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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 1:38 pm    Post subject:

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One small simple question.

Does NBA test 4 steroids?


Jody Meeks says yes


Lebron says no.

And to be fair, curious why Kobe needed yearly trips to Germany for miraculous knee treatments?

Lakers need to be patient and damned certain before “trading” for Leonard. While I agree he has an impressive resume, they have to make sure he still is or can still be that same player. IMO it is too big a risk to hope he can be. They have to know it is not recurring and he is never the same player again.


sure they have a Ray Donovan, Olivia Pope or a Wags on the payroll to find the truth in these matters.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 1:49 pm    Post subject:

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Chad09 wrote:
The only larger markets are LA, NY.


Philly is #4 which is massive compared to little old San Antonio


Houston fans had me believing they were the 4th largest market, especially when they got Dwight. Cue LG Memeber "dreamshake" in 3, 2, 1...


Houston is 4th, Philly is 5th

The list according to Nielsen (the Nielsen Ratings people) - this list has been pretty consistent for several years now.

Rank Designated Market Area (DMA) TV Homes % of US
1 New York 7,348,620 6.407
2 Los Angeles 5,476,830 4.775
3 Chicago 3,463,060 3.019
4 Philadelphia 2,942,800 2.566
5 Dallas-Ft. Worth 2,713,380 2.366
6 San Francisco-Oak-San Jose 2,488,090 2.169
7 Washington, DC (Hagrstwn) 2,476,680 2.159
8 Houston 2,450,800 2.137
9 Boston (Manchester) 2,424,240 2.114
10 Atlanta 2,412,730 2.104
11 Tampa-St. Pete (Sarasota) 1,908,590 1.664
12 Phoenix (Prescott) 1,890,100 1.648
13 Detroit 1,853,030 1.616
14 Seattle-Tacoma 1,808,530 1.577
15 Minneapolis-St. Paul 1,742,530 1.519
16 Miami-Ft. Lauderdale 1,696,330 1.479
17 Denver 1,630,380 1.422
18 Orlando-Daytona Bch-Melbrn 1,519,570 1.325
19 Cleveland-Akron (Canton) 1,498,960 1.307
20 Sacramnto-Stkton-Modesto 1,379,770 1.203
21 St. Louis 1,215,570 1.06
22 Charlotte 1,189,950 1.038
23 Pittsburgh 1,160,220 1.012
24 Raleigh-Durham (Fayetvlle) 1,153,580 1.006
25 Portland, OR 1,143,670 0.997
26 Baltimore 1,119,480 0.976
27 Indianapolis 1,086,310 0.947
28 San Diego 1,065,700 0.929
29 Nashville 1,011,570 0.882
30 Hartford & New Haven 963,950 0.84
31 San Antonio 938,660 0.818
32 Columbus, OH 920,740 0.803
33 Kansas City 919,020 0.801
34 Salt Lake City 916,960 0.799
35 Milwaukee 895,700 0.781
36 Cincinnati 863,800 0.753
37 Greenvll-Spart-Ashevll-And 845,990 0.738
38 West Palm Beach-Ft. Pierce 824,920 0.719
39 Austin 771,210 0.672
40 Las Vegas 757,840 0.661
41 Oklahoma City 722,140 0.63

One thing that's not covered here: The NY/Philly/Wash DC corridor generally has a combined media market that dwarfs everything else. There's a lot of bleed over across that corridor, so the actual media penetration along the corridor is much higher than the individual markets indicate.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 1:54 pm    Post subject:

Four Decade Bandwagon wrote:
lakerjoshua wrote:
lakerican wrote:
One small simple question.

Does NBA test 4 steroids?


Jody Meeks says yes


Lebron says no.

And to be fair, curious why Kobe needed yearly trips to Germany for miraculous knee treatments?

Lakers need to be patient and damned certain before “trading” for Leonard. While I agree he has an impressive resume, they have to make sure he still is or can still be that same player. IMO it is too big a risk to hope he can be. They have to know it is not recurring and he is never the same player again.


I was referring to this:

https://www.slamonline.com/nba/jodie-meeks-suspended-25-games-anti-drug-policy/

Yes, the NBA does test for steroids.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 1:59 pm    Post subject:

If the spurs want to trade KL, Then Boston and the Lakers are the best to land him. Because they have the assets.

BOS
Rozier, Brown plus what ever and the lotto pick

LA
Randle Sign and trade two picks and BI
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 2:12 pm    Post subject:

kikanga wrote:
Spurs fans asking themselves, "Kawhi?"
Lakers fans are like "Kawhi not?"



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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 2:29 pm    Post subject:

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If the spurs want to trade KL, Then Boston and the Lakers are the best to land him. Because they have the assets.

BOS
Rozier, Brown plus what ever and the lotto pick

LA
Randle Sign and trade two picks and BI


although true. The Clippers are there as well they can trade tobias harris plus HIGH first round picks. Detroit and their own....

this is what I was saying. This is one of those mistakes that magic Johnson has made. HE DIDNT get JERRY WEST when He had the chance and by letting him go to the clippers it will only attract free agents and trades of high caliber to play under a young ownership and a HOFamer in a big market. Magic was just too thick headed to realize that by letting Jerry go to the clippers it can create competition


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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 2:30 pm    Post subject:

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If the spurs want to trade KL, Then Boston and the Lakers are the best to land him. Because they have the assets.

BOS
Rozier, Brown plus what ever and the lotto pick

LA
Randle Sign and trade two picks and BI


although true. The Clippers are there as well they can trade tobias harris plus HIGH first round picks. Detroit and their own....

this is what I was saying. This is one of those mistakes that magic Johnson has made. HE DIDNT get JERRY WEST when He had the chance and by letting him go to the clippers it will only attract free agents of high caliber to play under a young ownership and a HOFamer in a big market. Magic was just too thick headed to realize that by letting Jerry go to the clippers it can create competition


No one wants what the clips have to give
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 2:33 pm    Post subject:

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999 wrote:
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If the spurs want to trade KL, Then Boston and the Lakers are the best to land him. Because they have the assets.

BOS
Rozier, Brown plus what ever and the lotto pick

LA
Randle Sign and trade two picks and BI


although true. The Clippers are there as well they can trade tobias harris plus HIGH first round picks. Detroit and their own....

this is what I was saying. This is one of those mistakes that magic Johnson has made. HE DIDNT get JERRY WEST when He had the chance and by letting him go to the clippers it will only attract free agents of high caliber to play under a young ownership and a HOFamer in a big market. Magic was just too thick headed to realize that by letting Jerry go to the clippers it can create competition


No one wants what the clips have to give


yea but Pop is also a bitter man. he can trade him there if he wanted too because he hates the lakers that much
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 2:41 pm    Post subject:

noahp45 wrote:
If the spurs want to trade KL, Then Boston and the Lakers are the best to land him. Because they have the assets.

BOS
Rozier, Brown plus what ever and the lotto pick

LA
Randle Sign and trade two picks and BI


Randle, BI and two picks for a superstar with a mystery injury heck no

This reminds me of the Cavs trading Kyrie for IT coming off an injury. IT may never be the same. The risk is too great.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 2:43 pm    Post subject:

scooterp10 wrote:
noahp45 wrote:
If the spurs want to trade KL, Then Boston and the Lakers are the best to land him. Because they have the assets.

BOS
Rozier, Brown plus what ever and the lotto pick

LA
Randle Sign and trade two picks and BI


Randle, BI and two picks for a superstar with a mystery injury heck no

This reminds me of the Cavs trading Kyrie for IT coming off an injury. IT may never be the same. The risk is too great.


I agree with you I wouldn't trade for KL. I just wanted to point out what I think the Lakers would give if they believe the dude is healthy.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 2:49 pm    Post subject:

noahp45 wrote:
scooterp10 wrote:
noahp45 wrote:
If the spurs want to trade KL, Then Boston and the Lakers are the best to land him. Because they have the assets.

BOS
Rozier, Brown plus what ever and the lotto pick

LA
Randle Sign and trade two picks and BI


Randle, BI and two picks for a superstar with a mystery injury heck no

This reminds me of the Cavs trading Kyrie for IT coming off an injury. IT may never be the same. The risk is too great.



I agree with you I wouldn't trade for KL. I just wanted to point out what I think the Lakers would give if they believe the dude is healthy.


I would do it if LeBron and PG13 were coming. Those guys with Lonzo and Lopez would be a nasty defense. plus Kuzma and Hart off the bench. Add some more shooters. We’d be the favorite again and a very fun team to watch
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 2:52 pm    Post subject:

scooterp10 wrote:
noahp45 wrote:
If the spurs want to trade KL, Then Boston and the Lakers are the best to land him. Because they have the assets.

BOS
Rozier, Brown plus what ever and the lotto pick

LA
Randle Sign and trade two picks and BI


Randle, BI and two picks for a superstar with a mystery injury heck no

This reminds me of the Cavs trading Kyrie for IT coming off an injury. IT may never be the same. The risk is too great.

Kyrie isn't actually ironman, it's actually starting to look like Cavs got a decent haul. JC/Nance/Hood + BK first for Kyrie.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 2:58 pm    Post subject:

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Four Decade Bandwagon wrote:
lakerjoshua wrote:
lakerican wrote:
One small simple question.

Does NBA test 4 steroids?


Jody Meeks says yes


Lebron says no.

And to be fair, curious why Kobe needed yearly trips to Germany for miraculous knee treatments?

Lakers need to be patient and damned certain before “trading” for Leonard. While I agree he has an impressive resume, they have to make sure he still is or can still be that same player. IMO it is too big a risk to hope he can be. They have to know it is not recurring and he is never the same player again.


I was referring to this:

https://www.slamonline.com/nba/jodie-meeks-suspended-25-games-anti-drug-policy/

Yes, the NBA does test for steroids.


I was referring to baseless innuendo and my own cynical suspicion of NBA steroid usage and comical testing.

As for Leonard, going to assume teams will have much more info of the injury and ramifications then the media and public. Prefer Lakers be cautious before trading for a headline grabbing marquee name only to see him be damaged goods or move on in free agency.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 3:21 pm    Post subject:

Kawhi's cryptic injury reports continue to worry me (from a Lakers perspective). No need to rush imo, just take the PG approach. Let him play wherever he is traded to, and if he is dead set on becoming a FA and/or a Laker, you'll have a free shot to sign him next offseason. I would HATE to trade BI for a guy with so many question marks, and then have to watch one of our guys become a superstar in San Antonio, while we're left with damaged goods.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 3:46 pm    Post subject:

If the Spurs trade Kawhi Leonard, it won't be to another team in the West. IMO, I think Kawhi and the Spurs will come to terms on a long term deal.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 4:00 pm    Post subject:

Agreed, AuraStar. All will be resolved July 1st (or whenever they're eligible to extend that Supermax) and they have two months now to discuss and work it out until then.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 4:01 pm    Post subject:

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Agreed, AuraStar. All will be resolved July 1st (or whenever they're eligible to extend that Supermax) and they have two months now to discuss and work it out until then.


Thought I read that the Spurs will need to decide sometime around June.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 4:05 pm    Post subject:

lakerjoshua wrote:
Four Decade Bandwagon wrote:
lakerjoshua wrote:
lakerican wrote:
One small simple question.

Does NBA test 4 steroids?


Jody Meeks says yes


Lebron says no.

And to be fair, curious why Kobe needed yearly trips to Germany for miraculous knee treatments?

Lakers need to be patient and damned certain before “trading” for Leonard. While I agree he has an impressive resume, they have to make sure he still is or can still be that same player. IMO it is too big a risk to hope he can be. They have to know it is not recurring and he is never the same player again.


I was referring to this:

https://www.slamonline.com/nba/jodie-meeks-suspended-25-games-anti-drug-policy/

Yes, the NBA does test for steroids.

Didn't Kawhi get tested right after he had a huge game with a game winner?
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 4:30 pm    Post subject:

Best article I have seen on the Kawhi Leonard situation.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23366667/inside-tension-kawhi-leonard-spurs
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 5:10 pm    Post subject:

My money is on Pop convincing KL to patch up their differences, then RC offers him the supermax. Unless his uncle can somehow convince him that LA is the best place for him, then I have to give their organization the benefit of the doubt on repairing their relationship.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 5:19 pm    Post subject:

That story sounds mighty thin to me. Just trying to get hits.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 5:23 pm    Post subject:

If Kawhi is getting the supermax, he's staying a Spur. He's just making sure he gets paid without showing how hurt he could be.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 5:25 pm    Post subject:

mookielala wrote:
That story sounds mighty thin to me. Just trying to get hits.


How so?

They named the specific players and went in depth way more than any other article I have seen.

It sounds to me like Kawhi is getting overwhelmed a bit with people trying to get in on the action and speak for him while he is likely feeling stress over the slow progress on this injury.

Very odd situation, I am a huge Kawhi Leonard fan as a SDSU alum who saw pretty much every college game he played.
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mookielala wrote:
That story sounds mighty thin to me. Just trying to get hits.


It's being sourced to the ESPN article. It's legit.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 5:48 pm    Post subject:

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That story sounds mighty thin to me. Just trying to get hits.


How so?

They named the specific players and went in depth way more than any other article I have seen.

It sounds to me like Kawhi is getting overwhelmed a bit with people trying to get in on the action and speak for him while he is likely feeling stress over the slow progress on this injury.

Very odd situation, I am a huge Kawhi Leonard fan as a SDSU alum who saw pretty much every college game he played.


Agreed on being Kawhi fan. He was probably the best two-way player in the NBA before the injury. And I like his quiet, cool style. Correct me if wrong, because I didn't read the whole thing closely, but everything is hung on anonymous "multiple sources." I don't trust that, especially in sports journalism. Could be anyone, and people are basically paid to talk in sports punditry: agents, journalists, "experts," hangers-on... ESPN needs something to talk about 14 hours a day and Ramona (or whoever it might be) needs to stay relevant.
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