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Would you trade Hart and TBryant for DLO if the Nets called in the off season.
Yes!
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No!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:07 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:30 pm    Post subject:

Earlier today I voted yes.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:00 pm    Post subject:

Wouldn't even trade Hart for Russell straight up, let alone throwing Bryant in there. I've said this before, but I was a huge Russell fan while he was here and hated to see him go. However, I'm not overly convinced that he's as driven as he needs to be in order to fulfill his potential. And if that never changes at some point in his career, his ceiling will likely be as a sixth man. I'll take a humble, hardworking guy like Hart who always plays as hard as he can and knows his role ten times out of ten over a player with intriguing potential who isn't truly committed. My doubts about Russell really don't have anything to do with his health.

And to be fair, can the OPís actual question be answered? The question wasnít about how we rate the Russell trade. Itís more of a comparative, hindsight question to gauge the combined value of Hart + Bryant vs Russellís. Thatís it. It muddies the waters of the intended discussion to go into a different direction (i.e. Ďwe canít know if the Russell trade was worth it until we see how free agency plays outí). That wasnít even the question. 2018 free agency aside, would you trade Josh Hart and Thomas Bryant for DíAngelo Russell today if you could? That is the OPís question.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:06 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:35 pm    Post subject:

justsomelakerfan wrote:
Earlier today I voted yes.


That's okay. You have the whole summer to apologize... 😁
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:16 am    Post subject:

I miss DLO and I hope he has a great career in Brooklyn. But it's a no.

Hart's style of play is an ideal fit for our roster.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:17 am    Post subject:

AFireInside619 wrote:
justsomelakerfan wrote:
Earlier today I voted yes.


That's okay. You have the whole summer to apologize... 😁

Pretty much

I wouldn't trade Hart straight up for ANY player on their roster. Although, if they chose to amnesty Lin for some reason, I'd be glad to see him return for PG depth.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:30 am    Post subject:

Easy no for me..
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:40 am    Post subject:

Hart just gives me those Fisher vibes. Not the missed layup or get lit up by Bibby vibe, but he's got that magic and championship intangibles. It really seems to be an extension of his character and the grit he developed from playing under Jay Wright @ Villanova. He's exactly the kind of player you'd want around superstars. Probably the type of guy who would step up in game 3 of the finals, when our superstars are struggling.

As far as Russell - I still maintain he has star (maybe superstar) potential once he figures a few things out. New Jersey is probably the best place for him to maximize his potential.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:59 am    Post subject:

KindCrippler2000 wrote:
Hart just gives me those Fisher vibes. Not the missed layup or get lit up by Bibby vibe, but he's got that magic and championship intangibles. It really seems to be an extension of his character and the grit he developed from playing under Jay Wright @ Villanova. He's exactly the kind of player you'd want around superstars. Probably the type of guy who would step up in game 3 of the finals, when our superstars are struggling.

As far as Russell - I still maintain he has star (maybe superstar) potential once he figures a few things out. New Jersey is probably the best place for him to maximize his potential.


Superstar? Nah
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:32 am    Post subject:

BizLA wrote:
KindCrippler2000 wrote:
Hart just gives me those Fisher vibes. Not the missed layup or get lit up by Bibby vibe, but he's got that magic and championship intangibles. It really seems to be an extension of his character and the grit he developed from playing under Jay Wright @ Villanova. He's exactly the kind of player you'd want around superstars. Probably the type of guy who would step up in game 3 of the finals, when our superstars are struggling.

As far as Russell - I still maintain he has star (maybe superstar) potential once he figures a few things out. New Jersey is probably the best place for him to maximize his potential.


Superstar? Nah

New Jersey?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:36 am    Post subject:

Russell became a cancer to the Lakers, did nothing to help the team win if his 3 point shot wasn't falling.

I'd even hesitate trading Deng for him.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:47 am    Post subject:

diando wrote:
Russell became a cancer to the Lakers, did nothing to help the team win if his 3 point shot wasn't falling.

I'd even hesitate trading Deng for him.


Well I mean, no, because waiving russell would be less of a cap hit than waiving deng... But I get what you mean
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:11 am    Post subject:

diando wrote:
Russell became a cancer to the Lakers, did nothing to help the team win if his 3 point shot wasn't falling.

I'd even hesitate trading Deng for him.


This is the kind of analysis I come to LG to read.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:22 am    Post subject:

Nah. Josh still has a lot to offer us and he's on next to no money for the next 3 years. He affects the game on both sides of the ball, rebounds far better than you can expect a 2 guard to, shoots the 3 at a good clip, finishes well and even past that is a great teammate and pro who knows his role and doesn't try to do more than he knows he can. He's got championship squad player written all over him.

I really liked DLo and was crestfallen when we traded him but with some time passed after the trade I've come to realise whilst DLo can catch fire some games and look like a world beater a lot of the time he's just an inefficient chucker. He's also starting to worry me medically and even more than that you've got to pay the man after next season. Now he won't get a max deal or anything but he's probably still going to be in the 8-10 range depending on how much he balls out in his contract year.

I'm very much at peace with the trade and what we got out of it. I wish DLo well but I don't really feel like we need him back. I think we're good with what we have.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:57 am    Post subject:

diando wrote:
BizLA wrote:
KindCrippler2000 wrote:
Hart just gives me those Fisher vibes. Not the missed layup or get lit up by Bibby vibe, but he's got that magic and championship intangibles. It really seems to be an extension of his character and the grit he developed from playing under Jay Wright @ Villanova. He's exactly the kind of player you'd want around superstars. Probably the type of guy who would step up in game 3 of the finals, when our superstars are struggling.

As far as Russell - I still maintain he has star (maybe superstar) potential once he figures a few things out. New Jersey is probably the best place for him to maximize his potential.


Superstar? Nah

New Jersey?


I still play NBA 2K11. Cut me some slack here.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:18 am    Post subject:

I wasnt sad to see DLO go, his recent play confirmed my suspicions about him

I voted no
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:03 am    Post subject:

I voted No. Hart is already as effective as KCP at 17 Mil less for 4 more years!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:19 am    Post subject:

DLO has a higher upside that's for sure but after this season, you can't ignore his injury history. He can still be like Curry who was also injury prone in the first few years but became a healthy player afterwards.

The answer to this poll depends on what we want to achieve in the next few years. If we add PG13 and LBJ, then Hart's 3&D is what every contender need. If we fail to add stars onto this team, then we should focus on developing one ourselves. In that case, DLO still could be the go-to-guy scorer that we lack. Meanwhile, we will still be having the lottery pick hoping to land another future star player. The truth is 76ers already have 2 all stars in the making. Simmons and Embiid are already star players to me even if they only have limited progression in the future. We just don't have that kind of player yet.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:36 am    Post subject:

When Russell was traded I was perplexed at giving up on a young talent.

I watched a couple Brooklyn games this year and realized he was never going to be a guy to give max effort (or maybe heís but just slow).

He doesnít fit our defensive identity, probably dribbles a bit too much for us, and flat out doesnít look like heís trying as hard as he should. And if he is, then thatís still an issue.

Hart defends at a high level, can hit the 3, and can play alongside anyone because he brings something to the table even if heís not hitting the 3 ball.

I wouldnt trade hart for Russell straight up.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:46 am    Post subject:

KindCrippler2000 wrote:
Hart just gives me those Fisher vibes. Not the missed layup or get lit up by Bibby vibe, but he's got that magic and championship intangibles. It really seems to be an extension of his character and the grit he developed from playing under Jay Wright @ Villanova. He's exactly the kind of player you'd want around superstars. Probably the type of guy who would step up in game 3 of the finals, when our superstars are struggling.

As far as Russell - I still maintain he has star (maybe superstar) potential once he figures a few things out. New Jersey is probably the best place for him to maximize his potential.

comparing Hart to Fisher is selling him waaaay short. He's already better in his rookie year than what Fisher could have ever dreamed of being. I'd say a better comparison would be an prime Ariza with less length and athleticism but much more consistent shooting and ability to create his own shot when needed.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:10 am    Post subject:

Here's a question - if the Nets offered DLo to us for FREE, would you take him?

Stipulation - you have to take him now. Can't wait until after free agency. He'll eat away at our cap space for this upcoming free agency class.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:16 am    Post subject:

And down the drain this thread continues going...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:33 am    Post subject:

audioaxes wrote:
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Hart just gives me those Fisher vibes. Not the missed layup or get lit up by Bibby vibe, but he's got that magic and championship intangibles. It really seems to be an extension of his character and the grit he developed from playing under Jay Wright @ Villanova. He's exactly the kind of player you'd want around superstars. Probably the type of guy who would step up in game 3 of the finals, when our superstars are struggling.

As far as Russell - I still maintain he has star (maybe superstar) potential once he figures a few things out. New Jersey is probably the best place for him to maximize his potential.

comparing Hart to Fisher is selling him waaaay short. He's already better in his rookie year than what Fisher could have ever dreamed of being. I'd say a better comparison would be an prime Ariza with less length and athleticism but much more consistent shooting and ability to create his own shot when needed.


Oh, I think he'll be much better than Fisher and the less athletic Ariza and Wesley Matthews comps are also on point here.

It's Hart's intangibles and championship grit that remind me of Fisher. Keep in mind that Fisher started on 4 different championship squads. Despite not being the most talented or skilled player on the floor, he had a knack for getting the team out of tough situations. His leadership carried us at times. I think Hart can fulfill that role and even more in his prime. He's that guy who can augment BI and Kuz's game the way Fisher did for Kobe.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:40 am    Post subject:

Fisher was an integral piece of 5 Championship Teams.

We don't beat Boston or Orlando for that matter with out him...and he absolutely dismantled the Spurs in 2001.

I can't say that Hart is better than Fish...and why should anyone have to when we can love them both?
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