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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:22 am Post subject:
How were the Celtics able to have such success last season with this guy as their best player? He seems like a chucker who is abysmally, historically, almost unfathomably bad on defense. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
You need to surround Isaiah with four good defenders with length, preferably with at least one ball pressure guard. Boston had three in Smart, Bradley and Rozier. They also had length in Crowder and Brown while Horford was one of the best defensive bigs in the league.
Once Zo is back I think we will have the defenders with length part, though Lopez will have to work hard to do his best Horford impersonation. We also lack the pressure guard (wish Pope was the defensive guard his rep suggested). Ironically Nance would have been a good fit for what we need. _________________ Austin Reaves keeps his game tight, like Kobe Bryant on game night.
You cant hide him. Too short and too bad defensively.
He need to play major minutes in 2Q and some in 3Q. In 4th teams will exploit him every time.
I’m never of the mindset that you can’t hide a defensive liability in a team sport. Boston was a top 10 defense last year with IT even more heavily involved. I’d say the same about offense. You can be a good offensive team even with a poor offensive player on the court.
Of course, this doesn’t make me a big IT fan or anything, just saying that good defensive teams have a sieve individual defender all the time. That, in a way, is what good defensive teams do. They figure out how to play to their strengths and how to limit their weaknesses.
If you added IT's attacking ability to OKC with Roberson and Adams backing him up... we'd never win another game against them at least until we signed the two elites.
Instead of thinking about how this plan will only fail... why not help find solutions before a superior coach does?
He is a defensive liability... but also way better than some journeyman like Tyreke who's never really moved the needle for anyone his entire career. (except for maybe this season)
This situation reminds me of how no one wanted to sign Rondo because of his so called chemistry issues and people kept extolling the praises of Ennis who had five good games during garbage time last season. Or people who don't want to take a chance on Cousins and sign up Brook instead.
If there's a readily available safe choice... there's usually a reason why... because that person is average or unexceptional.
If you want a great player... you need to either already have a great franchise... or at some point take a risk and take a chance on an undervalued asset who has been damaged due to injury or reputation. You will never build it just signing up mediocre players off the waiver wire.
Let's find an answer and use this kid... before someone like Stevens does.
you can hide a dirk because he was still 7 feet tall. you call a zone to semi zone and tell him to keep his hands up. thats still 7 feet of man. IT on the other hand can't be hidden. it is what it is.
If you added IT's attacking ability to OKC with Roberson and Adams backing him up... we'd never win another game against them at least until we signed the two elites.
Instead of thinking about how this plan will only fail... why not help find solutions before a superior coach does?
He is a defensive liability... but also way better than some journeyman like Tyreke who's never really moved the needle for anyone his entire career. (except for maybe this season)
This situation reminds me of how no one wanted to sign Rondo because of his so called chemistry issues and people kept extolling the praises of Ennis who had five good games during garbage time last season. Or people who don't want to take a chance on Cousins and sign up Brook instead.
If there's a readily available safe choice... there's usually a reason why... because that person is average or unexceptional.
If you want a great player... you need to either already have a great franchise... or at some point take a risk and take a chance on an undervalued asset who has been damaged due to injury or reputation. You will never build it just signing up mediocre players off the waiver wire.
Let's find an answer and use this kid... before someone like Stevens does.
We don’t have a Steven Adams backing him up in the paint... we have Brook Lopez and 6’9” Randle.
ESPN just posted a stat that the Mavs shot 44% when IT was in the game last night, 73% when he was on the bench. So yeah, there are lot of unjustified hot takes in this thread. R-E-L-A-X, relax...
If you added IT's attacking ability to OKC with Roberson and Adams backing him up... we'd never win another game against them at least until we signed the two elites.
Instead of thinking about how this plan will only fail... why not help find solutions before a superior coach does?
He is a defensive liability... but also way better than some journeyman like Tyreke who's never really moved the needle for anyone his entire career. (except for maybe this season)
This situation reminds me of how no one wanted to sign Rondo because of his so called chemistry issues and people kept extolling the praises of Ennis who had five good games during garbage time last season. Or people who don't want to take a chance on Cousins and sign up Brook instead.
If there's a readily available safe choice... there's usually a reason why... because that person is average or unexceptional.
If you want a great player... you need to either already have a great franchise... or at some point take a risk and take a chance on an undervalued asset who has been damaged due to injury or reputation. You will never build it just signing up mediocre players off the waiver wire.
Let's find an answer and use this kid... before someone like Stevens does.
We don’t have a Steven Adams backing him up in the paint... we have Brook Lopez and 6’9” Randle.
My point all along has been that we need one, regardless of whether we keep him. Randle has been doing great, but he cannot slow two seven footers... and surprising amounts of teams have them... and about five more good ones will be entering the league next season.
I think that's why they were entertaining Chriss... raw though he was.
ESPN just posted a stat that the Mavs shot 44% when IT was in the game last night, 73% when he was on the bench. So yeah, there are lot of unjustified hot takes in this thread. R-E-L-A-X, relax...
Don’t care about any of you or ESPN’s stats. I watched the game, with my eyes, the Mavs punished Thomas on defense all night. And they ain’t even a good team. A good team will destroy us with that midget on the court.
If you added IT's attacking ability to OKC with Roberson and Adams backing him up... we'd never win another game against them at least until we signed the two elites.
Instead of thinking about how this plan will only fail... why not help find solutions before a superior coach does?
He is a defensive liability... but also way better than some journeyman like Tyreke who's never really moved the needle for anyone his entire career. (except for maybe this season)
This situation reminds me of how no one wanted to sign Rondo because of his so called chemistry issues and people kept extolling the praises of Ennis who had five good games during garbage time last season. Or people who don't want to take a chance on Cousins and sign up Brook instead.
If there's a readily available safe choice... there's usually a reason why... because that person is average or unexceptional.
If you want a great player... you need to either already have a great franchise... or at some point take a risk and take a chance on an undervalued asset who has been damaged due to injury or reputation. You will never build it just signing up mediocre players off the waiver wire.
Let's find an answer and use this kid... before someone like Stevens does.
We don’t have a Steven Adams backing him up in the paint... we have Brook Lopez and 6’9” Randle.
My point all along has been that we need one, regardless of whether we keep him. Randle has been doing great, but he cannot slow two seven footers... and surprising amounts of teams have them... and about five more good ones will be entering the league next season.
I think that's why they were entertaining Chriss... raw though he was.
And to think some of LG wants Randle as the starting center of the future...a 6’9” guy. It’s laughable.
ESPN just posted a stat that the Mavs shot 44% when IT was in the game last night, 73% when he was on the bench. So yeah, there are lot of unjustified hot takes in this thread. R-E-L-A-X, relax...
Don’t care about any of you or ESPN’s stats. I watched the game, with my eyes, the Mavs punished Thomas on defense all night. And they ain’t even a good team. A good team will destroy us with that midget on the court.
Ok man. That first sentence is all I need to know about you.
ESPN just posted a stat that the Mavs shot 44% when IT was in the game last night, 73% when he was on the bench. So yeah, there are lot of unjustified hot takes in this thread. R-E-L-A-X, relax...
Don’t care about any of you or ESPN’s stats. I watched the game, with my eyes, the Mavs punished Thomas on defense all night. And they ain’t even a good team. A good team will destroy us with that midget on the court.
Ok man. That first sentence is all I need to know about you.
Yup. I know basketball. It’s painful to watch a team expose a midget all night, having to double his man and leave guys wide open, or just letting guys get right into the paint cause he can’t stay in front of sh-t. Thomas made Doug McDermott look like a slasher, and Collinsworth some white boy I never heard of looked like 6’6” Hakeem with Thomas on him in the post.
And this was the Dallas Mavericks. The worst team in the west. Just wait until we have to face a good team with mr. 5’8” on D
Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 506 Location: Hermosa Beach, CA
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:43 am Post subject:
Luke Walton is not Brad Stevens or other good coaches. Walton will not figure out how to use/hide IT properly. Heck, he cannot even figure out how to use Lopez! Thus, unfortunately IT will fail.
you can hide a dirk because he was still 7 feet tall. you call a zone to semi zone and tell him to keep his hands up. thats still 7 feet of man. IT on the other hand can't be hidden. it is what it is.
I actually think it is the opposite. Much easier to hide a PG than a big.
Luke Walton is not Brad Stevens or other good coaches. Walton will not figure out how to use/hide IT properly. Heck, he cannot even figure out how to use Lopez! Thus, unfortunately IT will fail.
Yeah that's why we are almost a top 10 defensive team despite giving lot of time to rookies or second year players. The anti-Luke agenda needs to stop...
You cant hide him. Too short and too bad defensively.
He need to play major minutes in 2Q and some in 3Q. In 4th teams will exploit him every time.
You can't hide him in Lukes system he switches everything its not going to work.
His individual defense is pretty horrible I counted over 10 times he lost his man or his man blew by him. On the plus side he can still score at a high level.
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