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Lionel The Laker
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| That was B-Scott. What an idiot. That fat Joe McDonnell still is a Shaq jocker. |
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DaggerInTheHeart
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Can we do a Odom for Frye/Marbury instead? |
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Lionel The Laker
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Joe McDonnell just said Kobe doesn't try on defense and hasn't played D in 2 years? This fat slob makes me sick. |
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gng930
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Lionel, if Penny is going to Orlando, does that mean Francis is going to NY? Francis and Marbury...sounds like a BAD combination to me. |
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mike_kb
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| insidepresence wrote: | | mike_kb wrote: | | If this is indeed true, perhaps the management is stocking up on young studs to go after KG this summer? |
Not unless we keep Odom...I can gurantee that Bynum and Fry doesn't = KG in P&G...Odom, Bynum, and Frye....that is another story |
I doubt Minny would want Odom's long contract when it is proven he cannot even be a second option, let alone first. Minny would want a young stud or two + expirings + draft picks for KG if they dump him. |
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Ank
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| insidepresence wrote: | | mike_kb wrote: | | If this is indeed true, perhaps the management is stocking up on young studs to go after KG this summer? |
Not unless we keep Odom...I can gurantee that Bynum and Fry doesn't = KG in P&G...Odom, Bynum, and Frye....that is another story |
I think you're overestimating KGs value. Odom, Bynum and Kwame with a few picks might do it. Your offer is too much to give up. I have a feeling that BYnum is literally untouchable at this point. I might be way off base, but I think that Buss thinks Bynum is the next big thing. |
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Lionel The Laker
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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| gng930 wrote: | | Lionel, if Penny is going to Orlando, does that mean Francis is going to NY? Francis and Marbury...sounds like a BAD combination to me. |
yep. |
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lionballer7
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Hey Lionel, what is your assessment of of jimmy buss?
and do you think that they should have traded Bynum for Artest? |
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- Sean -
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Joe is right. His D isn't what it was...but it's not all about him losing it...it's about playing w/ the sort of talent or lack thereof as well. |
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Lionel The Laker
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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| he said he doesn't even try on defense. That's not true. |
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DaggerInTheHeart
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Lionel do you think the Lakers will do this deal or are they trying to get another deal done the one your probably talking about??? |
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- Sean -
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Sure he tries, but his effort is many times misdirected i.e. going for the suicide steal more times than he should. |
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Lionel The Laker
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| DaggerInTheHeart wrote: | | Lionel do you think the Lakers will do this deal or are they trying to get another deal done the one your probably talking about??? |
If The Lakers wouldn't trade Bynum for Artest why would they trade him and Odom for Frye? This is not a deal. |
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DaggerInTheHeart
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Thats true, i really hope something major is gonna get done and all these rumors about frye are just things to block the real trade. |
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wolfpaclaker
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Apparently Francis to NY is dead |
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lionballer7
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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| How are we going to get a trade done if there is going to be a constant struggle between Jimmy Buss, Mitch, and Phil?????????? |
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DaggerInTheHeart
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| lionballer7 wrote: | | How are we going to get a trade done if there is going to be a constant struggle between Jimmy Buss, Mitch, and Phil?????????? |
Thats a good question, Lionel can you answer that for us? how can you expect a trade to be done when Jimmy has nixed every trade? |
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LA NATIVE
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From the beginning it sounded like a New York media story. They're panicking far worse over there than we are. Half the league has New York deals on the table. I do like how their media at least tries to put rumors out there to get something going.
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Lionel The Laker
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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They gave Mitchell J and F-  |
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lionballer7
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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| lol |
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wolfpaclaker
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| Lionel The Laker wrote: | | They gave Mitchell J and F- |
What would that make Riley?
He took a team that went one game from the Finals to a team that's not even a contender this season.
Not to mention the contracts he gave Walker and Shaq |
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DaggerInTheHeart
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Lionel, who's the one whos calling for this trade that your saying will be done before the deadline? is it Jimmy or has the whole Organization agreed upon the trade cause i don't think this Organization is on the same page and that has caused Jimmy to nix the deals. |
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frijolero01
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| another example of one of these damn ambiguous thread titles |
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Zaius
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Doesn't Penny's $14 million contract expire this summer? I am actually an Odom fan, but Frye could be a huge star in this league and with the space that Penny's contract would open up, we could actually make a run at some decent talent this summer and next after Grant's expires. |
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LakerJam
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| DaggerInTheHeart wrote: | | I'd do this trade but would Frye & Penny help us make a playoff run maybe Fyre would... |
How exactly? By scoring less than Lamar does? Or is it by grabbing a little over 1/2 the rebounds? Or perhaps it's the 1/6th number of of assists he gets, or the lesser shot blocking, or the worse defense?
Seriously, why do any of you still believe this nonsense? You think Phil wants to get WORSE just to save a buck, let alone to trade for yet another freakin rookie when he's been saying he'd like to add a veteran? We're in the middle of a playoff push here, fellas. Many of the games we lose are directly because of youth and experience, and yet getting younger and adding rookies who can't defend, is a solution? Have you guys seriously not noticed that the Knicks spread these types of B.S. rumors every single trading season? They do it EVERY year even int he off-season, and yet fans are still gullible enough to believe it, no matter how unrealistic it sounds.
I just gotta scratch my head with some of these rumors and the willingness of fans to believe or make such idiotic moves. Making moves just to make a move, is not a good move. You make them to improve your team and trading Odom for Frye and cap relief, doesn't make us better. If Odom is traded, it's not going to be for a rookie, let alone one who doesn't even give us what Lamar does. This particular trade only forces Kobe to do most of the ball handling and facilitating, will wear him out more by adding additional responsibilities, and takes him off of that attacking wing position he's been so brilliant in. |
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