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Car54
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Absolutely! If you pair The second best player (LeBron) with one of the best two way players in the world. On a top 8 defensive team.
Just compare their production to the production of other duos on contenders.
LeBron 26.5ppg 8rebs 8.7ast 54%fg 36%3pt 1.6spg 1blk
Paul. 22ppg 5rebs 3apg 42%3pt 2.2spg
Those two alone will fix our weaknesses 3 point shooting and free throws.
Out of Harden Paul and Curry and Durant LeBron and Paul are the better defensive players by far. While being the second best shooting the 3.
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fontana3d
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| bfc1125roy wrote: | | fontana3d wrote: | | bfc1125roy wrote: | | fontana3d wrote: | | bfc1125roy wrote: | | fontana3d wrote: | | bfc1125roy wrote: | | DangeRuss wrote: | | bfc1125roy wrote: | | DangeRuss wrote: | | Perfect offseason doesn’t include lebron |
Then what does it include? |
George and keeping options open for next year in hopes of getting Leonard or klay |
Why not just sign George + LBJ. There's no uncertainty of "maybe" getting Leonard or Thompson. |
2 reasons 1. LBJ is getting older, and 2. most people hate him. |
2nd reason isn't valid. I addressed the first by citing how we could move him to the low post and run triangle split cuts from the original version. Allows him to score closer to the basket + facilitate out of the post, which he is excellent at. |
So I still don't have to like LeBron, and also screw Fizdale too because LeBron doesn't run the team. |
Well who would you suggest? We can't hire Blatt for obvious reasons. Maybe steal Messina away from the Spurs?
If Walton would just copy the Warriors plays we'd be so much better. The main thing he's taken is an outdated dribble weave play which sucks. |
It's because Luke doesn't have the players to play the Warriors style. |
His offense is horrible. Warriors run the least PnR in the league and it works because they have everyone touch the ball on offense, so they exert more effort and their energy isn't zapped. It's something he learned from Phil. We only run PnRs or ISOs. I say we fire him, but that's a different discussion. |
Well LeBron is not going to get want he wants. The soon he realizes it the better or we get someone else because he don't have time for his diva ass. |
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fontana3d
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| Car54 wrote: | Absolutely! If you pair The second best player (LeBron) with one of the best two way players in the world. On a top 8 defensive team.
Just compare their production to the production of other duos on contenders.
LeBron 26.5ppg 8rebs 8.7ast 54%fg 36%3pt 1.6spg 1blk
Paul. 22ppg 5rebs 3apg 42%3pt 2.2spg
Those two alone will fix our weaknesses 3 point shooting and free throws.
Out of Harden Paul and Curry and Durant LeBron and Paul are the better defensive players by far. While being the second best shooting the 3. |
and yet we still might not get past GS. |
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Car54
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| fontana3d wrote: | | Car54 wrote: | Absolutely! If you pair The second best player (LeBron) with one of the best two way players in the world. On a top 8 defensive team.
Just compare their production to the production of other duos on contenders.
LeBron 26.5ppg 8rebs 8.7ast 54%fg 36%3pt 1.6spg 1blk
Paul. 22ppg 5rebs 3apg 42%3pt 2.2spg
Those two alone will fix our weaknesses 3 point shooting and free throws.
Out of Harden Paul and Curry and Durant LeBron and Paul are the better defensive players by far. While being the second best shooting the 3. |
and yet we still might not get past GS. |
I hope this isn't your approach to life.
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bfc1125roy
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| fontana3d wrote: | | Car54 wrote: | Absolutely! If you pair The second best player (LeBron) with one of the best two way players in the world. On a top 8 defensive team.
Just compare their production to the production of other duos on contenders.
LeBron 26.5ppg 8rebs 8.7ast 54%fg 36%3pt 1.6spg 1blk
Paul. 22ppg 5rebs 3apg 42%3pt 2.2spg
Those two alone will fix our weaknesses 3 point shooting and free throws.
Out of Harden Paul and Curry and Durant LeBron and Paul are the better defensive players by far. While being the second best shooting the 3. |
and yet we still might not get past GS. |
It's not guaranteed, but I think we stand a good chance. You've seen how George played the Warriors in their last matchup. And James has always given them problems.
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| DangeRuss wrote: | | bfc1125roy wrote: | | DangeRuss wrote: | | Perfect offseason doesn’t include lebron |
Then what does it include? |
George and keeping options open for next year in hopes of getting Leonard or klay |
No LeBron, getting Paul George and Deng for Anthony Davis would be a perfect off-season.
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Ziggy
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To me, the "perfect" use of our cap space would be any 3 of these guys, in no particular order:
Lebron
PG13
Randle
Klay
Kawhi
For the record. I'm not a fan of signing Lebron, but in a "perfect" scenario he accepts that Magic and Pelinka run the show here and is willing to play more off-ball like in Miami. |
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Car54
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| diando wrote: | | DangeRuss wrote: | | bfc1125roy wrote: | | DangeRuss wrote: | | Perfect offseason doesn’t include lebron |
Then what does it include? |
George and keeping options open for next year in hopes of getting Leonard or klay |
No LeBron, getting Paul George and Deng for Anthony Davis would be a perfect off-season. |
So you rather have two Robins instead of Iron Man and Robin
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DangeRuss
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Car54 wrote: | Absolutely! If you pair The second best player (LeBron) with one of the best two way players in the world. On a top 8 defensive team.
Just compare their production to the production of other duos on contenders.
LeBron 26.5ppg 8rebs 8.7ast 54%fg 36%3pt 1.6spg 1blk
Paul. 22ppg 5rebs 3apg 42%3pt 2.2spg
Those two alone will fix our weaknesses 3 point shooting and free throws.
Out of Harden Paul and Curry and Durant LeBron and Paul are the better defensive players by far. While being the second best shooting the 3. |
Breh when’s the last time you watched lebron? He’s not a 3 pt shooter, sucks at free throws and doesn’t play defense anymore lol. He’s like the exact opposite of what we need and what our style of play is. |
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epak
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Paul George, Kevin Durant with pay cuts and Shake Milton would be the perfect off-season. With Julius signed and Brook for the room. |
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fontana3d
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| epak wrote: | | Paul George, Kevin Durant with pay cuts and Shake Milton would be the perfect off-season. With Julius signed and Brook for the room. |
Durant is staying in GSW and you know this. |
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fontana3d
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| Car54 wrote: | | diando wrote: | | DangeRuss wrote: | | bfc1125roy wrote: | | DangeRuss wrote: | | Perfect offseason doesn’t include lebron |
Then what does it include? |
George and keeping options open for next year in hopes of getting Leonard or klay |
No LeBron, getting Paul George and Deng for Anthony Davis would be a perfect off-season. |
So you rather have two Robins instead of Iron Man and Robin |
Yeah because this Iron Man is a dochebag, crybaby, diva, etc. |
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fontana3d
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| bfc1125roy wrote: | | fontana3d wrote: | | Car54 wrote: | Absolutely! If you pair The second best player (LeBron) with one of the best two way players in the world. On a top 8 defensive team.
Just compare their production to the production of other duos on contenders.
LeBron 26.5ppg 8rebs 8.7ast 54%fg 36%3pt 1.6spg 1blk
Paul. 22ppg 5rebs 3apg 42%3pt 2.2spg
Those two alone will fix our weaknesses 3 point shooting and free throws.
Out of Harden Paul and Curry and Durant LeBron and Paul are the better defensive players by far. While being the second best shooting the 3. |
and yet we still might not get past GS. |
It's not guaranteed, but I think we stand a good chance. You've seen how George played the Warriors in their last matchup. And James has always given them problems. |
Well not enough in last years finals he didn't |
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Judah
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| fontana3d wrote: | | Car54 wrote: | Absolutely! If you pair The second best player (LeBron) with one of the best two way players in the world. On a top 8 defensive team.
Just compare their production to the production of other duos on contenders.
LeBron 26.5ppg 8rebs 8.7ast 54%fg 36%3pt 1.6spg 1blk
Paul. 22ppg 5rebs 3apg 42%3pt 2.2spg
Those two alone will fix our weaknesses 3 point shooting and free throws.
Out of Harden Paul and Curry and Durant LeBron and Paul are the better defensive players by far. While being the second best shooting the 3. |
and yet we still might not get past GS. |
I die of laughter every time I read this strange ‘But they still wouldn’t be better than the Warriors’ argument. You guys are hilarious.
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fontana3d
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Judah wrote: | | fontana3d wrote: | | Car54 wrote: | Absolutely! If you pair The second best player (LeBron) with one of the best two way players in the world. On a top 8 defensive team.
Just compare their production to the production of other duos on contenders.
LeBron 26.5ppg 8rebs 8.7ast 54%fg 36%3pt 1.6spg 1blk
Paul. 22ppg 5rebs 3apg 42%3pt 2.2spg
Those two alone will fix our weaknesses 3 point shooting and free throws.
Out of Harden Paul and Curry and Durant LeBron and Paul are the better defensive players by far. While being the second best shooting the 3. |
and yet we still might not get past GS. |
I die of laughter every time I read this strange ‘But they still wouldn’t be better than the Warriors’ argument. You guys are hilarious. |
Well what do you expect no one is beating that team for at least another 2 years so really wasting the last of the douchebag's prime. |
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epak
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| fontana3d wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Paul George, Kevin Durant with pay cuts and Shake Milton would be the perfect off-season. With Julius signed and Brook for the room. |
Durant is staying in GSW and you know this. |
Like Phil said.
Perfect. |
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fontana3d
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | fontana3d wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Paul George, Kevin Durant with pay cuts and Shake Milton would be the perfect off-season. With Julius signed and Brook for the room. |
Durant is staying in GSW and you know this. |
Like Phil said.
Perfect. |
It's the truth. |
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Ziggy
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| fontana3d wrote: | | Judah wrote: | | fontana3d wrote: | | Car54 wrote: | Absolutely! If you pair The second best player (LeBron) with one of the best two way players in the world. On a top 8 defensive team.
Just compare their production to the production of other duos on contenders.
LeBron 26.5ppg 8rebs 8.7ast 54%fg 36%3pt 1.6spg 1blk
Paul. 22ppg 5rebs 3apg 42%3pt 2.2spg
Those two alone will fix our weaknesses 3 point shooting and free throws.
Out of Harden Paul and Curry and Durant LeBron and Paul are the better defensive players by far. While being the second best shooting the 3. |
and yet we still might not get past GS. |
I die of laughter every time I read this strange ‘But they still wouldn’t be better than the Warriors’ argument. You guys are hilarious. |
Well what do you expect no one is beating that team for at least another 2 years so really wasting the last of the douchebag's prime. |
Before KD, they were actually beatable. So basically if even one of their superstars go down, you have a legit shot at beating them. Hey anything can happen. This is sports. You can't just throw your hands up and give up. |
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Judah
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| fontana3d wrote: | | Judah wrote: | | fontana3d wrote: | | Car54 wrote: | Absolutely! If you pair The second best player (LeBron) with one of the best two way players in the world. On a top 8 defensive team.
Just compare their production to the production of other duos on contenders.
LeBron 26.5ppg 8rebs 8.7ast 54%fg 36%3pt 1.6spg 1blk
Paul. 22ppg 5rebs 3apg 42%3pt 2.2spg
Those two alone will fix our weaknesses 3 point shooting and free throws.
Out of Harden Paul and Curry and Durant LeBron and Paul are the better defensive players by far. While being the second best shooting the 3. |
and yet we still might not get past GS. |
I die of laughter every time I read this strange ‘But they still wouldn’t be better than the Warriors’ argument. You guys are hilarious. |
Well what do you expect no one is beating that team for at least another 2 years so really wasting the last of the douchebag's prime. |
Right, no one can beat them so let’s not bother in even trying  That kind of cowardice is what losers are made of.
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fontana3d
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Judah wrote: | | fontana3d wrote: | | Judah wrote: | | fontana3d wrote: | | Car54 wrote: | Absolutely! If you pair The second best player (LeBron) with one of the best two way players in the world. On a top 8 defensive team.
Just compare their production to the production of other duos on contenders.
LeBron 26.5ppg 8rebs 8.7ast 54%fg 36%3pt 1.6spg 1blk
Paul. 22ppg 5rebs 3apg 42%3pt 2.2spg
Those two alone will fix our weaknesses 3 point shooting and free throws.
Out of Harden Paul and Curry and Durant LeBron and Paul are the better defensive players by far. While being the second best shooting the 3. |
and yet we still might not get past GS. |
I die of laughter every time I read this strange ‘But they still wouldn’t be better than the Warriors’ argument. You guys are hilarious. |
Well what do you expect no one is beating that team for at least another 2 years so really wasting the last of the douchebag's prime. |
Right, no one can beat them so let’s not bother in even trying That kind of cowardice is what losers are made of. |
I never said that we can't, but I'm prepared for disappointment though too. I mean over the last few years it's hard for me to put my faith in something ultimately be disappointed. |
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Judah
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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| fontana3d wrote: | | Judah wrote: | | fontana3d wrote: | | Judah wrote: | | fontana3d wrote: | | Car54 wrote: | Absolutely! If you pair The second best player (LeBron) with one of the best two way players in the world. On a top 8 defensive team.
Just compare their production to the production of other duos on contenders.
LeBron 26.5ppg 8rebs 8.7ast 54%fg 36%3pt 1.6spg 1blk
Paul. 22ppg 5rebs 3apg 42%3pt 2.2spg
Those two alone will fix our weaknesses 3 point shooting and free throws.
Out of Harden Paul and Curry and Durant LeBron and Paul are the better defensive players by far. While being the second best shooting the 3. |
and yet we still might not get past GS. |
I die of laughter every time I read this strange ‘But they still wouldn’t be better than the Warriors’ argument. You guys are hilarious. |
Well what do you expect no one is beating that team for at least another 2 years so really wasting the last of the douchebag's prime. |
Right, no one can beat them so let’s not bother in even trying That kind of cowardice is what losers are made of. |
I never said that we can't, but I'm prepared for disappointment though too. I mean over the last few years it's hard for me to put my faith in something ultimately be disappointed. |
Dude, every single thing in life comes with the risk of disappointment. The solution isn’t to just lay in bed all day because you’re afraid of failure. The point I’m establishing is that if anyone is gonna beat the Warriors, it’s not gonna be the team who’s afraid of them. It’s gonna be the team who doesn’t give a crap that they’re “the mighty Golden State Warriors” and just kicks them in the chest.
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Playoff Contenders for sure..
Title Contenders, maybe not...
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| fontana3d wrote: | | epak wrote: | | fontana3d wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Paul George, Kevin Durant with pay cuts and Shake Milton would be the perfect off-season. With Julius signed and Brook for the room. |
Durant is staying in GSW and you know this. |
Like Phil said.
Perfect. |
It's the truth. |
I want to append Lavine to my perfect summer |
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Hellspawn
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The current GS players synergize with each other AND with their system in such a way that you could create a team out of various prime HOF players and they would still lose to GS.
People don't comprehend how much ridiculously greater the team is than even the sum of its ridiculously talented individual components, relative to other great NBA teams in history.
It is unprecedented in the NBA. They haven't even been trying yet this season.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | fontana3d wrote: | | epak wrote: | | fontana3d wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Paul George, Kevin Durant with pay cuts and Shake Milton would be the perfect off-season. With Julius signed and Brook for the room. |
Durant is staying in GSW and you know this. |
Like Phil said.
Perfect. |
It's the truth. |
I want to append Lavine to my perfect summer |
Objection.
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