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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:12 am    Post subject:

Who cares about the autograph?
Fans aren't entitled to them.
That's life kid. Learn it early, you don't always get what you want.

Anyway. Larry is hurt again. Hopefully the Cavs keep losing like tonight.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 6:02 am    Post subject:

Larry Nance getting married
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 6:58 am    Post subject:

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Larry Nance getting married


congrats to Larruh!!

I can't imagine being under the immense pressure to please everyone all the time like these guys are
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 7:13 am    Post subject:

The kid will live.

But, a simple "sorry, kid" would have made this a non issue.


I think people are reacting to how Larry seemingly didn't even acknowledge the kid.



After looking at the video again, it looks like before the clip starts, Larry sees the boy approaching him. The lady on the video asks "he said, no?"


So maybe Larry said no right before the child got close.


To Larry's defense, the guy has proven he'll own up to making a mistake (Remember the kobe tweet?)

Nothing to see here.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 10:52 am    Post subject:

Cavs fans felt we fleeced them with the Clarkson/Nance trade. They said getting a 1st was way too much.

They're saying on their forum that Clarkson is a terrible player who shined on a bad team and got over paid by the lesser Buss sibling. They love Nance, but feel he's injury proned and that we got rid of him to make more room for Randle, capspace, etc...
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 10:55 am    Post subject:

Heh heh.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 10:57 am    Post subject:

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Cavs fans felt we fleeced them with the Clarkson/Nance trade. They said getting a 1st was way too much.

They're saying on their forum that Clarkson is a terrible player who shined on a bad team and got over paid by the lesser Buss sibling. They love Nance, but feel he's injury proned and that we got rid of him to make more room for Randle, capspace, etc...


Just wait till we get Shake with their pick.
Cavs fans will really be pissed.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 12:25 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
Cavs fans felt we fleeced them with the Clarkson/Nance trade. They said getting a 1st was way too much.

They're saying on their forum that Clarkson is a terrible player who shined on a bad team and got over paid by the lesser Buss sibling. They love Nance, but feel he's injury proned and that we got rid of him to make more room for Randle, capspace, etc...


Just wait till we get Shake with their pick.
Cavs fans will really be pissed.


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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 12:56 pm    Post subject:

Jordan has been painful to watch in the playoffs. Whenever the game is still important, he is nervously trying to break defenders down with the dribble, fails, then passes out or bricks a jumper. He has been picked on defensively too. It is crazy that he is still getting minutes. That trade was a robbery.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 1:06 pm    Post subject:

AFireInside619 wrote:
Cavs fans felt we fleeced them with the Clarkson/Nance trade. They said getting a 1st was way too much.

They're saying on their forum that Clarkson is a terrible player who shined on a bad team and got over paid by the lesser Buss sibling. They love Nance, but feel he's injury proned and that we got rid of him to make more room for Randle, capspace, etc...


That pretty much sums up the trade. Thanks Cavs!
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 1:13 pm    Post subject:

babyskyhook wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
Cavs fans felt we fleeced them with the Clarkson/Nance trade. They said getting a 1st was way too much.

They're saying on their forum that Clarkson is a terrible player who shined on a bad team and got over paid by the lesser Buss sibling. They love Nance, but feel he's injury proned and that we got rid of him to make more room for Randle, capspace, etc...


That pretty much sums up the trade. Thanks Cavs!


From Kyrie to JC, Nance, Rodney 'no garbage time' Hood and George 'over the' Hill... pretty fair
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 9:47 pm    Post subject:

Nance and Clarkson have been disappointing in the playoffs. Clarkson shooting 32% and averaging 5 points and 1 assist, and Nance averaging 4/4.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 10:33 pm    Post subject:

Lakers made out like bandits dumping JC and Nance when they did. Only downside is that this gives me pause about the Laker draft gurus’ late round prowess since Clarkson and Nance have been badly exposed once they were asked to contribute to a decent team and not just generate stats on a bad one. But it’s hard not to be excited about KUZ and Hart and, to a lesser extent, TBryant anyway.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 10:58 pm    Post subject:

governator wrote:
babyskyhook wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
Cavs fans felt we fleeced them with the Clarkson/Nance trade. They said getting a 1st was way too much.

They're saying on their forum that Clarkson is a terrible player who shined on a bad team and got over paid by the lesser Buss sibling. They love Nance, but feel he's injury proned and that we got rid of him to make more room for Randle, capspace, etc...


That pretty much sums up the trade. Thanks Cavs!


From Kyrie to JC, Nance, Rodney 'no garbage time' Hood and George 'over the' Hill... pretty fair


Add JCDNPCD to that list...
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:02 pm    Post subject:

mhan00 wrote:
Lakers made out like bandits dumping JC and Nance when they did. Only downside is that this gives me pause about the Laker draft gurus’ late round prowess since Clarkson and Nance have been badly exposed once they were asked to contribute to a decent team and not just generate stats on a bad one. But it’s hard not to be excited about KUZ and Hart and, to a lesser extent, TBryant anyway.


What's crazy is we wanted to trade Randle to the Celtics for Avery Bradley. We turned them down because they wanted Nance instead. When two smart front offices make the same dumb decisions. Truth be told, Morris fits much better with them than Randle would at this stage in their careers...
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:21 pm    Post subject:

I don’t agree that Clarkson and Nance are just “bad” players who had to go to a good team in order for who they truly are to be exposed. CLE is not a good team. They’re a bad team in a weak conference that manages to get by because they have the best player in the world on their roster. Lue is doing an awful job of putting Clarkson and Nance in a position to succeed. They look bad because their minutes are totally inconsistent and they’re no longer playing in a modern offense. They’re playing in an ISO system and it’s bringing the absolute worst out of Clarkson, just as it did when he was stuck playing in Byron’s ISO-centric offense. With Nance, it makes no sense to say he was putting up empty numbers on a bad team. Nance isn’t even a numbers guy. He’s an intangible guy. But it’s hard for a player who specializes in the little things to do what he does best from the bench.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:25 pm    Post subject:

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I don’t agree that Clarkson and Nance are just “bad” players who had to go to a good team in order for who they truly are to be exposed. CLE is not a good team. They’re a bad team in a weak conference that manages to get by because they have the best player in the world on their roster. Lue is doing an awful job of putting Clarkson and Nance in a position to succeed. They look bad because their minutes are totally inconsistent and they’re no longer playing in a modern offense. They’re playing in an ISO system and it’s bringing the absolute worst out of Clarkson, just as it did when he was stuck playing in Byron’s ISO-centric offense. With Nance, it makes no sense to say he was putting up empty numbers on a bad team. Nance isn’t even a numbers guy. He’s an intangible guy. But it’s hard for a player who specializes in the little things to do what he does best from the bench.


I always thought Nance would show his true worth playing next to a player like Lebron. Something isn't adding up, and Lue might be to blame. But who does Lue take his orders from?
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 1:10 am    Post subject:

babyskyhook wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
Cavs fans felt we fleeced them with the Clarkson/Nance trade. They said getting a 1st was way too much.

They're saying on their forum that Clarkson is a terrible player who shined on a bad team and got over paid by the lesser Buss sibling. They love Nance, but feel he's injury proned and that we got rid of him to make more room for Randle, capspace, etc...


That pretty much sums up the trade. Thanks Cavs!


I think this is unfair.
I agree JC was always kind of a chucker, but Nance is a total team player.
They both, but especially Nance need a system to play in. Cavs have no system, it is an iso-fest all to please one player. Of course it does not fit a simple role player, like Nance.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 1:11 am    Post subject:

Judah wrote:
I don’t agree that Clarkson and Nance are just “bad” players who had to go to a good team in order for who they truly are to be exposed. CLE is not a good team. They’re a bad team in a weak conference that manages to get by because they have the best player in the world on their roster. Lue is doing an awful job of putting Clarkson and Nance in a position to succeed. They look bad because their minutes are totally inconsistent and they’re no longer playing in a modern offense. They’re playing in an ISO system and it’s bringing the absolute worst out of Clarkson, just as it did when he was stuck playing in Byron’s ISO-centric offense. With Nance, it makes no sense to say he was putting up empty numbers on a bad team. Nance isn’t even a numbers guy. He’s an intangible guy. But it’s hard for a player who specializes in the little things to do what he does best from the bench.


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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:06 am    Post subject:

governator wrote:
babyskyhook wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
Cavs fans felt we fleeced them with the Clarkson/Nance trade. They said getting a 1st was way too much.

They're saying on their forum that Clarkson is a terrible player who shined on a bad team and got over paid by the lesser Buss sibling. They love Nance, but feel he's injury proned and that we got rid of him to make more room for Randle, capspace, etc...


That pretty much sums up the trade. Thanks Cavs!


From Kyrie to JC, Nance, Rodney 'no garbage time' Hood and George 'over the' Hill... pretty fair


Trading for IT and then for our guys. Damn, the Cavs FO basically rolled out the red carpet out for Lebron to walk right out of there lol.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:42 am    Post subject:

I don’t think Larry is a bad player. He is an average player with some big holes in his game, but who could potentially be a nice piece off the bench for someone. Truly, he needs to be in an uptempo system so that he can run because he has no offensive skills in the half court. Cleveland is a bad fit for him.

I think JC is actually a good player in terms of skill development. He is pretty highly skilled offensively, unfortunately he has some shortcoming that make him a player that doesn’t contribute to wins. His defense and his decision making are just too poor. He is the kind of guy that will have a long career in this league, but will never contribute to a championship team. He has that Lou Williams/Swaggy gene. Loves the lifestyle, can score, doesn’t work on his craft enough to be anything but a journeyman.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:23 am    Post subject:

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I don’t think Larry is a bad player. He is an average player with some big holes in his game, but who could potentially be a nice piece off the bench for someone. Truly, he needs to be in an uptempo system so that he can run because he has no offensive skills in the half court. Cleveland is a bad fit for him.

I think JC is actually a good player in terms of skill development. He is pretty highly skilled offensively, unfortunately he has some shortcoming that make him a player that doesn’t contribute to wins. His defense and his decision making are just too poor. He is the kind of guy that will have a long career in this league, but will never contribute to a championship team. He has that Lou Williams/Swaggy gene. Loves the lifestyle, can score, doesn’t work on his craft enough to be anything but a journeyman.


He was shooting 40% from 3 with the cavs before the playoffs. Don't get me wrong I never like his game and I was glad to see him go, mainly because he was a chucker who played no defense, but I think that he is not as bad as he looks now. First time in the playoffs, with Lebron, he is playing tight.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:40 am    Post subject:

Genius trade by the Lakers, a first and loads of cap space. Russell trade was also good.

You don't cling on to guys for nostalgia. Lakers traded these guys at peak market value.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:43 am    Post subject:

Shaber wrote:
Judah wrote:
I don’t agree that Clarkson and Nance are just “bad” players who had to go to a good team in order for who they truly are to be exposed. CLE is not a good team. They’re a bad team in a weak conference that manages to get by because they have the best player in the world on their roster. Lue is doing an awful job of putting Clarkson and Nance in a position to succeed. They look bad because their minutes are totally inconsistent and they’re no longer playing in a modern offense. They’re playing in an ISO system and it’s bringing the absolute worst out of Clarkson, just as it did when he was stuck playing in Byron’s ISO-centric offense. With Nance, it makes no sense to say he was putting up empty numbers on a bad team. Nance isn’t even a numbers guy. He’s an intangible guy. But it’s hard for a player who specializes in the little things to do what he does best from the bench.


This.


Yep, I agree. Good post, Judah.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:46 am    Post subject:

Fortysixn2 wrote:
I don’t think Larry is a bad player. He is an average player with some big holes in his game, but who could potentially be a nice piece off the bench for someone. Truly, he needs to be in an uptempo system so that he can run because he has no offensive skills in the half court. Cleveland is a bad fit for him.

I think JC is actually a good player in terms of skill development. He is pretty highly skilled offensively, unfortunately he has some shortcoming that make him a player that doesn’t contribute to wins. His defense and his decision making are just too poor. He is the kind of guy that will have a long career in this league, but will never contribute to a championship team. He has that Lou Williams/Swaggy gene. Loves the lifestyle, can score, doesn’t work on his craft enough to be anything but a journeyman.


Nance is coaches dream player--- role player off the bench for 16 -20 mins a game. But that's it... a role player. He is what he is. Hard worker, provides energy, great on rotations, great hustle, occasional dunk of the year type poster dunks. Totally replaceable.

JC is a reallllly good 6th man type scorer. Now that he's in a system that doesn't really have good ball movement, he's been relegated to a spot up shooter and occasional iso scorer to bail out the clock. Still love him but truth is that 6 man scorers have never been championship pieces. If you want a 6th man, you want a guy who can come in and much things up with his versatility: Manu, Odom, Iggy.
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