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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:17 pm    Post subject:

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^ The team as constructed is equipped to do that with as many ball handlers / facilitators as it has.

One thing that people forget is the Lakers were competitive in a lot of games.. they just lacked a closer. Factor in an additional year of development for the young core PLUS the ultimate closer in LeBron James and you've put yourself in a very good situation.

LeBron James isn't going to have to do *everything* in order to be competitive on this team as he was on the Cavaliers.


exactly.and i hope so.
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Boston werent that good. they only won 1 playoff game on road vs Sixers. they were taken to 7 by Milwaukee. Won less regular season games then Toronto too.
Kawhi makes big difference for Toronto. Bigger difference then what Kyrie will give to Boston.

Gordon Hayward career is probably done, dude just had second surgery too.

Second surgery??


Yep In MARCH I think. https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nba/celtics/2018/06/27/boston-celtics-gordon-hayward-surgery-progress/738043002/


March too? That's three surgeries in less than a year. October, March, May.
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Raptors will probably make the finals next year, you just have celtics with small edge on them.Sixers vastly overrated, great young talent but not ready yet.
I think we should move on from Kawhi. If Raptors make finals, he stays there.


They aren't going to the finals.


agreed. i think it's boston/golden state


if Kawhi is healthy, and playing as he has in the past....my money would be on Toronto to come out of the East.
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Boston werent that good. they only won 1 playoff game on road vs Sixers. they were taken to 7 by Milwaukee. Won less regular season games then Toronto too.
Kawhi makes big difference for Toronto. Bigger difference then what Kyrie will give to Boston.

Gordon Hayward career is probably done, dude just had second surgery too.

Second surgery??


Yep In MARCH I think. https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nba/celtics/2018/06/27/boston-celtics-gordon-hayward-surgery-progress/738043002/


March too? That's three surgeries in less than a year. October, March, May.

I'm no doctor, but that seems concerning.
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The lakers shouldn’t wait til free agency to get KL because what if during next year’s FA KD decides he wants to join the lakers, if that happens we may missed out on signing KL because we won’t have the cap space.
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Now I really will disengage.


you have literally moved the goal posts three times....and I never engaged....it was you that chimed in to my post.....2 other posters have responded to you laying out factual information....and I noticed you failed to respond to either of them. The truth is I have been involved in several worker comp claims as an executive representing the company....and mostly taken losses which is not different than most in my position....but that has nothing to do with operating within a collective bargaining agreement. The facts are there are procedures within the collective bargaining agreement to remedy a situation where a player may be falsely claiming injury to avoid performing within their contract, and Kawhi would be making a poor choice to test those procedures even if he thinks the odds are in his favor (if he is healthy), because he has far more to lose. If you believe otherwise....I am good with that.
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Have we forgotten how good Kyrie is? The same Kyrie that hit a dagger in game 7 of the finals on Curry to win the series after going down 3-1? Boston can switch on every defensive play, and they have their closer back. If you double Kyrie, Tatum will exploit the rest of the defense. Kawhi is a great player, but let's remember the rest of the Raptors roster have to play too.
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Have we forgotten how good Kyrie is? The same Kyrie that hit a dagger in game 7 of the finals on Curry to win the series after going down 3-1? Boston can switch on every defensive play, and they have their closer back. If you double Kyrie, Tatum will exploit the rest of the defense. Kawhi is a great player, but let's remember the rest of the Raptors roster have to play too.


Kyrie in a switching defense....there is your weakness....that can be exploited all night. The Raptors can put out a closing lineup of Lowry, Leonard, Anunoby, Siakam, and Ibaka.....or Lowry, Green, Leonard, Anunoby, and Siakam....neither of which will be easy to score on....
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Now I really will disengage.


you have literally moved the goal posts three times....and I never engaged....it was you that chimed in to my post.....2 other posters have responded to you laying out factual information....and I noticed you failed to respond to either of them. The truth is I have been involved in several worker comp claims as an executive representing the company....and mostly taken losses which is not different than most in my position....but that has nothing to do with operating within a collective bargaining agreement. The facts are there are procedures within the collective bargaining agreement to remedy a situation where a player may be falsely claiming injury to avoid performing within their contract, and Kawhi would be making a poor choice to test those procedures even if he thinks the odds are in his favor (if he is healthy), because he has far more to lose. If you believe otherwise....I am good with that.





The medical, CBA and related is important, but this is going to be a contract season for Leonard. I am neither a medical or legal person, but I do consider myself a very logical person.

From my earlier post today is what I consider to be a very important issue in regards to whether Leonard will use medical concerns as an excuse to sit out this season in protest of not being dealt to the Lakers.

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If Leonard is unable to pass a physical in a few months and the 2018 - 19 season is again a nothing for him, what are his chances of signing a 30% max contract next summer with the Lakers or Clippers?



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Season...........Games Played
2017 - 18............9
2018 - 19...........20 or less




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The NBA has secured league-wide temporary total disability insurance coverage for the benefit of its member teams. Every team in the league is required to participate in the program, which covers approximately 150 players per season.

That the league-wide program is mandatory is done for a key reason: Doing so allows the insurance provider to mitigate its risk, more accurately project potential claims, feel confident it is not being asked to provide coverage for only the most injury-prone players and, ultimately, reduce the cost of coverage and make it more affordable.

Such a program is possible only in a highly regulated environment like that in the NBA, where individual payouts are limited by maximum salary rules and teams are required to spend at least 90 percent of the salary cap each season on player salaries.

Under the terms of the NBA’s insurance program, each team is required to submit for underwriting consideration five players, each of whom must be among the team’s five highest-paid players based on either the current season or total remaining salary. Teams may submit for consideration more than five players if they so choose.

Among the five contracts required to be submitted per team, the insurance provider has the right to exclude from coverage 14 per season (such as when it considers a player with a very large remaining contract to be a medical risk) and well as in limited circumstances to offer coverage to players with exclusions for pre-existing conditions. However, once a player is covered, the carrier can’t exclude the player for the remainder of his current contract.

As with any insurance, there is a premium that must be paid in order to have the coverage in place. Those amounts are customized to each player, and generally cost about 4 percent of a player’s salary.


If I am working for the insurance provider and Leonard plays 20 games or less in the 2018 - 19 season, Kawhi signed to a multi year max deal next summer is one of the contracts that I am going to either exclude from covering or will put protections in for existing conditions such as the leg problems.

Will Magic be able to justify giving a max contract to Leonard or is he going to have second thoughts?

Will Leonard be able to get major advertising /endorsement deals if he is unable to secure a max contract in LA next summer?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:03 pm    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
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Have we forgotten how good Kyrie is? The same Kyrie that hit a dagger in game 7 of the finals on Curry to win the series after going down 3-1? Boston can switch on every defensive play, and they have their closer back. If you double Kyrie, Tatum will exploit the rest of the defense. Kawhi is a great player, but let's remember the rest of the Raptors roster have to play too.


Kyrie in a switching defense....there is your weakness....that can be exploited all night. The Raptors can put out a closing lineup of Lowry, Leonard, Anunoby, Siakam, and Ibaka.....or Lowry, Green, Leonard, Anunoby, and Siakam....neither of which will be easy to score on....


They had the best defense in the league with Kyrie.

The Warriors with Steph for that matter.
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Have we forgotten how good Kyrie is? The same Kyrie that hit a dagger in game 7 of the finals on Curry to win the series after going down 3-1? Boston can switch on every defensive play, and they have their closer back. If you double Kyrie, Tatum will exploit the rest of the defense. Kawhi is a great player, but let's remember the rest of the Raptors roster have to play too.


Kyrie in a switching defense....there is your weakness....that can be exploited all night. The Raptors can put out a closing lineup of Lowry, Leonard, Anunoby, Siakam, and Ibaka.....or Lowry, Green, Leonard, Anunoby, and Siakam....neither of which will be easy to score on....


They had the best defense in the league with Kyrie.

The Warriors with Steph for that matter.


You are referring to Boston last season in the regular season? I could be mistaken, but I do not recall Boston switching on defense routinely during the regular season.....and the playoffs is when teams really being seeking and exploiting the mismatches created by switching.

Even if you look at Kyrie's defensive numbers last year....Boston was significantly worse on defense with Kyrie on the floor, by over 4 points per 100 possessions. Kyrie is a defensive liability....maybe not to the extent Steph has been a few times in the playoffs, but his teams are almost always worse on defense with him on the court.
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Boston werent that good. they only won 1 playoff game on road vs Sixers. they were taken to 7 by Milwaukee. Won less regular season games then Toronto too.
Kawhi makes big difference for Toronto. Bigger difference then what Kyrie will give to Boston.

Gordon Hayward career is probably done, dude just had second surgery too.

Second surgery??


Yep In MARCH I think. https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nba/celtics/2018/06/27/boston-celtics-gordon-hayward-surgery-progress/738043002/


ouch!!
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Boston werent that good. they only won 1 playoff game on road vs Sixers. they were taken to 7 by Milwaukee. Won less regular season games then Toronto too.
Kawhi makes big difference for Toronto. Bigger difference then what Kyrie will give to Boston.

Gordon Hayward career is probably done, dude just had second surgery too.

Second surgery??


Yep In MARCH I think. https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nba/celtics/2018/06/27/boston-celtics-gordon-hayward-surgery-progress/738043002/


ouch!!


Read the article. It seems like the second surgery was just to reduce pain caused by the first surgery. Seems they inserted something during the first surgery which was the culprit.

The article doesn't give me cause to believe that Hayward is done, he just seems to be experiencing discomfort as a result of the initial surgery and this discomfort can be treated through another surgery. It's a procedure to correct a side effect of the initial surgery rather than an actual setback to his recovery.
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KingJames wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
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Boston werent that good. they only won 1 playoff game on road vs Sixers. they were taken to 7 by Milwaukee. Won less regular season games then Toronto too.
Kawhi makes big difference for Toronto. Bigger difference then what Kyrie will give to Boston.

Gordon Hayward career is probably done, dude just had second surgery too.

Second surgery??


Yep In MARCH I think. https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nba/celtics/2018/06/27/boston-celtics-gordon-hayward-surgery-progress/738043002/


ouch!!


Read the article. It seems like the second surgery was just to reduce pain caused by the first surgery. Seems they inserted something during the first surgery which was the culprit.

The article doesn't give me cause to believe that Hayward is done, he just seems to be experiencing discomfort as a result of the initial surgery and this discomfort can be treated through another surgery. It's a procedure to correct a side effect of the initial surgery rather than an actual setback to his recovery.


I had the exact same injury (mine was actually worse) and follow up surgeries. I was also 20 plus years older than Gordan. To say his career is done is FAR from accurate.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:38 am    Post subject:

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Now I really will disengage.


you have literally moved the goal posts three times....and I never engaged....it was you that chimed in to my post.....2 other posters have responded to you laying out factual information....and I noticed you failed to respond to either of them. The truth is I have been involved in several worker comp claims as an executive representing the company....and mostly taken losses which is not different than most in my position....but that has nothing to do with operating within a collective bargaining agreement. The facts are there are procedures within the collective bargaining agreement to remedy a situation where a player may be falsely claiming injury to avoid performing within their contract, and Kawhi would be making a poor choice to test those procedures even if he thinks the odds are in his favor (if he is healthy), because he has far more to lose. If you believe otherwise....I am good with that.


I moved goal post three times? - Now with this accusation you are really engaging me.

1. I have stated that no independent Physician will certify that Kawhi is, indeed, fit to play as ALL NBA players have nagging problems. I am still pretty confident in that.
2. I have asked you to show me anything in the CBA that will make Kawhi play because team's doctors say he is good to go while certified MD specialist he is using (as a second opinion) says he is not. I am still standing by my assertion of Kawhi being able to use that as a second opinion (and Bard, one of the posters you mentioned that replied to me with factual info, was kind enough to provide you actual CBA clauses). To which you replied with a quote from the article where (whoever written it) uses some "neutral physician" medical opinion to make him play. Needless to say - you bet on the wrong horse as information from that article has nothing to do with CBA.
3. Both of the posters you've mentioned quote for both of us Fitness to Play Panel. I put for you some details on how this panel is being formed as a reason I have never considered it being a tool that will make any player play based on that.

So, was it me moving the goal post from
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if the "neutral physician" report states that he is healthy enough to honor the contract, then he can play or incur the consequences discussed in Article XI of the CBA which include fines up to his salary, and unable to become a FA until Toronto releases him.
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Kawhi would be making a poor choice to test those procedures even if he thinks the odds are in his favor (if he is healthy), because he has far more to lose.


BTW - your last assertion I agree with (partially). Not sure why you decided not to mention that the Raptors don't want to test that system either - both sides have too much to lose.

In any case - your main claim to fame is
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The facts are there are procedures within the collective bargaining agreement to remedy a situation where a player may be falsely claiming injury to avoid performing within their contract
. All I said from the very beginning of this discussion: ANY NBA player has nagging injuries. Procedures you're referring to MIGHT be able to address some extremely obvious cases but will not be effective, similar to worker comp cases you participated in and settled. As a matter of fact, the way Fitness to Play Panel is formed makes it even less likely to prevail, IMHO...
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:47 am    Post subject:

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The lakers shouldn’t wait til free agency to get KL because what if during next year’s FA KD decides he wants to join the lakers, if that happens we may missed out on signing KL because we won’t have the cap space.


if KD decides he wants to come here, there is no discussion with Kawhi to be had.... KD ain't leaving though.

Butler or Kawhi next summer
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Have we forgotten how good Kyrie is? The same Kyrie that hit a dagger in game 7 of the finals on Curry to win the series after going down 3-1? Boston can switch on every defensive play, and they have their closer back. If you double Kyrie, Tatum will exploit the rest of the defense. Kawhi is a great player, but let's remember the rest of the Raptors roster have to play too.


Kyrie in a switching defense....there is your weakness....that can be exploited all night. The Raptors can put out a closing lineup of Lowry, Leonard, Anunoby, Siakam, and Ibaka.....or Lowry, Green, Leonard, Anunoby, and Siakam....neither of which will be easy to score on....


They had the best defense in the league with Kyrie.

The Warriors with Steph for that matter.


You are referring to Boston last season in the regular season? I could be mistaken, but I do not recall Boston switching on defense routinely during the regular season.....and the playoffs is when teams really being seeking and exploiting the mismatches created by switching.

Even if you look at Kyrie's defensive numbers last year....Boston was significantly worse on defense with Kyrie on the floor, by over 4 points per 100 possessions. Kyrie is a defensive liability....maybe not to the extent Steph has been a few times in the playoffs, but his teams are almost always worse on defense with him on the court.


I love Kyrie, but his health is an issue. Too many missed games over the years for a 26 year old. Take a look at his year by year games played:

2012: 51 (66 game lockout season)
2013: 59
2014: 71
2015: 75
2016: 53
2017: 72
2018: 60

Discounting the lockout season, that's an average 65 games played, having sat out a finals appearance in 2015 and an entire playoffs in 2018.
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Raptors will probably make the finals next year, you just have celtics with small edge on them.Sixers vastly overrated, great young talent but not ready yet.
I think we should move on from Kawhi. If Raptors make finals, he stays there.


They aren't going to the finals.


agreed. i think it's boston/golden state


if Kawhi is healthy, and playing as he has in the past....my money would be on Toronto to come out of the East.


Without Lebron, Toronto is gonna win the East easily but that doesn't mean Kawhi would stay with them. Kawhi probably knows it, too. Philly would be like their best competition.
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Boston werent that good. they only won 1 playoff game on road vs Sixers. they were taken to 7 by Milwaukee. Won less regular season games then Toronto too.
Kawhi makes big difference for Toronto. Bigger difference then what Kyrie will give to Boston.

Gordon Hayward career is probably done, dude just had second surgery too.

Second surgery??


Yep In MARCH I think. https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nba/celtics/2018/06/27/boston-celtics-gordon-hayward-surgery-progress/738043002/


March too? That's three surgeries in less than a year. October, March, May.

I'm no doctor, but that seems concerning.


None of it is ideal but the March and June surgeries weren't reconstructive. Just for discomfort and the removal of hardware which (like Kyrie) was gonna have to happen eventually. The most important element for Hayward was no tissue or ligament damage, just a broken ankle. When a bone heals, it's healed.


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Kawhi Leonard is -500 right now to be traded by the trade deadline.
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Kawhi Leonard is -500 right now to be traded by the trade deadline.


do they have a line for being traded before camp?
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Kawhi Leonard is -500 right now to be traded by the trade deadline.


do they have a line for being traded before camp?


No just trade deadline.
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Kawhi Leonard is -500 right now to be traded by the trade deadline.


do they have a line for being traded before camp?


No just trade deadline.


wow! I guess - they don't believe he is going to finish the season there.

I am not into betting - but my understanding is that you'd have to bet $500 to win $100, correct?
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KingJames wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
KingJames wrote:
Boston werent that good. they only won 1 playoff game on road vs Sixers. they were taken to 7 by Milwaukee. Won less regular season games then Toronto too.
Kawhi makes big difference for Toronto. Bigger difference then what Kyrie will give to Boston.

Gordon Hayward career is probably done, dude just had second surgery too.

Second surgery??


Yep In MARCH I think. https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nba/celtics/2018/06/27/boston-celtics-gordon-hayward-surgery-progress/738043002/


ouch!!


Read the article. It seems like the second surgery was just to reduce pain caused by the first surgery. Seems they inserted something during the first surgery which was the culprit.

The article doesn't give me cause to believe that Hayward is done, he just seems to be experiencing discomfort as a result of the initial surgery and this discomfort can be treated through another surgery. It's a procedure to correct a side effect of the initial surgery rather than an actual setback to his recovery.


I had the exact same injury (mine was actually worse) and follow up surgeries. I was also 20 plus years older than Gordan. To say his career is done is FAR from accurate.


Thanks Vanquish and RILaker.. i assume RILaker you're back in full force?

As for Gordon Hayword's team, I can now say, "Couldn't have happened to a better franchise"
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Kawhi Leonard is -500 right now to be traded by the trade deadline.


do they have a line for being traded before camp?


No just trade deadline.


wow! I guess - they don't believe he is going to finish the season there.

I am not into betting - but my understanding is that you'd have to bet $500 to win $100, correct?


Correct. I will keep an eye on it.
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