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venturalakersfan Retired Number
Joined: 14 Apr 2001 Posts: 144432 Location: The Gold Coast
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:30 am Post subject: |
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I don’t watch Sir Charles and the TNT gang, but we have no superstars on our team, whatever that means. That is why we are rebuilding. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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RI Laker Star Player
Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 7134
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:34 am Post subject: |
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PHILosophize wrote: | RI Laker wrote: | PHILosophize wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | Ingram has gone from 9 to 16 points a game... 40 to 46% shooting... 29 to 38% 3pt shooting, almost doubled his assists.
What in your minds constitutes a leap?
Some of you remind me of those helicopter parents who send their children to bed without dinner because they got one B on a quiz. |
That seems like a bad idea. If the kid is starving he/she probably won't do too well on their homework that night and that will just add to the poor grades. |
Bro,
More snow here. How about for you? |
NICE! How many inches are you at for the year? Still only 7 so far here which is far below average |
We are pushing 3 feet. Crazy weather here. Got about 6 inches yesterday and its going to hit 60 degrees tomorrow. |
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PHILosophize Franchise Player
Joined: 05 Nov 2012 Posts: 10758
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:34 am Post subject: |
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PHILosophize wrote: | RI Laker wrote: | PHILosophize wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | Ingram has gone from 9 to 16 points a game... 40 to 46% shooting... 29 to 38% 3pt shooting, almost doubled his assists.
What in your minds constitutes a leap?
Some of you remind me of those helicopter parents who send their children to bed without dinner because they got one B on a quiz. |
That seems like a bad idea. If the kid is starving he/she probably won't do too well on their homework that night and that will just add to the poor grades. |
Bro,
More snow here. How about for you? |
NICE! How many inches are you at for the year? Still only 7 so far here which is far below average |
March is typically the snowiest month here and April (May on the rarest of occasions) can have a decent amount as well. I'm hoping for some big storms _________________ one dog goes that way the other dog goes the other way |
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RI Laker Star Player
Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 7134
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Hopefully, you guys get crushed a few times. |
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PHILosophize Franchise Player
Joined: 05 Nov 2012 Posts: 10758
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Same kind of crazy weather here! Yesterday it was like 65 and right now it is 15 with snow showers. _________________ one dog goes that way the other dog goes the other way |
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Threatt_Level Starting Rotation
Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Posts: 467
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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Sentient Meat wrote: | Ingram has gone from 9 to 16 points a game... 40 to 46% shooting... 29 to 38% 3pt shooting, almost doubled his assists.
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He has to finish the season like he's been playing since January. He was awful up until January. If he keeps up what he's done, then it's fair to say he has taken a leap. |
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deal Franchise Player
Joined: 17 Aug 2008 Posts: 14900 Location: Earth
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | I don’t watch Sir Charles and the TNT gang, but we have no superstars on our team, whatever that means. That is why we are rebuilding. |
Correct. Don't see the controversy at all...for once
Charles is correct. _________________ Lakers need to build a freaking team ! |
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Aeneas Hunter Retired Number
Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 31763
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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Sentient Meat wrote: | Ingram has gone from 9 to 16 points a game... 40 to 46% shooting... 29 to 38% 3pt shooting, almost doubled his assists.
What in your minds constitutes a leap?
Some of you remind me of those helicopter parents who send their children to bed without dinner because they got one B on a quiz. |
No, that's not a leap. That's just linear progression from the rookie year to the sophomore year. If a one-and-done rookie does not make that kind of improvement in his second season, he's probably a bust. Take a look at Jaylen Brown and Kris Dunn (especially on a per 36 minute basis, which accounts for the differences in playing time) and you will see similar improvement. (I chose those two players because they are one-and-dones who were picked in the draft shortly after Ingram.)
A leap means more than just an improvement in stats. It means growing into a different caliber of player. It means that the player has added something new and significant to his game. It means changing the way that everyone looks at the player.
Right now, Ingram is on track to be a good player, maybe a borderline all star. But at the moment, he is still a below average player by any reasonable metric. His PER is under 15, and his ORPM and DRPM are both negative. He is getting better, but the progression is what I call linear -- I mean that it is following the typical progression pattern for a one-and-done. He will need to make a genuine leap to be on track for genuine stardom.
I'm not saying that he can't do it. I'm saying he hasn't done it yet. |
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kevin61 Star Player
Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 1332
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:29 am Post subject: |
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Today, he’s right, so what. |
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BizLA Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:26 am Post subject: |
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Threatt_Level wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | Ingram has gone from 9 to 16 points a game... 40 to 46% shooting... 29 to 38% 3pt shooting, almost doubled his assists.
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He has to finish the season like he's been playing since January. He was awful up until January. If he keeps up what he's done, then it's fair to say he has taken a leap. |
Big lie. |
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