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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:34 am Post subject: Hypothetical S&T for Kawhi
Could someone please tell me if this is possible under the CBA?
Sign and trade FAs Randle AND Lopez (at ~$16-18M each) along with picks + fillers to acquire Kawhi and Pau from SA. They would probably insist on including Kuzma in any deal, in which case we would want to include Kyle Anderson. Obviously, we’d extend Kawhi with the super max after next season while preserving some cap flexibility with Pau’s expiring deal. (If we pick up Pau’s option in 2019, we could then target Anthony Davis in the summer of ‘20 when Deng’s contract also expires.) Assuming LeBron signs with LA (+ fillers like Seth Curry, Mo Speights):
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:48 am Post subject: Re: Hypothetical S&T for Kawhi
HAWAIIGUY27 wrote:
Could someone please tell me if this is possible under the CBA?
Sign and trade FAs Randle AND Lopez (at ~$16-18M each) along with picks + fillers to acquire Kawhi and Pau from SA. They would probably insist on including Kuzma in any deal, in which case we would want to include Kyle Anderson. Obviously, we’d extend Kawhi with the super max after next season while preserving some cap flexibility with Pau’s expiring deal. (If we pick up Pau’s option in 2019, we could then target Anthony Davis in the summer of ‘20 when Deng’s contract also expires.) Assuming LeBron signs with LA (+ fillers like Seth Curry, Mo Speights):
The trade will be BIngram and future 1st, that it.
And they'll immediately get on the phone with Philly and see about getting Fultz, Saric, and a 1st instead.
Philly could also trade RoCo, who they just signed and they wouldn't need if Kawhi and Lebron were coming.
Boston can easily outbid us too if they want, with a plethora of young pieces and draft picks.
Our best chance is sign and trade Randle (who I think Pop likes), BI (Who I think Pop likes), and a 1st. Pop knows those two from Team USA and there were never reports that Pop got upset at them, unlike a former Laker.
Personally, I'd rather keep both Randle & BI. I know it's a no brained trade for a top 5 player in the league, but I'm very intrigued by what we have with these two.
I think Boston has the pieces to get a S&T done, and I don't want the Lakers cleaning the cupboards trying to compete with their offer. _________________ "It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up."-The Greatest
If KL is completely cleared by doctors my best offer is still BI plus a 1st. I wouldn't give up more than that... I'm sure another team would offer more, but I wouldn't give up any additional pieces.
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:34 am Post subject:
Why should we give up any of our major pieces for a guy we can just sign outright the next year? It's not like we'll be contenders next year anyway...
Though if we sign Paul George this offseason, we'll have a logjam at SF. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
Has never played more than 65 games in a season. Partly due to the conservative Spurs med staff and their "resting protocol", but yeah. AC Green he ain't.
Sign PG. (or not, I'm not as enamored in him as most, I'm cool using the space to get more picks and roll with the same squad next season). Re-sign Randle to a fair deal, keeping flexibility.
If Kawhi is serious about forcing his way to LA, wait for 2019. All young pieces kept, impact players added via Free Agency. Wins all around.
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:17 pm Post subject:
I see 3 options this offseason for the Lakers:
Option 1 - Current Plan
This is the status quo option where Lakers stretch Deng and have the opportunity to sign 2 max free agents. No guarantee LBG, George, or even Cousins takes the Lakers money to come here. We at least keep our young roster intact but might lose the flexibility to resign Randle if another team makes a large offer early in free agency. If we get 2 max free agents early in the offseason, then we let Randle walk.
I do not like this option as I think it will take at least 2 of our young studs (Ball, Ingram, Kuzma) plus a 1st rounder to match other teams best offer. Even if the Lakers did pull it off, they would still have to stretch Deng's contract to sign a 2nd max free agent and we still likely won't have the cap space to retain Randle's bird rights (I haven't done the math but I think it's close). Yes, this would be the best way to guarantee getting a superstar since free agency hasn't been kind to us but I think you give up too much.
Possible Team: Kawhi, PG13, Hart, Kuzma, Zubac, Bryant (assuming Ball and Ingram traded for Kawhi)
Side note - I really hope Clippers don't get Kawhi but an offer of Tobias Harris, #12 pick, #13 pick would be really strong if they are willing to do it.
Option 3 - Trade Deng by attaching Draft Picks
My preferred plan to be completed on draft day. Lakers attach the 2018 25th pick and the 2019 pick (protected 1-5) to Deng's contract to a team that can absorb it (Hawks or Kings are possibilities). This would have to be completed on draft day because we can't trade picks in back to back years so the 2018 pick would have already been selected (Lakers pick the player for the team willing to take on Deng's contract). Lakers free up enough cap space to retain Randle's bird rights to resign him and sign 2 max free agents.
I also prefer option 3 because it leaves us with more assets to trade before the 2019 trade deadline. I can see Lakers combining Randle plus another young player for an all star (Randle plus Ball for John Wall as an example)
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