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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:43 am    Post subject: Space Changes your DNA

Astronaut's DNA no longer matches his twin's after a year in space
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/astronaut-dna-no-longer-matches-twin-year-space-article-1.3875535
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:56 am    Post subject:

So that's where aliens come from
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:29 am    Post subject:

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According to some theories, humans were descendants of Martians when Mars became uninhabitable.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:26 am    Post subject:

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According to some theories, humans were descendants of Martians when Mars became uninhabitable.
I'll play along.

So how did some of us martians even know about the earth being a good candidate for Home 2.0?

Then, how did we take off from mars, travel all the miles to earth and land on earth safely? Did anyone die on the way off mars? did anyone die between mars and earth? did anyone die on the landing?

Where are the old spaceships that got us here? what were they made out of?

Did we pull a noah's ark and bring creatures/animals onto the ship in twoozees twoozees(male and female)?

or did we pull a stargate and beam from a pyramid on mars to a pyramid on earth? but who build the pyramid on earth for us to connect to?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:20 am    Post subject:

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lakersken80 wrote:
According to some theories, humans were descendants of Martians when Mars became uninhabitable.
I'll play along.

So how did some of us martians even know about the earth being a good candidate for Home 2.0?

Then, how did we take off from mars, travel all the miles to earth and land on earth safely? Did anyone die on the way off mars? did anyone die between mars and earth? did anyone die on the landing?

Where are the old spaceships that got us here? what were they made out of?

Did we pull a noah's ark and bring creatures/animals onto the ship in twoozees twoozees(male and female)?

or did we pull a stargate and beam from a pyramid on mars to a pyramid on earth? but who build the pyramid on earth for us to connect to?

It's all been answered in Prometheus
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:02 pm    Post subject:

How do we know that the same astronaut came back?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:09 pm    Post subject:

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According to some theories, humans were descendants of Martians when Mars became uninhabitable.


Some people clearly don't understand what a "theory" actually is.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:37 pm    Post subject:

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How do we know that the same astronaut came back?


We have the strictest interplanetary borders and immigration laws in the galaxy.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Space Changes your DNA

splashmtn wrote:
Astronaut's DNA no longer matches his twin's after a year in space
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/astronaut-dna-no-longer-matches-twin-year-space-article-1.3875535


That article is vague and somewhat nonsensical, to the point that I'd guess that it's falling into the common media pitfall of completely misrepresenting what the science actually says. For example:

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Some changes — like the lengthening of Scott’s telomeres, or the endcaps of chromosomes that shorten over time — reversed once he was subject to Earth’s gravity again.


WTF do they mean by that? Telomeres are additional pieces of DNA that don't code for anything. The replication process is imperfect -- it doesn't replicate all the way to the end. It always stops slightly before. Having telomeres ensures that non-coding portions are left off after replication, rather than some of the important stuff. So if you think of it like this, with the DNA followed up by Telomeres:

DNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNATTTTT

Then each successive replication ends up leaving off some of the telomere:

DNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNATTTTT
DNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNATTTT
DNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNATTT
DNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNATT

So when they said his telomeres got longer, what do they mean? That more T's got added to the ends of them? What is the plausible mechanism for the same replication mechanism, which always stops a little short and therefore leaves off a little of the telomere, suddenly not only replicating all the way to the end, but adding additional telomere during a replication? Makes no sense. And then reverting back to normal once he's back to Earth? Again, makes no sense.

And how do they use this toward saying 7% of his DNA was altered? Again, makes no sense.

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But other changes persisted after six months. Researchers found a deficient amount of tissue oxygenation in Scott’s cells, and signs of stress to mitochondria, which transform nutrients into energy, along with increased inflammation.


Again, what's that got to do with DNA being altered?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:10 pm    Post subject:

Here's a theory, the ozone around earth protects us from the comic rays that mutate DNA.

Over time human DNA does morph depending on the surroundings and other facts.

The fact that we started out as like monkey-like creatures and evolved into the glorious human specimens we see on earth today, is surely proof of that...!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:58 pm    Post subject:

The story was reported by multiple outlets. The latest version on yahoo has removed any mention of DNA and added this:
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CORRECTION: A previous version of this story indicated that some of Kelly’s genes had changed. While his genes are the same, some of the gene expression has changed.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:08 pm    Post subject:

Genes before space
Genes after space

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:30 am    Post subject:

JerryMagicKobe wrote:
The story was reported by multiple outlets. The latest version on yahoo has removed any mention of DNA and added this:
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CORRECTION: A previous version of this story indicated that some of Kelly’s genes had changed. While his genes are the same, some of the gene expression has changed.

This is very interesting. The recessive/silent gene (from our ancestors) might be activated. Genes for tail, gills... just crazy. And prolonging the telomere ends... this could slow down aging (I think telomere dictates how many time a cell can replicate itself). I’m prob just to psych waiting for ‘the expanse’ season 3... Belta Lowda!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:50 am    Post subject:

unleasHell wrote:
Here's a theory, the ozone around earth protects us from the comic rays that mutate DNA.


Comic rays are the worst. Always trying to tell jokes when you're not in the mood
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:53 am    Post subject:

splashmtn wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
According to some theories, humans were descendants of Martians when Mars became uninhabitable.
I'll play along.

So how did some of us martians even know about the earth being a good candidate for Home 2.0?

Then, how did we take off from mars, travel all the miles to earth and land on earth safely? Did anyone die on the way off mars? did anyone die between mars and earth? did anyone die on the landing?

Where are the old spaceships that got us here? what were they made out of?

Did we pull a noah's ark and bring creatures/animals onto the ship in twoozees twoozees(male and female)?

or did we pull a stargate and beam from a pyramid on mars to a pyramid on earth? but who build the pyramid on earth for us to connect to?


Stargate got it wrong. The pyramids ARE spaceships.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:57 am    Post subject:

Chronicle wrote:
unleasHell wrote:
Here's a theory, the ozone around earth protects us from the comic rays that mutate DNA.


Comic rays are the worst. Always trying to tell jokes when you're not in the mood


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:04 am    Post subject:

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You can call me Ray


Awesome, I loved that bit...
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unleasHell wrote:
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You can call me Ray


Awesome, I loved that bit...


Comic rays .. triggered my childhood memories of that comedian that got no respect
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:11 am    Post subject:

lakersken80 wrote:
According to some theories, humans were descendants of Martians when Mars became uninhabitable.

Did they um.... destroy all the buildings on Mars or were they all somehow magically underground? How did the last rocket that took off not have its launch pad or supporting structures still in place? Why aren't there mining craters for minerals? Were they ant people and made it ultra efficient since their dawn of time?

Silly stuff...
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tlim wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
According to some theories, humans were descendants of Martians when Mars became uninhabitable.

Did they um.... destroy all the buildings on Mars or were they all somehow magically underground? How did the last rocket that took off not have its launch pad or supporting structures still in place? Why aren't there mining craters for minerals? Were they ant people and made it ultra efficient since their dawn of time?

Silly stuff...


This wasn't a theory put by me. You can just google it. Anyways, when a planet loses its atmosphere and exposed to the vacuum of space, pretty much anything on the surface is irradiated, exposed to the elements of space, bombarded by meteors and asteroids. An asteroid striking a planet without an atmosphere is similar to a nuclear bomb, it will just vaporize everything in its wake. Add that this could possibly happen over thousands or even millions of years, there could be nothing left on the surface. By the way those manmade structures aren't so hardy even on Earth, if you see that nature usually takes over once the humans stop maintaining them.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 11:29 am    Post subject: Re: Space Changes your DNA

LarryCoon wrote:
DNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNADNATTTTT


Is it just me, or did anyone else think that this should be followed by BATMAN!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:00 pm    Post subject:

lakersken80 wrote:
tlim wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
According to some theories, humans were descendants of Martians when Mars became uninhabitable.

Did they um.... destroy all the buildings on Mars or were they all somehow magically underground? How did the last rocket that took off not have its launch pad or supporting structures still in place? Why aren't there mining craters for minerals? Were they ant people and made it ultra efficient since their dawn of time?

Silly stuff...


This wasn't a theory put by me. You can just google it. Anyways, when a planet loses its atmosphere and exposed to the vacuum of space, pretty much anything on the surface is irradiated, exposed to the elements of space, bombarded by meteors and asteroids. An asteroid striking a planet without an atmosphere is similar to a nuclear bomb, it will just vaporize everything in its wake. Add that this could possibly happen over thousands or even millions of years, there could be nothing left on the surface. By the way those manmade structures aren't so hardy even on Earth, if you see that nature usually takes over once the humans stop maintaining them.


Focusing on the lack of remnants on Mars completely misses the biggest flaw in this speculative nonsense (and as I said before, it's not a "theory"). It makes no possible sense that a society advanced enough to completely relocate via interplanetary travel and colonize a planet whose properties are vastly different in regards to life sustaining composition would be successful and yet completely regress to primitive beings who needed to go through the complete cycle of technological advancement from the ground up and leave absolutely no evidence of that previous advanced society.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:02 pm    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
tlim wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
According to some theories, humans were descendants of Martians when Mars became uninhabitable.

Did they um.... destroy all the buildings on Mars or were they all somehow magically underground? How did the last rocket that took off not have its launch pad or supporting structures still in place? Why aren't there mining craters for minerals? Were they ant people and made it ultra efficient since their dawn of time?

Silly stuff...


This wasn't a theory put by me. You can just google it. Anyways, when a planet loses its atmosphere and exposed to the vacuum of space, pretty much anything on the surface is irradiated, exposed to the elements of space, bombarded by meteors and asteroids. An asteroid striking a planet without an atmosphere is similar to a nuclear bomb, it will just vaporize everything in its wake. Add that this could possibly happen over thousands or even millions of years, there could be nothing left on the surface. By the way those manmade structures aren't so hardy even on Earth, if you see that nature usually takes over once the humans stop maintaining them.


Focusing on the lack of remnants on Mars completely misses the biggest flaw in this speculative nonsense (and as I said before, it's not a "theory"). It makes no possible sense that a society advanced enough to completely relocate via interplanetary travel and colonize a planet whose properties are vastly different in regards to life sustaining composition would be successful and yet completely regress to primitive beings who needed to go through the complete cycle of technological advancement from the ground up and leave absolutely no evidence of that previous advanced society.


Some say Mayan and Aztec carvings depicts ‘modern’ technologies
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governator wrote:
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lakersken80 wrote:
tlim wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
According to some theories, humans were descendants of Martians when Mars became uninhabitable.

Did they um.... destroy all the buildings on Mars or were they all somehow magically underground? How did the last rocket that took off not have its launch pad or supporting structures still in place? Why aren't there mining craters for minerals? Were they ant people and made it ultra efficient since their dawn of time?

Silly stuff...


This wasn't a theory put by me. You can just google it. Anyways, when a planet loses its atmosphere and exposed to the vacuum of space, pretty much anything on the surface is irradiated, exposed to the elements of space, bombarded by meteors and asteroids. An asteroid striking a planet without an atmosphere is similar to a nuclear bomb, it will just vaporize everything in its wake. Add that this could possibly happen over thousands or even millions of years, there could be nothing left on the surface. By the way those manmade structures aren't so hardy even on Earth, if you see that nature usually takes over once the humans stop maintaining them.


Focusing on the lack of remnants on Mars completely misses the biggest flaw in this speculative nonsense (and as I said before, it's not a "theory"). It makes no possible sense that a society advanced enough to completely relocate via interplanetary travel and colonize a planet whose properties are vastly different in regards to life sustaining composition would be successful and yet completely regress to primitive beings who needed to go through the complete cycle of technological advancement from the ground up and leave absolutely no evidence of that previous advanced society.


Some say Mayan and Aztec carvings depicts ‘modern’ technologies


They are graphics that some have interpreted to possibly represent technological concepts. There is no evidence of the technology itself being manifested or existing. And still, ignores the problem of an extremely advanced society somehow regressing both biologically and intellectually to extremely primitive forms and somehow progressing back into sentient beings.

Is it conceivable that a technologically advanced society came to the plant millions of years ago and completely disappeared without a verifiable trace? Sure. But that wouldn't make them ascendants of the human race. There'd be no common lineage.
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