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rebirth
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great trade. The draft pick is the icing on the cake.. for those complaining lets remember at about 8am this morning 1st round picks were treasured and VERY hard to get, Salary cap space was also treasured both more than ever given the market climate.. So Rob and Magic basically Turned Clarkson and nance into Cap space, 2 shooters and a insurance policy at the point and........ got a 1st round pick.. for those complaining you might wanna give up. if this trade doesn't make you happy no trade will.. Magic and Rob pulled off a 5 star trade in a very tough market.. Kudos and PROPS!!
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Frye is the hidden gold in this trade. Another stretch big that can play with Randle (now all four of their top four bigs can play with each other effectively), but also a hedge if they can't get Lopez to sign cheap in the off season.
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quartzcharm
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| Hate to see Nance go, but at least we don't have to hear John Ireland yell "SLAM NANCE!" anymore. - awful catch phrase. |
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PayasoLoco
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| Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Excellent trade |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Omar Little wrote: | | Frye is the hidden gold in this trade. Another stretch big that can play with Randle (now all four of their top four bigs can play with each other effectively), but also a hedge if they can't get Lopez to sign cheap in the off season. |
Yep Frye at the backup 5 really should help this team's spacing issues |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:14 pm Post subject: Re: Was it a good trade? |
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| activeverb wrote: | | Captain America wrote: | I don’t see a specific thread discussing the trade so here goes:
Can someone please prove to me why this was a good trade on our end? My understanding is we got the Cavs first round pick (probably 25ish) which you would hope could one day turn into a player like Larry Nance. At the same time we lost Clarkson who had some value and was on a reasonable contract. Meanwhile we picked up a 5’9” team cancer who nobody wants and took on an overpayed Channing Frye. I just don’t understand the trade from our end. Perhaps I’m missing something? I’d like to hear the arguments on both sides. |
Seems like a trade that is in alignment with Magic & Co.'s strategy.
We traded a 6th man gunner (who I don't consider anything special) and a backup PF for a couple of expiring contracts that will create cap space to go after free agents next year and a pick.
If Thomas plays well, we can resign him or use him in a sign-and-trade to a capped out team that wants him. |
As teams try and get under the tax, the Lakers are not only going to be able to go at max guys but also get vets at short, relatively low cost deals.
It is a buyer's market and we may be one of the only ones there! Let's GO!
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| Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Omar Little wrote: | | Frye is the hidden gold in this trade. Another stretch big that can play with Randle (now all four of their top four bigs can play with each other effectively), but also a hedge if they can't get Lopez to sign cheap in the off season. |
This is what I’ve been saying. Plus he’s a great locker room vet and a friend of Luke.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Omar Little wrote: | | Frye is the hidden gold in this trade. Another stretch big that can play with Randle (now all four of their top four bigs can play with each other effectively), but also a hedge if they can't get Lopez to sign cheap in the off season. |
It will be really sweet to see him drain four or five 3's in a game for the Lakers finally instead of against us!
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How excited you are about this trade is directly related to how excited you are with the 2 max plan. Those that “believe” in it are thrilled. I ‘m lukewarm on it at best.
Hate the see the two young guys go for cap space. Having a 1st this year has its uses. To achieve the 2 max possibility it was a great trade.
Lakers had some nice chemistry building. Remains to be seen how they finish out this season and if IT and Frye can be a positive. Defense and rebounding took a hit too. Perhaps some improved scoring will offset the defensive issues.
Basically we will have no idea if it was worth it until next year. Who do they sign and more importantly how competitive are they. |
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The trade basically gives the Lakers a lot of different options to improve their team moving forward this offseason and beyond. Some options could be:
- Sign a max player
- Dump Randle and stretch Deng and get 2 max players
- Keep Randle
- Entice a team to take on the rest of Deng's contract with draft picks attached
- Use their cap space to help capped out teams for draft picks
- Facilitate a sign-and-trade for Isaiah Thomas to a capped out team for draft picks
- Draft and develop another young prospect
And then moving forward in the next offseason depending on what happens this offseason, if they still have Deng:
- Trade Deng as an expiring contract for a decent player with multiple seasons left on his contract
- Trade Deng away along with a draft pick for cap space
- Stretch him with less of a cost
- Keep him and let him go after the following season
At the bare minimum, we should find out who the Lakers consider the core of the team this summer and start opening up the window for contention. |
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| Good trade, it was necessary. More excited for the draft pick than the cap space right now because I feel there’s only 1 max worth going for this offseason in George. But hopefully we get Randle re-signed and have some flexibility for 2019 as well |
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Should we really assume IT4 is just a throw in and Lakers have no interest in resigning him?
His cap hold is extremely friendly and he could be kept with two 30m max stars. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerMindLA wrote: | Should we really assume IT4 is just a throw in and Lakers have no interest in resigning him?
His cap hold is extremely friendly and he could be kept with two 30m max stars. |
You never know. We have 25 more games to take a look at him.
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nickuku
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| Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Great trade but i will miss nance. |
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| 32 wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | Should we really assume IT4 is just a throw in and Lakers have no interest in resigning him?
His cap hold is extremely friendly and he could be kept with two 30m max stars. |
You never know. We have 25 more games to take a look at him. |
Word is that hip is bad and not going to ever be the same, and he's likely to just do it in one day soon.
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| LakerMindLA wrote: | Should we really assume IT4 is just a throw in and Lakers have no interest in resigning him?
His cap hold is extremely friendly and he could be kept with two 30m max stars. |
No. You should assume IT is an expiring K with upside if he proves himself over the remainjng games. |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | Frye is the hidden gold in this trade. Another stretch big that can play with Randle (now all four of their top four bigs can play with each other effectively), but also a hedge if they can't get Lopez to sign cheap in the off season. |
This is what I’ve been saying. Plus he’s a great locker room vet and a friend of Luke. |
Also a good Thomas Bryant mentor and pretty tight with our primary free agent target.
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| Omar Little wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | Should we really assume IT4 is just a throw in and Lakers have no interest in resigning him?
His cap hold is extremely friendly and he could be kept with two 30m max stars. |
You never know. We have 25 more games to take a look at him. |
Word is that hip is bad and not going to ever be the same, and he's likely to just do it in one day soon. |
Yeah I've heard similar. It's really sad.
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One definite area of improvement will be FT%.
IT shoots 90% and Frye shoots 93% from the free throw line. |
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| pio2u wrote: | One definite area of improvement will be FT%.
IT shoots 90% and Frye shoots 93% from the free throw line. |
IT will shoot 35/25 from the field. |
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| 32 wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | Should we really assume IT4 is just a throw in and Lakers have no interest in resigning him?
His cap hold is extremely friendly and he could be kept with two 30m max stars. |
You never know. We have 25 more games to take a look at him. |
Word is that hip is bad and not going to ever be the same, and he's likely to just do it in one day soon. |
Yeah I've heard similar. It's really sad. |
Wow, what did Celtics medical miss? |
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| eureca wrote: | | After Isaiah's year with the Cavs. I am more worried about the negativity he might bring to the Lakers and our young players. He needs to leave that behind. His agent told Rachel Nichols that he won't come of the bench. That they should start him or buy him out. Lakers have no reason to start him. He is clearly the 6th man on this team. Starting him you are put in a position to try to hide him defensively against NBA starters. |
I don't think there's much to worry about. If Thomas continues his divisive behavior causing any issues with our team chemistry, he'll simply be sent home (likely waived) and the team will sign a cheap vet PG to help get through the remaining games. However, I seriously doubt that happens. He has already done himself a ton of damage and needs to seriously focus on being a good teammate while continuing to regain his health (if he's actually able to regain it). |
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| governator wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | Should we really assume IT4 is just a throw in and Lakers have no interest in resigning him?
His cap hold is extremely friendly and he could be kept with two 30m max stars. |
You never know. We have 25 more games to take a look at him. |
Word is that hip is bad and not going to ever be the same, and he's likely to just do it in one day soon. |
Yeah I've heard similar. It's really sad. |
Wow, what did Celtics medical miss? |
The Celtics new of the extent of his hip injury but the Cavs decided to take him anyways. It's pretty much on the Cavs Medical doctors.
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