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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:20 pm    Post subject: Lakers Strike out with the Big 3 build a playoff roster

Lakers strike out on Lebron Boogie and Paul. Build a playoff team with the left over free agents.

Lakers have 51 million in salary cap is expected to be 107 million.

My plan is :

Dewayne Dedmon 9ppg 7.8rpg 36% 3pt ..9bpg 1.4apg in 23 mpg 7 ft Mobile Center who blocks shots and shoot 3s


3 years 35 mill 2nd Year players option.

Rodney Hood 16ppg 38%3pt
One year 15 mill leaving the door open to pursue a max player like Kawhi in 2019

Lou Williams you already know what he brings to the table. 3 years 40 mill 3 year team option

Lakers Starting lineup
Dedmon Kuzma Ingram Hood Ball
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Randle Nance Hart Clarkson Lou
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:28 pm    Post subject:

So mozdeng 2.0
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:28 pm    Post subject:

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So mozdeng 2.0


Except this time, hopefully our existing players are good.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:48 pm    Post subject:

You want to give a 32 year old Lou Williams 3 years, 40 million?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:09 am    Post subject:

2018

Mario Hezonja
Nerlens Noel

2019

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:23 am    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
You want to give a 32 year old Lou Williams 3 years, 40 million?


Man.... MozDeng all over again... Offering a big contract to a guy that is about to fall off a cliff
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:03 am    Post subject: Re: Lakers Strike out with the Big 3 build a playoff roster

Car54 wrote:
Lakers strike out on Lebron Boogie and Paul. Build a playoff team with the left over free agents.

Lakers have 51 million in salary cap is expected to be 107 million.

My plan is :

Dewayne Dedmon 9ppg 7.8rpg 36% 3pt ..9bpg 1.4apg in 23 mpg 7 ft Mobile Center who blocks shots and shoot 3s


3 years 35 mill 2nd Year players option.

Rodney Hood 16ppg 38%3pt
One year 15 mill leaving the door open to pursue a max player like Kawhi in 2019

Lou Williams you already know what he brings to the table. 3 years 40 mill 3 year team option

Lakers Starting lineup
Dedmon Kuzma Ingram Hood Ball
Second unit
Randle Nance Hart Clarkson Lou


Hood is a RFA. Lakers should think about trading for him now, and then signing him to a decent long term deal.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:58 am    Post subject:

Klay and love
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:08 am    Post subject:

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Man.... MozDeng all over again... Offering a big contract to a guy that is about to fall off a cliff


Sounds like you talk about LeBron
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:30 am    Post subject:

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Klay and love


How much do you sing K.Love for?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:32 am    Post subject:

repandpresent wrote:
2018

Mario Hezonja
Nerlens Noel

2019

Klay


How much do you give Noel?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:31 am    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
You want to give a 32 year old Lou Williams 3 years, 40 million?


Lou is playing great and the third year is a team option
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:12 am    Post subject:

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CandyCanes wrote:
You want to give a 32 year old Lou Williams 3 years, 40 million?


Lou is playing great and the third year is a team option


Lou would not even be worth that if he were 26. The guy is a career sixth man.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:30 am    Post subject:

repandpresent wrote:
2018

Mario Hezonja
Nerlens Noel

2019

Klay


Back in the draft I thought Hezonja would be a star, maybe a late bloomer like Trevor Ariza? For the right price I would take a flyer on the guy.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:49 am    Post subject:

First off, the lakers didn’t “strike out” on anything. DMC had a devasting injury and PG is happy playing with 2 HOF players. Moving DLO and Mos was a move to create flexibility with 2 max players being the goal obviously. With that looking unlikely there are moves we can make to improve based on our vision as a team.

Second, your plan is horrible. We let guys like lou and nick and even DLO go because they don’t fit into our philosophy. We want to run and play D. Hart, KCP, Ball...all moves toward that end. Lou is the ultimate chucker who is having An amazing year, but he didn’t and doesn’t fit on a winning team. Why do you think Houston traded him?

If no superstars come, players that’s fit with our philosophy

- FA that fit....Avery Bradley, Nerlens Noel
- RFAs that fit....Capela, Marcus Smart

Those are the type of guys that would excel in our system.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:53 am    Post subject:

I'd look for one year deals like Sixers gave JJ Redick.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:05 am    Post subject: Re: Lakers Strike out with the Big 3 build a playoff roster

Car54 wrote:
Lakers strike out on Lebron Boogie and Paul. Build a playoff team with the left over free agents.

Lakers have 51 million in salary cap is expected to be 107 million.

My plan is :

Dewayne Dedmon 9ppg 7.8rpg 36% 3pt ..9bpg 1.4apg in 23 mpg 7 ft Mobile Center who blocks shots and shoot 3s


3 years 35 mill 2nd Year players option.

Rodney Hood 16ppg 38%3pt
One year 15 mill leaving the door open to pursue a max player like Kawhi in 2019

Lou Williams you already know what he brings to the table. 3 years 40 mill 3 year team option

Lakers Starting lineup
Dedmon Kuzma Ingram Hood Ball
Second unit
Randle Nance Hart Clarkson Lou


I told you on another thread that this would be a good plan.

Don't get the hate on LouWill... he continues to get his on lousy teams... even if he declined a little, how much better would he be on a future offensive power house with Kuzma, Ingram, Randle, Clarkson and Ball feeding everyone.

Hell, if he just taught Ingram how to draw fouls it would be worth 40 million.

Hood is a good shooter, Dedmon is a good defender. Both fill key needs

If we know for a fact Klay wants to come back, I'd go for the reunion with Love in a heartbeat... but this also is a nice achievable plan if some of the elites really don't want to come here.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:14 am    Post subject:

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First off, the lakers didn’t “strike out” on anything. DMC had a devasting injury and PG is happy playing with 2 HOF players. Moving DLO and Mos was a move to create flexibility with 2 max players being the goal obviously. With that looking unlikely there are moves we can make to improve based on our vision as a team.

Second, your plan is horrible. We let guys like lou and nick and even DLO go because they don’t fit into our philosophy. We want to run and play D. Hart, KCP, Ball...all moves toward that end. Lou is the ultimate chucker who is having An amazing year, but he didn’t and doesn’t fit on a winning team. Why do you think Houston traded him?

If no superstars come, players that’s fit with our philosophy

- FA that fit....Avery Bradley, Nerlens Noel
- RFAs that fit....Capela, Marcus Smart

Those are the type of guys that would excel in our system.

Hilarious Lou is having his best season and he was traded because they wa Ted Chris Paul the same way we traded Pau and Odom for him. Nerlem is always injured can't shoot 3s and was innthe dog house in Dallas before the injury. Marcus doesn't fit and a very Bradley is having a down year so your plan stinks. You want to invest in a rapist and injury prone center and a guy who can't control his temper and makes bone head plays as often as he plays good plays. Go sit your ignorant are down some where
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:21 am    Post subject:

not a big DJ fan but if we don't get PG or Bron, I wouldn't mind DJ. This isn't settling as imo, DJ style fits perfectly with our team and offense.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:24 am    Post subject:

Car54 wrote:
Fortysixn2 wrote:
First off, the lakers didn’t “strike out” on anything. DMC had a devasting injury and PG is happy playing with 2 HOF players. Moving DLO and Mos was a move to create flexibility with 2 max players being the goal obviously. With that looking unlikely there are moves we can make to improve based on our vision as a team.

Second, your plan is horrible. We let guys like lou and nick and even DLO go because they don’t fit into our philosophy. We want to run and play D. Hart, KCP, Ball...all moves toward that end. Lou is the ultimate chucker who is having An amazing year, but he didn’t and doesn’t fit on a winning team. Why do you think Houston traded him?

If no superstars come, players that’s fit with our philosophy

- FA that fit....Avery Bradley, Nerlens Noel
- RFAs that fit....Capela, Marcus Smart

Those are the type of guys that would excel in our system.

Hilarious Lou is having his best season and he was traded because they wa Ted Chris Paul the same way we traded Pau and Odom for him. Nerlem is always injured can't shoot 3s and was innthe dog house in Dallas before the injury. Marcus doesn't fit and a very Bradley is having a down year so your plan stinks. You want to invest in a rapist and injury prone center and a guy who can't control his temper and makes bone head plays as often as he plays good plays. Go sit your ignorant are down some where



Bradley raped someone?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:26 am    Post subject:

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Car54 wrote:
Fortysixn2 wrote:
First off, the lakers didn’t “strike out” on anything. DMC had a devasting injury and PG is happy playing with 2 HOF players. Moving DLO and Mos was a move to create flexibility with 2 max players being the goal obviously. With that looking unlikely there are moves we can make to improve based on our vision as a team.

Second, your plan is horrible. We let guys like lou and nick and even DLO go because they don’t fit into our philosophy. We want to run and play D. Hart, KCP, Ball...all moves toward that end. Lou is the ultimate chucker who is having An amazing year, but he didn’t and doesn’t fit on a winning team. Why do you think Houston traded him?

If no superstars come, players that’s fit with our philosophy

- FA that fit....Avery Bradley, Nerlens Noel
- RFAs that fit....Capela, Marcus Smart

Those are the type of guys that would excel in our system.

Hilarious Lou is having his best season and he was traded because they wa Ted Chris Paul the same way we traded Pau and Odom for him. Nerlem is always injured can't shoot 3s and was innthe dog house in Dallas before the injury. Marcus doesn't fit and a very Bradley is having a down year so your plan stinks. You want to invest in a rapist and injury prone center and a guy who can't control his temper and makes bone head plays as often as he plays good plays. Go sit your ignorant are down some where



Bradley raped someone?


#MeeToo movement?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:27 am    Post subject:

I would just punt another year and enjoy our guys grow.

Thanks go after kawahi, Kyrie, Klay and Butler
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:31 am    Post subject:

saetarubia wrote:
I'd look for one year deals like Sixers gave JJ Redick.


Besides Reddick who do you have in mind?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:31 am    Post subject:

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Lakesh0wtime wrote:
Klay and love


How much do you sing K.Love for?


My whole point of getting him is cause he's close with Klay and can recruit him lmao.

Plus his shooting and rebounding is a good fit with julius if we keep him.

As for money.

Love is owed 22.6 million this year and 24.1 next year. He then has a player option for the 2019-2020 season.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:31 am    Post subject:

Fortysixn2 wrote:
First off, the lakers didn’t “strike out” on anything. DMC had a devasting injury and PG is happy playing with 2 HOF players. Moving DLO and Mos was a move to create flexibility with 2 max players being the goal obviously. With that looking unlikely there are moves we can make to improve based on our vision as a team.


Oh, no. If the Lakers do not sign two max free agents, it's a strikeout. We let Russell go for an expiring contract and a late first round draft pick. If the cap space from the expiring contract turns into nothing, then the trade was a failure, if not an outright disaster. The fact that the draft pick turned into Kuzma would ease the pain, but the reality is that we could have traded Russell for that draft pick (or better) plus value.

The ideas in this thread illustrate why this would be a problem. Let's assume that Cousins and George are out of the picture and that Lebron does not come here. The options are (1) blow money on second or third rate players (which Socal accurately calls "Mozdeng 2.0"), or (2) basically tank for another year and hope for the best. Option (2) is unthinkable for Magic and Jeanie.

But there is actually an option (3) that I think is more likely: Blow our young assets in a trade for an established star. We'd get fleeced because every other GM in the league knows that Magic and Jeanie are going to get crucified if the team doesn't make a big, splashy move after all of Magic's big talk and after Jeanie fired her brother because he couldn't make fast progress. This is the scenario that scares me. Think of it as a choice between Mozdeng 2.0 and Isiah Thomas 2.0.
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