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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | The Juggernaut wrote: | | Kawhi will probably sign a 2 year deal in Toronto so that he can hit free agency again for a 10 veteran MAX contract. |
man's legs falling apart. he ain't taking no short deal |
There's already been rumbling of that. Kawhi with load management will still be top 5 at the age of 29. The 10 year max is a SIGNIFICANT boost in money. Uncle Dennis ain't stupid and Kawhi isnt thinking about his career ending in 2 years yal are trippin  |
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Arbitrary
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I think the Clippers' odds are that high because of cap space clarity. At the moment, people are hammering our team over the small chance we have to get another superstar because of the other steps we have to take to get there.
Meanwhile, the Clippers are the other LA (which Kawhi has an affinity for) team that can sign him outright for the max.
Perceptions should change once more information gets leaked around the end of the month. |
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The problem with the Clippers scenario is, who do they pair him with? KD and Klay are out. Kyrie seems Brooklyn-bound. Kemba doesn't move the needle enough and they're kind of set at guard. I don't see him going to the Clippers by himself. That's not a better scenario for him than he has in Toronto.
Remember, when the drama started in San Antonio, Kawhi's mission was to get here and join LeBron. I don't think that's going to change a year later, when you now add AD to the mix. It just doesn't make sense from a basketball standpoint to leave the situation he has in Toronto for the Clippers. I think it's all smoke. |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Username wrote: | The problem with the Clippers scenario is, who do they pair him with? KD and Klay are out. Kyrie seems Brooklyn-bound. Kemba doesn't move the needle enough and they're kind of set at guard. I don't see him going to the Clippers by himself. That's not a better scenario for him than he has in Toronto.
Remember, when the drama started in San Antonio, Kawhi's mission was to get here and join LeBron. I don't think that's going to change a year later, when you now add AD to the mix. It just doesn't make sense from a basketball standpoint to leave the situation he has in Toronto for the Clippers. I think it's all smoke. |
Friday I thought there was so much talk about AD that it wouldn't happen and it did...so clearly I know nothing.
But why should not knowing ish stop me from acting like I do...
KL stayes in Toronto or leaves for Lakers...these are his only real options. Clippers would have to get a superstar their in the first place to be even remotely attractive.
But that being said KL is a different dude and I love him if only for sticking it to Pop.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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| CervantesRises wrote: | | Username wrote: | The problem with the Clippers scenario is, who do they pair him with? KD and Klay are out. Kyrie seems Brooklyn-bound. Kemba doesn't move the needle enough and they're kind of set at guard. I don't see him going to the Clippers by himself. That's not a better scenario for him than he has in Toronto.
Remember, when the drama started in San Antonio, Kawhi's mission was to get here and join LeBron. I don't think that's going to change a year later, when you now add AD to the mix. It just doesn't make sense from a basketball standpoint to leave the situation he has in Toronto for the Clippers. I think it's all smoke. |
Friday I thought there was so much talk about AD that it wouldn't happen and it did...so clearly I know nothing.
But why should not knowing ish stop me from acting like I do...
KL stayes in Toronto or leaves for Lakers...these are his only real options. Clippers would have to get a superstar their in the first place to be even remotely attractive.
But that being said KL is a different dude and I love him if only for sticking it to Pop. |
And what sticks it to Pop the most? Let's go over the 3 realistic options:
1) Toronto, the team that the Spurs traded him to instead of to LA, meaning that he did not get what he wanted
2) Clippers, a team which is the other team in Los Angeles and is not the Lakers
3) Lakers |
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JJLakers
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FU #2 Coward/Traitor.
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LakersMD
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| JJLakers wrote: | | If we offer him a long term 10 year deal with guarantees, we will get our man. I read that June 30 will be day of our meeting with him. Lebron-Kobe-Shaq-AD all in the same room with Kawhi to convince him to play for the lakers. Lets make this into a reality, and the start of a new dynasty. This will be like Jordan/Bulls. The excitement and world attention will be insane. |
Welcome to the board.
10 year contracts are not allowed under the CBA. |
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https://sports.yahoo.com/leonard-quiet-future-raptors-celebrate-070852533.html
Before stepping on stage Monday for a ceremony in the square outside Toronto's City Hall, Leonard said he hasn't been thinking about his future. Instead, he's trying to extend the celebratory vibe as long as possible.
"I'm enjoying this" he said. "It's not time to stress, it's still time to have some fun. I've just been enjoying my experience."
After precisely two months of playoff basketball, Leonard doesn't have a lot of time left to be a fun guy — free agency gets underway at 6 p.m. on June 30.
"I'm going to take the right time," he said. "You don't need too many days to figure it out. We'll see what happens. Once that time comes, then we'll all lay the pros and cons out."
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JJLakers
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LakersMD
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| JJLakers wrote: | | LakersMD wrote: | | 10 year contracts are not allowed under the CBA. |
I'm pretty sure there are ways to make it equivalent to a ten year deal. Example: two 4-year deals and options for extensions and guarantees. The point is long term deal is the key. I hope we make it happen. |
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You should read Larry Coon’s CBA FAQ. |
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Arbitrary
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| JJLakers wrote: | | LakersMD wrote: | | You should read Larry Coon’s CBA FAQ. |
Interesting read. I probably need a few days to go over it when i have the time. I'm no expert on this stuff.
All i'am saying is Lakers can give kawhi a long term financial security if we make offers that includes and takes into consideration the long term aspect, that he will play for the lakers and retire a laker, and that we will take care of him financially and health wise short term and long term. If so then we will be in a good position to get him. Lakers will be giving him alot of money well into his mid 30's that probably no one else will and we will be still winning championships with kawhi. 
I'm very optimistic we will get him, because i have no doubt he wants to be a laker. |
Salary-wise, Leonard might want to get a shorter deal (2+1) with us, so he can opt out to get the 35% max when he's at his 10th year in the league.
We have every financial incentive as a global brand. I'm sure New Balance knows this and so does Leonard and his family.
He'll crack top 10 on the jersey sales easily once he signs with us.
But not everything will be financially motivated especially for an enigmatic character such as Leonard.
This is where the FA meeting becomes immensely relevant for us. Until then, all we have will be rumors and leaks.
We really just have to wait. |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:01 am Post subject: |
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| JJLakers wrote: | | LakersMD wrote: | | You should read Larry Coon’s CBA FAQ. |
Interesting read. I probably need a few days to go over it when i have the time. I'm no expert on this stuff.
All i'am saying is Lakers can give kawhi a long term financial security if we make offers that includes and takes into consideration the long term aspect, that he will play for the lakers and retire a laker, and that we will take care of him financially and health wise short term and long term. If so then we will be in a good position to get him. Lakers will be giving him alot of money well into his mid 30's that probably no one else will and we will be still winning championships with kawhi.
I'm very optimistic we will get him, because i have no doubt he wants to be a laker. |
That's not permitted because of the CBA. No promises of future money or financial deals outside of a players contract. |
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| LakersMD wrote: | | JJLakers wrote: | | LakersMD wrote: | | 10 year contracts are not allowed under the CBA. |
I'm pretty sure there are ways to make it equivalent to a ten year deal. Example: two 4-year deals and options for extensions and guarantees. The point is long term deal is the key. I hope we make it happen. |
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You should read Larry Coon’s CBA FAQ. |
10 year max’s are higher. Not 10 year max contract. Sign a 1+1 then a new max. |
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| I think some of you are confusing max $ for a player that has played at least 10 years vs a 10 yr contract of max $ which don't exist |
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Super Mega Team
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| governator wrote: | | I think some of you are confusing max $ for a player that has played at least 10 years vs a 10 yr contract of max $ which don't exist |
That is exactly it. This isn’t baseball. |
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Cris Carter yesterday said that Kawhi would take a meeting with 5 teams including Lakers.
Woj today saying Kawhi may not even take a meeting with Lakers, what a hater.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:21 am Post subject: |
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| now that woj wrote it, i m more confident about our chances. |
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| greek laker wrote: | | now that woj wrote it, i m more confident about our chances. |
lol, suck it Aing... I mean Woj |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:26 am Post subject: |
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| greek laker wrote: | | now that woj wrote it, i m more confident about our chances. |
This is a very real chance of a new dynasty, and Kawhi can help make that happen. Its hard to pass up to go to a team across the street who is rebuilding and always in the shadow of the Lakers.
Even if he joins the Clips, Lakers have better chance to win.
If he does not stay with Raptors, he'll be a Laker. Boooook it!
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| At this point, I'm convinced Woj is just Popovich in disguise |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:35 am Post subject: |
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| There will be a meeting. Pretty clown stuff from Woj tbh. |
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| Damn WOJ stays hating lol Kawhi is a difficult guy to read, who knows what he wants but with it does seem he’s wishy washy on to commit to Toronto. Like some have said the clippers talk I don’t believe, even a little bit. Jmo after meetings and all that is done it will be between lakers and raptors |
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| Daphanabe wrote: | | epak wrote: | I wonder what Lerbon would say if Kawhi says he wants to play the 3.
I'd actually want LeBron to play the 3 and find a garbage man 4/5. And Kawhi at the 2. |
Definitely on offense. On defense - You think Kawhi is best served running around chasing many of the killer SGs (e.g. Klay, Harden, etc.)? |
I'm not sure if that's worse. Of if Lebron guarding 4s is worse.
Harden doesn't run around off ball much.
I'll give you Klay.
But besides Klay, who else is a killer SG that runs around offball? |
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