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lakerlove123
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 Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:09 am Post subject: Positionless basketball? |
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| Lonzo, Josh Hart, Ingram and Randle I would think have solidified their spots. Do you think Magic pitches LeBron as the Center, and Luke pencils him in that way? Would that work? I think it would. It's scary to think about! Randle actually guards the centers, maybe we have a tall backup C for the purpose of guarding other tall Cs if Randle can't handle it. Lonzo and Lebron are the main PGs, with Ingram bringing the ball up at times. Everyone can pass. Talk about Showtime! |
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LBJ as center?
Yeah, that's the easiest way to make sure LBJ doesn't come to the Lakers. 
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:24 am Post subject: |
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There never will be such a thing. The OP mentions positionless basketball then proceeds to post about what positions players will play.
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| I think positionless basketball is over blown as well. Positions are still very important. Lebron seems to only want to play SF |
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| defense wrote: | | I think positionless basketball is over blown as well. Positions are still very important. Lebron seems to only want to play SF |
LBJ is a point forward. Point guard on offense. PF on defense (with Love running the 5). It's a big reason why their defense looks the way it does.
Before the Kardashian curse got him, TT was important for that team. Especially on D. Love is the 2nd worst paint defender in the league at starting Center (behind Jokic). https://on.nba.com/2HfeJle
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centers will become extinct in my lifetime...on the endangered list now .    |
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yinoma2001
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Embiid
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I think the center position is just fine for the next 10 years.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:05 pm Post subject: Position-less lineups vs adaptable rosters |
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6'4" guards (even 6'6" guards) aren't defending 6'9"+ players well very often, nor vice versa. Building a "position-less" ball club is not the main goal because specialty teams with a superstar of great speed or size defeat them too easily. Seek versatility and depth instead, not purely built for interchangeability. Seek to achieve team adaptability so as to handle the presentation of any type of opponent; that is the real goal, I think.
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Switch-ability is more important IMO.
Can your guards get switched to a big and they're ok on a possession?
Can your big switch on a guard and not be embarrassed?
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| VicXLakers wrote: | | centers will become extinct in my lifetime...on the endangered list now . |
Not a chance. Basketball is still a big man's game.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | Embiid
AD
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I think the center position is just fine for the next 10 years. |
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kikanga
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | Embiid
AD
KAT
Jokic
I think the center position is just fine for the next 10 years. |
2 of the 4 worst paint defenders at starting Center in the league.
I won't vouch for either 1 of them. The position is too important defensively.
Same goes for Kanter.
Prefer young guys like Myles Turner, Capela and Nurkic. Even Poeltl.
Ayton and Bagley will be interesting as well.
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| kikanga wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Embiid
AD
KAT
Jokic
I think the center position is just fine for the next 10 years. |
2 of the 5 worst paint defenders at starting Center in the league.
I won't vouch for either 1 of them. The position is too important defensively.
Same goes for Kanter.
Prefer young guys like Myles Turner, Capela and Nurkic. Even Poeltl.
Ayton and Bagley will be interesting as well. |
Yes, that is true. Lots of guys.
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| VicXLakers wrote: | | centers will become extinct in my lifetime...on the endangered list now . |
After watching Embiid during the Lakers-76ers game in LA, I thought to myself that Embiid in his prime may bring back the center position. If Embiid stays healthy and reaches his peak, there’s no way teams can go small with him on the floor. They will have to have a big man with size and mobility to match up. |
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| As of right now, I think Randle might be our starting center, or at least playt a lot of center minutes. Rim protection is still important, but with all the perimeter play, a center like Randle that could step out there and defend is a great asset. |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Embiid
AD
KAT
Jokic
I think the center position is just fine for the next 10 years. |
2 of the 5 worst paint defenders at starting Center in the league.
I won't vouch for either 1 of them. The position is too important defensively.
Same goes for Kanter.
Prefer young guys like Myles Turner, Capela and Nurkic. Even Poeltl.
Ayton and Bagley will be interesting as well. |
Yes, that is true. Lots of guys. |
Yeah, Kat looks awful & slow & awfully slow these days. He's single handedly turning an under-rated draft class into an over-rated one. And don't get me started on his running mate Wiggins. They are in the playoffs, but unless those guys work on their all-around game, our young guys will surpass them in the next few seasons. |
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AFireInside619
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| scoobs wrote: | | As of right now, I think Randle might be our starting center, or at least playt a lot of center minutes. Rim protection is still important, but with all the perimeter play, a center like Randle that could step out there and defend is a great asset. |
When motivated, no guard not named Kyrie or Steph is gonna get around Randle. And definitely not Wall. |
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| In whattt world does Lebron play a bigger position than Randle? |
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splashmtn
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: Positionless basketball? |
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| lakerlove123 wrote: | | Lonzo, Josh Hart, Ingram and Randle I would think have solidified their spots. Do you think Magic pitches LeBron as the Center, and Luke pencils him in that way? Would that work? I think it would. It's scary to think about! Randle actually guards the centers, maybe we have a tall backup C for the purpose of guarding other tall Cs if Randle can't handle it. Lonzo and Lebron are the main PGs, with Ingram bringing the ball up at times. Everyone can pass. Talk about Showtime! |
It's not that everyone can pass. everyone can actually dribble well.
randle aint no slouch with his handles, especially to be a PF/C.
That would be a nighmare to guard, especially if randle & Zo purchased a pack of offseason jump shots.  |
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Great! Another one of these threads...just read the signature... 
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Imo, the idea of positionless basketball is that, with the right players, it can be done in spurts. That’s it.
Instead, fans pretty much use it as a go to response whenever they want to fulfill an acquisition fantasy that results in too many players at the same position.
And thats how it became a thing. |
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Versatility is certainly good. I do like ball movement and versatility.
That said,I agree with a lot of posters here you can't expect height and reach to suddenly not matter. |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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What people are not understanding is that if we start lebron at C there is no coach in the NBA who would put their regular center on him. They will be forced to start guys like draymond etc who are small ball centers.
I would love to trade everyone except kuz and ingram and get this team together
Ingram
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kawhi
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everyone has to guard the center |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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When i play at the gym they like play position less bball.
The guy who can't dribble is the pg
The tallest guy shoots nothing but 3s
The fat guy has the most energy
The girl is the most physical |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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I think people mistake what position less basketball means...
its less about where you're slotted on the roster, and more about having a what would be considered "center" who can be an elite shooter, a "PF" who can be your play maker, a "PG" who can be a utility guy, and wings who can just do what ever-- or whatever.
essentially, anyone can do anything |
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