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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:02 pm    Post subject:

Someone needs to create a IT piss and moan thread this is brutal
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:03 pm    Post subject:

Two bad things happen when IT is on the floor. One, bad defense obviously, but #2, they STOP running the ball. I'm not saying he's a ball stopper but when the offense goes through him, you don't get nearly as much crisp passing or ball movement. He likes to drive and which creates a lot of stagnation in our offensive flow. He has a hard time making some of those passes out of the paint because he's so short, the other laker player have to over compensate by catching a bad pass which allows the defense to gain a half a step.

We have a much better chance to win with Lonzo playing shooting 1 for 10. Lonzo can play defense, get rebounds (which starts many fast breaks), get steals, he can drive to the hole (although not great at finishing yet). IT has absolutely no place on this roster, hope some team picks him up and gives him a good contract.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:04 pm    Post subject:

This was basically an on the job crash course to get the feel & fit of a new player into our system. Luke & the team have to figure it out quickly because we need to stay on track.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:04 pm    Post subject:

anth2000 wrote:
Good debut for IT

I thought Randle forced a lot of stuff (typical ISO man) and missed free throws. KCP missed free throws. Terrible denfebse. That's game.

Still, impressive debut for IT. Laker fans can't really be unhappy with what he put out there for barely joining the team.


Mejri was a bad matchup for Julius. He was able to clear out the other Mavs bigs but with Mejri, even after he lowered his shoulder into him or elbowed him, Mejri was still long enough to be able to challenge his shot.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:04 pm    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
Someone needs to create a IT piss and moan thread this is brutal


Yep people need to stop crying and quick to attack a d blame. It was his first game, like will figure it out and improve his rotations on defense. Give the kid a break sheeeeesh
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:04 pm    Post subject:

Luke want's to play defend then run, not iso ball. If IT's being picked on and we have to take the ball out the net, you can't do that.

I just don't see how we can play the way Luke want's to with IT. I hope I'm wrong. But I can't see it right now.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:04 pm    Post subject:

Danny Ainge is a genius. He knows IT is so horrible on D that within a year they would get him back on the cheap. IT going back to Boston next year. Good riddance.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:05 pm    Post subject:

I am very concerned about the team’s defense after this trade.

I know the trade was mainly to set us up for free agency, but you gotta think the swap of Nance (whos a good defender) for Thomas (who gets killed) will likely crush any hopes we had of maybe cracking the 8th seed or finishing with a respectable record.

It’s just the first game for Thomas , and he was great offensively, but I just don’t see how they can make up for his 5 foot 8 defensive liability.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:06 pm    Post subject:

Lonzo size and rebound will make up for IT and IT will help Zo with offense. I cant wait to see them play combo, i think it will work
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:07 pm    Post subject:

The losses are going to start piling up now since we traded away everyone. Worst trade ever. All for what? The chance to get an aging Lebron? The front office will never be accused of being smart.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:07 pm    Post subject:

cooleggs wrote:
Luke want's to play defend then run, not iso ball. If IT's being picked on and we have to take the ball out the net, you can't do that.

I just don't see how we can play the way Luke want's to with IT. I hope I'm wrong. But I can't see it right now.


Nailed it..
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:07 pm    Post subject:

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Well I see we lost but thanks for those who responded to me I’m glad to hear Randle and IT did well. I like IT as a player I don’t know about his personality I don’t know if it was the situation in Cleveland or what have you. Hopefully he will just be quiet and play for us while he’s here. Ankywhoo on to the next...


They did well offensively, both got killed on defense lol


Which unfortunately is pretty much the name of our game ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. We have moments but overall our defense is Le weak. No point in acting like bad defense is a new thing that just started happening since we acquired IT
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:08 pm    Post subject:

BruceLeroy1985 wrote:
The losses are going to start piling up now since we traded away everyone. Worst trade ever. All for what? The chance to get an aging Lebron? The front office will never be accused of being smart.


My man relax, take a deep breath it will be alright..
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:08 pm    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
Someone needs to create a IT piss and moan thread this is brutal


Some of it is unwarranted and unnecessary. Some of the constructive criticism is justified.
However the entire team stunk it up defensively whether IT was on the floor or not.

It will take an adjustment period but unfortunately we are running out of time.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:09 pm    Post subject:

TDRock wrote:
BizLA wrote:
TDRock wrote:
Well I see we lost but thanks for those who responded to me I’m glad to hear Randle and IT did well. I like IT as a player I don’t know about his personality I don’t know if it was the situation in Cleveland or what have you. Hopefully he will just be quiet and play for us while he’s here. Ankywhoo on to the next...


They did well offensively, both got killed on defense lol


Which unfortunately is pretty much the name of our game ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. We have moments but overall our defense is Le weak. No point in acting like bad defense is a new thing that just started happening since we acquired IT


sorry, but that is wrong....we have been a good defense this year....besides that blip during the 9 game losing streak, we have been an excellent defense
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:10 pm    Post subject:

Btw. Dallas is tanking. They’d prefer to lose. But if you give little resistance guess they have to take the W. This is why I don’t get excited about this team. Games like tonight and the Orlando game. Literally. No. Stops It’s so frustrating. If Magic and rob strike out in free agency after basically dumping Russell, Jc and Nance? Oh boy ...
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:11 pm    Post subject:

pio2u wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
Someone needs to create a IT piss and moan thread this is brutal


Some of it is unwarranted and unnecessary. Some of the constructive criticism is justified.
However the entire team stunk it up defensively whether IT was on the floor or not.

It will take an adjustment period but unfortunately we are running out of time.


It was a paint fest for the Mavs... it’s no wonder why they were favored coming to the game
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:11 pm    Post subject:

My gut tells me we should end this IT experiment early. Playing 4 on 5 defense will wear everyone else out. Our defense rating is going to be 30th again at the end of the year.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:11 pm    Post subject:

You all are forgetting that Luke sat IT for most of the third quarter... and we had no answer for them defensively. Quit being so reactive and let's hope they find a solution. I could see irritation if we were controlling them and he opened the floodgates. Nothing but pure confirmation bias here.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:11 pm    Post subject:

Lonzo. Don't play defense either some lakers fans are Clueless. He is bad on defense IT is better score. Give me a break. Lonzo fan are too much
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:11 pm    Post subject:

Man if Randle was 7 feet...

Man if Thomas was 6’2”...
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:12 pm    Post subject:

samnizam wrote:
Lonzo. Don't play defense either some lakers fans are Clueless. He is bad on defense IT is better score. Give me a break. Lonzo fan are too much


Wrong.. Lonzo has been very good defensively
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:12 pm    Post subject:

BruceLeroy1985 wrote:
The losses are going to start piling up now since we traded away everyone. Worst trade ever. All for what? The chance to get an aging Lebron? The front office will never be accused of being smart.


My man relax, take a deep breath it will be alright..
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:13 pm    Post subject:

BizLA wrote:
Man if Randle was 7 feet...

Man if Thomas was 6’2”...


They'd both be Hall of Famers... sad to say.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:13 pm    Post subject:

Sentient Meat wrote:
You all are forgetting that Luke sat IT for most of the third quarter... and we had no answer for them defensively. Quit being so reactive and let's hope they find a solution. I could see irritation if we were controlling them and he opened the floodgates. Nothing but pure confirmation bias here.



Ty lakers fans just want to piss and Mon.
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