen since Unforgiven. The Assassination of Jesse James is better (and a masterpiece), but I can't think of any others I've seen over the last 25 that have been better unless one wants to call No Country for Old Men a western.


Moscow Mules have certainly influenced some of my decision making in the past.

Old Country is not really a Western, though an argument could be made that it and Hell or High Water are certainly Western adjacent.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:48 pm    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
The Sisters Brothers is one of the greatest Westerns ever filmed. It's on a par with Unforgiven.


I love Unforgiven. Curious what you think of Open Range, BVH.

Sadly, I don't think I've seen it. I take it I should track it down

Open Range is great stuff. And I really enjoyed Apaloosa as well, though I’m a huge Ed Harris fan and I’ve been reading Robert Parker novels since I was a late teen.


Big Ed Harris fan, too.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:16 am    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
The Sisters Brothers is one of the greatest Westerns ever filmed. It's on a par with Unforgiven.


Gotta get around to seeing this one. The cast looks promising and I'm a big fan of westerns. I don't catch a lot of contemporary westerns, but of the few I've watched, I really liked 310 to Yuma and the True Grit remake.
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Finally watched A Star is Born and don't understand all the fuss. The music was good and it was shot well but the story itself wasn't that great.

Have you seen earlier versions of A Star is Born?


I have not. I've heard so many mixed reviews of the other versions. Is there something I'm missing by not seeing those?
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Watched Roma last night. Visually it was excellent, although I thought in some instances that color would have made the scenes stand out more or add to the 70's era. Overall a touching story.
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DaMuleRules wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
The Sisters Brothers is one of the greatest Westerns ever filmed. It's on a par with Unforgiven.


Thanks for reminding me I need to watch The Sisters Brothers.

I may have been a little too excited after watching it last night (a couple old fasioneds certainly helped), so I'll say it's one of the best westerns I've seen since Unforgiven. The Assassination of Jesse James is better (and a masterpiece), but I can't think of any others I've seen over the last 25 that have been better unless one wants to call No Country for Old Men a western.


Moscow Mules have certainly influenced some of my decision making in the past.

Old Country is not really a Western, though an argument could be made that it and Hell or High Water are certainly Western adjacent.


Neo Westerns
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Finally watched A Star is Born and don't understand all the fuss. The music was good and it was shot well but the story itself wasn't that great.

Have you seen earlier versions of A Star is Born?


I have not. I've heard so many mixed reviews of the other versions. Is there something I'm missing by not seeing those?

Tbh, I can't assess earlier versions cuz I haven't seen any flicks prior to the Streisand flick. But I was curious about how we assess filmic cultural heritage passed down through the ages.
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