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Lakers4Life33
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 Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:20 pm Post subject: Where do Laker rookies go in a re-draft today? |
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I think we all share the same sentiment that regardless what you think of Magic and Pelinka, these two absolutely nailed this year's draft and maximized the pick at every spot. Ignoring fit and going straight off BPA, here's where I think our 3 guys go in a re-draft at this moment in time:
1) Lonzo Ball
2) Jayson Tatum
3) Donavan Mitchell
4) Lauri Markkenen
5) Markelle Fultz(wildcard)
6) Kyle Kuzma
7) Dennis Smith Jr
8) Jonathan Isaac
9) Frank Ntilikina
10) DeAaron Fox
11) OG Anunoby
12) John Collins
13) Jordan Bell
14) Josh Hart
For reference, here's a link to the actual draft results: http://www.nbadraft.net/nba_final_draft/2017
Crazy to think that we genuinely got 3 lotto talents, and 3 surefire solid starters or better in the same draft. Feeling great about our future regardless of 2018 free agency  |
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I thought it was funny when people were claiming Kuzma would be taken over Lonzo in a redraft. But I think most are getting the value of Lonzo now. I think kuz is gonna be good for us too and am glad we have both.
One other guy I'm impressed with is Lauri.
Fastest to 100 3s ever? Wowsers.
Two guys I think won't be as good as people think they will be in the future: Mitchell and Tatum. |
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Lakers4Life33
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | I thought it was funny when people were claiming Kuzma would be taken over Lonzo in a redraft. But I think most are getting the value of Lonzo now. I think kuz is gonna be good for us too and am glad we have both.
One other guy I'm impressed with is Lauri.
Fastest to 100 3s ever? Wowsers.
Two guys I think won't be as good as people think they will be in the future: Mitchell and Tatum. |
Could you imagine pairing Lonzo with Lauri??  |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know about the order but I do believe that we have 3 of the top 15 rookies. Plus IMO T. Bryant probably would be in the top 35.
The FO knocked it out the park! |
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Fortysixn2
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: Where do Laker rookies go in a re-draft today? |
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| Lakers4Life33 wrote: | I think we all share the same sentiment that regardless what you think of Magic and Pelinka, these two absolutely nailed this year's draft and maximized the pick at every spot. Ignoring fit and going straight off BPA, here's where I think our 3 guys go in a re-draft at this moment in time:
1) Lonzo Ball
2) Jayson Tatum
3) Donavan Mitchell
4) Lauri Markkenen
5) Markelle Fultz(wildcard)
6) Kyle Kuzma
7) Dennis Smith Jr
8) Jonathan Isaac
9) Frank Ntilikina
10) DeAaron Fox
11) OG Anunoby
12) John Collins
13) Jordan Bell
14) Josh Hart
For reference, here's a link to the actual draft results: http://www.nbadraft.net/nba_final_draft/2017
Crazy to think that we genuinely got 3 lotto talents, and 3 surefire solid starters or better in the same draft. Feeling great about our future regardless of 2018 free agency |
I think it’s be
1) Tatum
2) Mitchell
3) Ball
4) Markkennen
5) Kuzma
6) DSJ
7) Fultz
8) Fox
I don’t think Josh Hart would move. This isn’t how I rank them really, but Ball has not shot well and most of the world doesn’t know what an amazing defender he is due to MSM BS, most people out of LA think he’s a bust right now honestly.
With Fultz, there is a video posted today of him shooting...he totally lost his form, he has had a total mental meltdown since being drafted. His whole “injury” thing I think was a cover, I don’t think he was or is injured...someone more and kind of depressing:scary is going on with him. He may end up being one of those weird NBA trivia questions...”What player Who went first in the NBA draft played the fewest games in the NBA” type of thing. I don’t think Fultz is even a lottery pick in a redraft right now. |
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#StayInYoLane
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Tatum
Ball
mitchell
Lauri
Dsj
Kuz |
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Lonzo
Lonzo
Lonzo
Kuzma
Hart |
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BynumForThree
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Tatum and Mitchell are in a tier of their own. Lonzo's offense is still a big question mark right now. He's in the next tier with Markk, DSJ, Frank and Fultz.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| I’d take Lonzo number one hands down. I wouldn’t think twice. I’ve seen what I’ve needed to see for me to comfortably select him first overall. |
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BigGameHames
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| BynumForThree wrote: | | Tatum and Mitchell are in a tier of their own. Lonzo's offense is still a big question mark right now. He's in the next tier with Markk, DSJ, Frank and Fultz. |
No it isn’t. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Bam Adebayo should be up on some lists too. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| pio2u wrote: | I don't know about the order but I do believe that we have 3 of the top 15 rookies. Plus IMO T. Bryant probably would be in the top 35.
The FO knocked it out the park! |
The FO knocked it out of the park the last 3-4 years. Credit to our scouting department, that is one Buss we should probably keep.
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justsomelakerfan
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Tatum
Mitchell
Lonzo
Fultz
DSJ
Markannen
John Collins
Jonathan Isaac
Josh Jackson
Kuzma
OG Anunoby
De'Aaron Fox
& Blah blah blah blah
Performance this season, Kuzma would be much, much higher. But thinking long term, I give some prospects the benefit of the doubt
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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| defense wrote: | Lonzo
Lonzo
Lonzo
Kuzma
Hart |
That looks good. lol |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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This is way too early, so I'll go conservative:
Lonzo
Tatum
Fultz
Mitchell
DSJ |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| justsomelakerfan wrote: | Tatum
Mitchell
Lonzo
Fultz
DSJ
Markannen
John Collins
Jonathan Isaac
Josh Jackson
Kuzma
OG Anunoby
De'Aaron Fox
& Blah blah blah blah
Performance this season, Kuzma would be much, much higher. But thinking long term, I give some prospects the benefit of the doubt |
That is how I would have it at the top, Tatum then some order of Lonzo and Mitchell. Probably:
Tatum
Ball
Mitchell
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| No love for the 2 guys who carried Lonzo at UCLA? |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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I saw some early redraft articles that had Lonzo out of top 10. The most recent I saw had him back at number 2.
I think in a few years a redraft would look like this.
1. Lonzo
2. Tatum
3. Mitchell
4. Markannen
5. Kuzma |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Fultz may be out of the league in 2 yrs |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | No love for the 2 guys who carried Lonzo at UCLA? |
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| BynumForThree wrote: | | Tatum and Mitchell are in a tier of their own. Lonzo's offense is still a big question mark right now. He's in the next tier with Markk, DSJ, Frank and Fultz. |
SMH. Nobody is so good that they're on a tier of their own. Mitchell is doing well, but it's not like we haven't seen something like him before. He's a dime a dozen. And when it's all said and done, how many tweener two guards end up in the history books? Steve Francis, Monta Ellis, Gilbert Arenas, etc. They all fizzle out man. You can also find similar active players in Lou Williams, Eric Gordon, CJ McCollum, etc. The only tweener scoring guard that is of any significance off the top of my head, that I have seen play in my life, is 6'3 Joe Dumars. Maybe DM is carving something out for himself, and will force us to ask down the line, "Who is the next Donovan Mitchell? Maybe, but history is not on his side.
Lonzo can't shoot efficiently right now, but he ain't a dime a dozen. He's special. I don't know what to make of Tatum really. He has the luxury of just fitting in, and apparently, when he's open he knocks down shots. Is he a scoring monster in the making who can carry his own squad? I dunno, maybe. The way BI has been progressing, I don't feel we missed out on Tatum.
In my books, it's gotta be Lonzo and Tatum at the top 2. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:06 am Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | I thought it was funny when people were claiming Kuzma would be taken over Lonzo in a redraft. But I think most are getting the value of Lonzo now. I think kuz is gonna be good for us too and am glad we have both.
One other guy I'm impressed with is Lauri.
Fastest to 100 3s ever? Wowsers.
Two guys I think won't be as good as people think they will be in the future: Mitchell and Tatum. |
And what people overlook the most about Kuzma is the fact he'll turn 23 this year and came in as a junior. That means his game was more mature and his ceilling is lower than the 20 year old freshman Ball (or any other 19/20 yo coming in).
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:09 am Post subject: |
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| pio2u wrote: | I don't know about the order but I do believe that we have 3 of the top 15 rookies. Plus IMO T. Bryant probably would be in the top 35.
The FO knocked it out the park! |
Yup. Another great year by our Scouting dept |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| danzag wrote: | | pio2u wrote: | I don't know about the order but I do believe that we have 3 of the top 15 rookies. Plus IMO T. Bryant probably would be in the top 35.
The FO knocked it out the park! |
Yup. Another great year by our Scouting dept |
It will be tough but hopefully they can find another diamond in the rough with our second round pick this season. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:51 am Post subject: |
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Lonzo as #1 is a no brainer.
I can't place Fultz anywhere until he plays a few more games. Considering only the performance pre draft, he still goes Top-5. Most likely Markkanen, Mitchell and Tatum complete the Top-5. I would be very tempted to pick Markkanen at #2.
Next tier has: DSJ, Kuzma, Ntilikina, Collins and Jackson (no specific order). Hart could be a lottery pick.
Anyway, still a long way to go. It will look completely different by the end of season and even more in the years to come.
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