LAL are paying a high price for not signing Derek Fisher

novano2004 · Starting Rotation Joined: 03 Dec 2005 Posts: 312

Oh now LAL is looking for a PG, thank you. why did not sign Derek fisher then, he knew the system played with kobe. I didnt feel as bad when LAL traded Shaq, but i felt very bad when we lost two players Horry and Fisher. i felt those two were like the glue to this team but Kuptchec(i dont even know how to spell his name and dont really care) did not sign fisher.
Good luck finding another point guard soon (you are the weakest link,,Good bye)

AirKobe8 · Star Player Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 8586

I luved D-Fish, he was my fave player in the Laker squad, I even wear #2 at my team, I'd love him back, and it was a big mistake not resigning him.
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AirKobe8 · Star Player Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 8586

^Besides Kobe of course.
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novano2004 · Starting Rotation Joined: 03 Dec 2005 Posts: 312

In one of the LAL Dynasty DVD collections one of the LAL assistants said that Derek was the best player who understood the triangle in the LAL team. What does that mean? it means that we lost one of the most valuable players. We cant pay fisher 5.5M but we can pay Kwame 6 or 7M. Man this is stupid.

RG73 · Franchise Player Joined: 14 Jul 2001 Posts: 11508

Oh dear lord, The Shoes Dream Team--Fish and LO.

But, I'll grant that while Fish wouldn't have helped defense at the 1 much, he'd certainly have some court poise out there, make clutch shots (which he has too since he gives up so many), and could help manage the offense. And hell, Buss is already paying like $60-odd million for this disaster of a team, what's another $5-6 million a year for Fish?

That said, any of the guards we considered during the off-season, Daniels, Watson, or Anderson, could have pretty much provided the same thing.

Mitch went to the bargain bin instead and still overpaid for McKie.

But this franchise has more or less neglected the point guard position since trading NVE, and now we're kind of seeing why 29 other teams generally value having a point guard.

NY_LakerFan · Star Player Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 1297

Wow ... Fisher was the key to those championships all along. Who knew?????

Seriously, I have never been a big fan of Fish. He was just OK on defense and even then it was only because he had a young Shaq in the middle to make up for his inability to prevent penetration. Even with Shaq have you all forgotten how any decent PG used to light Fish up???

He may be an upgrade from Smush and certainly from last year's Chucky nightmare but he is certainly not the answer for our future at $31 mil over 5 years. Especially since he will be almost 36 by the time his contract is done.

kobekillinu2nite · Star Player Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 1774

Let's trade Mitch!!!!!!!!!!!

wolfpaclaker · Retired Number Joined: 29 May 2002 Posts: 58344

This franchise has ingnored a traditoinal PG since Kobe developped and Phil came along.

1- Phil doesn't like ball dominant PG's.
2- We signed a HOF in Payton - forgot that? - and it didn't work out
3- The chemistry issues with a traditional point and Bryant is always under suspicion
4- Phil's coach and has a huge say on who come's in or not.
5- Baron almost was a Laker last season until they felt that his back wouldn't hold up longterm (coincidentally that was when Phil wasn't coach)

AirKobe8 · Star Player Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 8586

Its just like novano said, we pay Kwame 7mi and cant pay Fish 5mi after he won 3 titles with us? I dont understand Mitch's logic. And after Mitch declines 5mi to Fish he gives it to Vlade, who would sit the season, way to go Mitchy.
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Sage_10 · Star Player Joined: 24 Dec 2005 Posts: 6668

Paying fish 6mil a year would have been a big mistake. True his defense was better than Smushs but don't give him full credit for holding the fort defensively. Those Lakers squads knew how to play team defense. They knew how to rotate, recover and help out. This team doesn't. I loved D-fish but I doubt bringing him would cure all the Lakers defensive problems.

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KobeButler · Franchise Player Joined: 14 Nov 2004 Posts: 10179

is this the point were we start regreting every single move weve done on the past?

So far someone complained about Mitch trading Payton for Mihm, ect.

Now someone is complaining over not resigning Derek Fisher.

Losing is rotting the mind....

We should of resigned Mark Madsen when we had the chance..

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indestrukt · Starting Rotation Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 151

We should have kept Pig Miller.

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THE_SHOES · Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:58 am Post subject:

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numero-ocho · Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:17 am Post subject:

I think this is Step 4 in the "Coping With Laker Losses" cycle that comes after 1) Ripping the Player Not Named Kobe, 2) Demanding This Player to be Traded Immediately, and 3) Screaming for Kupchak' to be Fired.

This is the step where Laker fans check the NBA Box Scores from last night and pick out any player who had a nice game and Questioning Why We Didn't Sign/Re-sign this Player? Soon to be followed by Pleading For the Lakers to Trade for this Player.

Forget about the fact that Fish is a 32-year old PG who has a contract that lasts through the end of 2010.

B-Scott · Starting Rotation Joined: 22 Dec 2005 Posts: 418

Derrick fisher is much much better then Smush an sasha. Ity not eevn close. There are not many guys who can stay in front of Toni parker. Not many guys who can lock down Mike bibby. Those were 2 guys fisher had major problems with. Everyone has problems with those 2

2 yrs ago in the WCF i thought our team D was solid,with fish in the game. Remember he was in the game during crunch time before he hit that big shot at San antonio. He wasnt a liability on D that game. We played great team D.

We need a VET like fish BAD

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eldrunko714 · Starting Rotation Joined: 31 Dec 2005 Posts: 223

All of Fish's weaknesses have been on display big time in Golden State. Give me a break. With his fat contract I would rather have resigned Caron Butler. Fish is old and without the system he basically is a spot up chucker. Fish is not a real point guard. Basically a two. Better shooter than Smush but Smush is more versatile. I don't even like Smush that much.

Sidious · Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:20 am Post subject:

Yeah D-Fish is just amazing, look at all the success he's brought to the Warriors, oh wait.. I liked the kid too he was a gritty little player but he's not worth 40 million. You guys have quite the short memory, there's a reason why Gary Payton's old ass was brought in, Fisher couldn't defend anymore.

8750 · Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:24 am Post subject:

we are paying a very high price for selecting vujacic when duhon was available, cook when josh howard was available, rush when tayshaun prince was available... we are paying a very high price for signing always soft players...