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Do you think Thibs will be fined |
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No fines are only for the Lakers |
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LakerSanity Moderator
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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Tibs being a President of Basketball Ops is a fair point though. However, I wonder if his coaching title shields him a bit. Naturally, coaches have to talk to and talk about opposing players on a daily basis. Makes sense that what they say won't be taken the same way as a pure executive.
However, yes, Magic's fine was B.S. regardless. _________________ LakersGround's Terms of Service
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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Magic: so you're saying if I'm the head coach I can... _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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32 wrote: | LakerSanity wrote: | Different standard for coaches than front office personnel. |
So Thibodeau can say exactly what Magic said and not get a tampering charge even though he also has the title President of Basketball operations? |
What Thibodeau said was in the context of him being the coach of a team playing the player in questions team like an hour prior to tipoff. It wasn’t some random conversation or interview on a random day. It was during pre-game media Q&A. |
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ChickenStu Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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Jerry West has talked about other players. It's not hard to find the examples. Nothing was done or will be done about that.
Magic's fine was BS. |
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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the fact that it's Josh Hart and Giannis plays a significant role....even if it is below the surface.....Giannis is projected to be a franchise level player and maybe the best player in the NBA at some point....Josh is projected to be a career role player.....nobody is tampering or planting a seed in hopes of signing Josh Hart in 3 years. |
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governator Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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LakerSanity wrote: | Tibs being a President of Basketball Ops is a fair point though. However, I wonder if his coaching title shields him a bit. Naturally, coaches have to talk to and talk about opposing players on a daily basis. Makes sense that what they say won't be taken the same way as a pure executive.
However, yes, Magic's fine was B.S. regardless. |
And Magic’s comment was in the context of ex-NBA player praising Giannis |
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LakerLanny Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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2 year suspension for Thibs seems reasonable. Maybe he can lose weight, get in shape and regain his voice during that time. _________________ Love, Laker Lanny |
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Coaches are allowed to talk about other players.
GMs and President's of Basketball Operations, aren't. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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yes, because clearly Josh Hart is superstar material. _________________ "Now, if life is coffee, then the jobs, money & position in society are the cups. They are just tools to hold & contain life, but the quality of life doesn't change. Sometimes, by concentrating only on the cup, we fail to enjoy the coffee in it." |
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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32 wrote: | LakerSanity wrote: | Different standard for coaches than front office personnel. |
So Thibodeau can say exactly what Magic said and not get a tampering charge even though he also has the title President of Basketball operations? |
Yes, Magic wouldn’t have been fined if not for the Pelinka fine. After that Silver told them no more mentioning player’s names but Magic disobeyed that directive. Minny isn’t under the same microscope. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | Coaches are allowed to talk about other players.
GMs and President's of Basketball Operations, aren't. |
Thibs is president of basketball ops. |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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levon wrote: | MJST wrote: | Coaches are allowed to talk about other players.
GMs and President's of Basketball Operations, aren't. |
Thibs is president of basketball ops. |
And he is also the coach. And when he was asked the question about Hart, it was right before the game.
So contextually, it was in his role as a coach and in reference to the game about to be played.
As Silver said, context is everything. |
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | the fact that it's Josh Hart and Giannis plays a significant role....even if it is below the surface.....Giannis is projected to be a franchise level player and maybe the best player in the NBA at some point....Josh is projected to be a career role player.....nobody is tampering or planting a seed in hopes of signing Josh Hart in 3 years. |
Isn't that the basic definition of a double standard? |
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:44 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | 32 wrote: | LakerSanity wrote: | Different standard for coaches than front office personnel. |
So Thibodeau can say exactly what Magic said and not get a tampering charge even though he also has the title President of Basketball operations? |
Yes, Magic wouldn’t have been fined if not for the Pelinka fine. After that Silver told them no more mentioning player’s names but Magic disobeyed that directive. Minny isn’t under the same microscope. |
Same words, same fine.
Silver isn't supposed to make differences. |
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PayasoLoco Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:13 am Post subject: |
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someone tweet Silver. He has multiple social agendas im not gonna get into but hes showing another agenda here against the Lakers |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:07 am Post subject: |
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rogers49 wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | 32 wrote: | LakerSanity wrote: | Different standard for coaches than front office personnel. |
So Thibodeau can say exactly what Magic said and not get a tampering charge even though he also has the title President of Basketball operations? |
Yes, Magic wouldn’t have been fined if not for the Pelinka fine. After that Silver told them no more mentioning player’s names but Magic disobeyed that directive. Minny isn’t under the same microscope. |
Same words, same fine.
Silver isn't supposed to make differences. |
Yes, he is. Again, as he said, context is everything.
And the context in which Magic made his comments, and the context in which Thibodeau made his comments, are entirely different.
I don't even agree with the, found it to be pretty weak, but my god Laker fans. |
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Ziggy Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:34 am Post subject: |
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Context is the exact same. Not sure why some are putting so much effort into making it sound like its not. Part of the anti-Magic crowd maybe? Odd. Seems pretty obvious it's a double standard against the Lakers. |
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TooMuchMajicBuss Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:35 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | 32 wrote: | LakerSanity wrote: | Different standard for coaches than front office personnel. |
So Thibodeau can say exactly what Magic said and not get a tampering charge even though he also has the title President of Basketball operations? |
Yes, Magic wouldn’t have been fined if not for the Pelinka fine. After that Silver told them no more mentioning player’s names but Magic disobeyed that directive. Minny isn’t under the same microscope. |
Do NBA bylaws allow for the NBA commissioner to provide a disparity in rule enforcement and treatment of individual franchises? Has a 'probationary' period of extra scrutiny been communicated to the Lakers where uneven enforcement of tampering rules will be administered? If not, then this is BS. |
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TooMuchMajicBuss Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:42 am Post subject: |
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All that aside, I think it would be BS if Thibs were fined, just as I think it was petty BS that Magic was fined for complimenting Milwaukee's player.
Context. Magic is a legendary NBA all time great. He was directly asked by a reporter about Giannis. He answers with a compliment to the player and the franchise. He was asked as a former NBA great from whom many have drawn comparison for this player, just as Thibs was asked as a coach.
Calling either of these comments tampering is ludicrous. |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:54 am Post subject: |
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TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | All that aside, I think it would be BS if Thibs were fined, just as I think it was petty BS that Magic was fined for complimenting Milwaukee's player.
Context. Magic is a legendary NBA all time great. He was directly asked by a reporter about Giannis. He answers with a compliment to the player and the franchise. He was asked as a former NBA great from whom many have drawn comparison for this player, just as Thibs was asked as a coach.
Calling either of these comments tampering is ludicrous. |
It doesn’t matter that Magic is a former NBA great if he is now on the front office of an NBA team. Otherwise, no one could tamper. “Oh I was asking if he’d join our team this offseason but in the context of a high school junior which I once was.”
It does matter that Thibs is a coach, and, he was asked within the context of a coach.
If Thibodeau made those comments in a random interview, then, tes, same standard should apply. |
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:33 am Post subject: |
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How many questions has MJ answered about Kobe and LeBron in the last 8 years? Did he get fined once?
Double standard. The hate is real. (bleep) em. (bleep) em all. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:13 am Post subject: |
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rogers49 wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | 32 wrote: | LakerSanity wrote: | Different standard for coaches than front office personnel. |
So Thibodeau can say exactly what Magic said and not get a tampering charge even though he also has the title President of Basketball operations? |
Yes, Magic wouldn’t have been fined if not for the Pelinka fine. After that Silver told them no more mentioning player’s names but Magic disobeyed that directive. Minny isn’t under the same microscope. |
Same words, same fine.
Silver isn't supposed to make differences. |
He does, it is his call. If I tell my kid not to do something and then he does, he is in trouble. All Magic needed to do was shut up, he couldn’t do that. That is why he was fined, from Silver’s own mouth. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Ziggy wrote: | Context is the exact same. Not sure why some are putting so much effort into making it sound like its not. Part of the anti-Magic crowd maybe? Odd. Seems pretty obvious it's a double standard against the Lakers. |
So tell me when Minny was called into the league office after a tampering charge and told not to speak about other players. Apples and oranges, the context is very different. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:18 am Post subject: |
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TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | 32 wrote: | LakerSanity wrote: | Different standard for coaches than front office personnel. |
So Thibodeau can say exactly what Magic said and not get a tampering charge even though he also has the title President of Basketball operations? |
Yes, Magic wouldn’t have been fined if not for the Pelinka fine. After that Silver told them no more mentioning player’s names but Magic disobeyed that directive. Minny isn’t under the same microscope. |
Do NBA bylaws allow for the NBA commissioner to provide a disparity in rule enforcement and treatment of individual franchises? Has a 'probationary' period of extra scrutiny been communicated to the Lakers where uneven enforcement of tampering rules will be administered? If not, then this is BS. |
Yes, not speaking about other team’s players was specifically communicated to the Lakers. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:48 am Post subject: |
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PRLakeShow wrote: | How many questions has MJ answered about Kobe and LeBron in the last 8 years? Did he get fined once?
Double standard. The hate is real. (bleep) em. (bleep) em all. |
Does MJ has Magic's title? |
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