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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 7:40 am    Post subject: Kawhi Leonard to LA? (Math to Sign KL in 2019)

Report: Spurs worried Kawhi Leonard’s group trying to get him to Lakers

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Those rumors of mutual interest between the Lakers and Kawhi Leonard? Maybe it’s time to take them seriously.

The Spurs apparently are.

Multiple league sources also told ESPN that the Spurs have grown worried that Leonard’s group has an ulterior motive to fray the relationship and get Leonard traded to a larger market like Los Angeles (Leonard’s hometown) or New York or Philadelphia (Robertson lives in New Jersey).

One source close to general manager R.C. Buford said the longtime executive admitted to him that he’s constantly losing sleep over how and why the relationship with Leonard has disintegrated.


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I suggest reading Shelburne’s and Wight’s article in full. It’s the deepest dive yet into the disconnect between Leonard and the Spurs.

A big issue is clearly Leonard’s injury. San Antonio calls it quadriceps tendinopathy, but that’s not the only accepted diagnosis.


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Cap Space Math to Sign Kawhi (after Deng Dump or Stretch) in Summer 2019
The only way to trade for Kawhi right now is to include at least $16.1m in salary. We cannot use any of the free agents we signed (Rondo, Stephenson or McGee) in a trade until after December 12, 2018. We cannot use KCP in a trade because he has a 1 year deal (after extending with the Lakers), making it so he has a no trade clause.

To sign Kawhi next summer of 2019, we will need to either dump Deng or stretch him. If we stretch him, we'll need to rescind all of our rights/cap holds for our FAs. Here is the math -

$37,430,000......LeBron James (1)
$32,700,000......Kawhi Leonard (2)
$8,719,320........Lonzo Ball (3)
$7,265,485........Brandon Ingram (4)
$2,164,680........Moritz Wagner (5)
$1,974,600........Kyle Kuzma (6)
$1,934,160........Josh Hart (7)
$1,550,000...…...Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk (8)
$1,416,852........Isaac Bonga (9)
$897,158...........Min Salary (10)
$897,158...........Min Salary (11)
$897,158...........Min Salary (12)
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$97,846,571

$6,200,000........Luol Deng (1 year $18.8m Stretched)
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$104,046,571

Deng Dump: $109,000,000 (Cap) - $97,846,571 (Salaries) = $11,153,429 cap space left
Deng Stretch: $109,000,000 (Cap) - $104,046,571 (Salaries) = $4,953,429 cap space left
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 7:43 am    Post subject:

or Philly or NY or Clippers

title is misleading
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 7:44 am    Post subject:

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or Philly or NY or Clippers

title is misleading


Yeah but this is a Lakers forum and the article says Lakers.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 7:47 am    Post subject:

The only larger markets are LA, NY.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 7:49 am    Post subject:

Spurs fans asking themselves, "Kawhi?"
Lakers fans are like "Kawhi not?"
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 7:51 am    Post subject:

I dream of

Lonzo
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So much defense
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 7:53 am    Post subject:

His injury is worrying me very much.

We know if the Spurs were to trade him or were desperate to do so, instead of giving him the Super Max offer which he'd likely not walk away from.. that they know something the media doesn't.

That injury and his sister saying he's still not 100% keeping him out for the majority of the year, makes me feel that there's a lot we still don't know about it. Or aren't being told, or revealed or leaked to the media because it could mess up his money.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 8:03 am    Post subject:

Before any team (most importantly the Lakers) start trading away valuable players for Leonard there has to be more clarification of his injury.

Depending on the injury it would be foolish to trade for him IMO.

Keep seeing terms like "degenerative", "long term" and "chronic" in speculation on what his injury could be.

Prefer waiting and trying to sign him in free agency anyways. But trading for him without a clear understanding of what ails him could be a foolish.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 8:24 am    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
His injury is worrying me very much.

We know if the Spurs were to trade him or were desperate to do so, instead of giving him the Super Max offer which he'd likely not walk away from.. that they know something the media doesn't.

That injury and his sister saying he's still not 100% keeping him out for the majority of the year, makes me feel that there's a lot we still don't know about it. Or aren't being told, or revealed or leaked to the media because it could mess up his money.


After reading Ramona’s article, I agree. Something is very off and worrisome about the injury.

If the Spurs don’t offer the Super Max, something is definitely wrong imo.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 8:26 am    Post subject:

Ramona is a laker spy

She's putting the injury bug or there so magic can do his thing
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 8:27 am    Post subject:

This article basically paints the picture that Spurs organization is classy and trustworthy while Kawhi's 'group' is sneaky and in disarray

But the biggest thing is muscle vs tendon injury with ossification that sounds like has been a problem/growing problem for couple years now... this need medical check like crazy prior to trade


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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 8:28 am    Post subject:

defense wrote:
Ramona is a laker spy

She's putting the injury bug or there so magic can do his thing


Tamper this!
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 8:29 am    Post subject:

kikanga wrote:
Spurs fans asking themselves, "Kawhi?"
Lakers fans are like "Kawhi not?"


I so hard!
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 8:30 am    Post subject:

Daisuki kawaii leonard
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 8:31 am    Post subject:

Knicks shouldn’t be mentioned especially since Pork will miss the whole 2019 season, the Celtics might be hesitant to give him Brown and Tatum especially since they have been leading the Celtics to playoff wins.... the Clippers seem like a darkhorse but that’s because they have West... but I don’t see him choosing the Clippers over the Lakers especially if we get 2 max.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 8:44 am    Post subject:

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His injury is worrying me very much.

We know if the Spurs were to trade him or were desperate to do so, instead of giving him the Super Max offer which he'd likely not walk away from.. that they know something the media doesn't.

That injury and his sister saying he's still not 100% keeping him out for the majority of the year, makes me feel that there's a lot we still don't know about it. Or aren't being told, or revealed or leaked to the media because it could mess up his money.


After reading Ramona’s article, I agree. Something is very off and worrisome about the injury.

If the Spurs don’t offer the Super Max, something is definitely wrong imo.


Exactly. That is why I'd be worried. He's essentially their franchise player. if his sister is right and these stories aren't exactly coming from him, you've gotta wonder if the Spurs are behind it because they're trying to drive up value for Leonard in the trade market.

SOMETHING is up that we aren't being told.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 8:46 am    Post subject:

Mods thanks for the title change.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 9:00 am    Post subject:

I think KL goes East; Spurs won't want him in the west...
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 9:04 am    Post subject:

According to multiple sources, Leonard’s camp has come to believe the issue has more to do with an ossification or hardening in the area where the muscle has been repeatedly bruised and then an atrophying, which in turn affected the tendons connecting the muscle to the knee.

I'm not a doc, but this doesn't sound good. Why would you deal any young studs for this guy?
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 9:25 am    Post subject:

Chad09 wrote:
The only larger markets are LA, NY.


Philly is #4 which is massive compared to little old San Antonio
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 9:26 am    Post subject:

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According to multiple sources, Leonard’s camp has come to believe the issue has more to do with an ossification or hardening in the area where the muscle has been repeatedly bruised and then an atrophying, which in turn affected the tendons connecting the muscle to the knee.

I'm not a doc, but this doesn't sound good. Why would you deal any young studs for this guy?


How else are you gonna find an mvp or potential superstar? You take chances. I'd keep BI and trade away the rest if I could. To me the only one untouchable is BI since he has elite length
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 9:30 am    Post subject:

Runway8 wrote:
According to multiple sources, Leonard’s camp has come to believe the issue has more to do with an ossification or hardening in the area where the muscle has been repeatedly bruised and then an atrophying, which in turn affected the tendons connecting the muscle to the knee.

I'm not a doc, but this doesn't sound good. Why would you deal any young studs for this guy?


Yeah, that paragraph gave me serious pause. Ossification?? What the hell is that?? I thought that only happened to cadavers.

And while Dennis Robertson doesn't sound as bad as Lavar, I'm at least confident Lonzo can separate himself from his dad. I'm not so sure about Kawhi with his uncle.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 9:32 am    Post subject:

hope we make informed decisions on players with unproven/untested injuries
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 9:41 am    Post subject:

VicXLakers wrote:
hope we make informed decisions on players with unproven/untested injuries



yeah, I'm sure the medical staff will be looking into that. however, I do think
the Spurs will send KL east, IF into trading...
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 9:50 am    Post subject:

This situation is very similar to Kyrie. He requested a trade. He had 1 more year left on his contract. He also had a history of knee problems and sure enough he missed the end of the regular season and playoffs. Some people here say wait until 2019. If the situation is that bad with the Spurs as reported he quite possibly won't be available in 2019. He will likely be traded this summer like Kyrie. Decisions will have to be made quickly for any team that wants him.
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