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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:45 am    Post subject: BPM

Its early but just for fun. I'll add RPM when they are up.

OBM

Lebron_____5.6
Rondo_____2.2
Lance______1.4
Lonzo _____1.3
Mcgee_____1.2
Hart_______.6
Zubac______.6
Kuzma_____0
Williams____-.4
Pope______-2.9
Ingram____-5.1
Svi_______-5.1

DBM

Mcgee____3.9
Lebron___0.7
Hart_____-0.1
Zubac____0.4
Williams__-0.6
Rondo___-0.9
Lance____-1.1
Lonzo____-1.2
Svi_____-2.0
Pope____-2.2
Ingram__-2.2
Kuzma___-3.1


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:46 am    Post subject:

Lebron, Mcgee, Lance and Lonzo to finish games is a no brainer if you like these stats
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:54 am    Post subject:

defense wrote:
Lebron, Mcgee, Lance and Lonzo to finish games is a no brainer if you like these stats


Way too early for that, IMO. Lonzo was like +4 overall before yesterday's crappy game, and dropped to a +1.1 because of it. There's gonna be a ton of fluctuation early on.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:57 am    Post subject:

GoldenThroat wrote:
defense wrote:
Lebron, Mcgee, Lance and Lonzo to finish games is a no brainer if you like these stats


Way too early for that, IMO. Lonzo was like +4 overall before yesterday's crappy game, and dropped to a +1.1 because of it. There's gonna be a ton of fluctuation early on.


Yea I know that. I'm just leading the witness a little
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:52 pm    Post subject:

Lance is playing way over expectations.
Hope it can continue.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:01 pm    Post subject:

GoldenThroat wrote:
defense wrote:
Lebron, Mcgee, Lance and Lonzo to finish games is a no brainer if you like these stats


Way too early for that, IMO. Lonzo was like +4 overall before yesterday's crappy game, and dropped to a +1.1 because of it. There's gonna be a ton of fluctuation early on.


Orrrrrrrr maybe he just STINKS now

didn't thunked bout that one did ye
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:02 pm    Post subject:

also I dont Besvive those low numbers for my Ukrainian son not wonbit
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:43 pm    Post subject:

I think even the guys that really like BPM and RPM claim it is mostly noise until a 1/3 of the season has passed and enough data has been collected.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:06 pm    Post subject:

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I think even the guys that really like BPM and RPM claim it is mostly noise until a 1/3 of the season has passed and enough data has been collected.


You need about 20 games of data before the numbers stabilize. As the OP suggested, this is just early returns.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:20 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
Lance is playing way over expectations.
Hope it can continue.


Let's just enjoy this 6 game stretch and fondly remember it in two months when we all want to break things as Lance is about to check in.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:21 pm    Post subject:

GoldenThroat wrote:
defense wrote:
Lebron, Mcgee, Lance and Lonzo to finish games is a no brainer if you like these stats


Way too early for that, IMO. Lonzo was like +4 overall before yesterday's crappy game, and dropped to a +1.1 because of it. There's gonna be a ton of fluctuation early on.


You were wrong about Lance, admit it!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:17 pm    Post subject:

defense wrote:
Lebron, Mcgee, Lance and Lonzo to finish games is a no brainer if you like these stats


+ Rondo as the 5th man.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:15 pm    Post subject: Re: BPM

defense wrote:
Its early but just for fun. I'll add RPM when they are up.

OBM

Lebron_____5.0
Lance______2.1
Mcgee_____2.0
Rondo_____1.8
Lonzo _____1.1
Williams____-.3
Hart_______-.6
Kuzma_____-.8
Ingram____-3.5
Pope______-4.1
Svi_______-5.9

DBM

Lebron___3.2
Mcgee____1.1
Lance____.6
Williams__.3
Lonzo____0
Hart_____.1
Kuzma___-.8
Ingram__-1.2
Svi_____-1.4
Rondo___-1.8
Pope____-2.4


NET:
+8.2 Lebron
+3.1 McGee
+2.7 Lance
+1.1 Lonzo
+0.0 Rondo
+0.0 Williams
-0.5 Hart
-1.6 Kuzma
-4.7 Ingram
-6.5 KCP
-7.3 Svi

There's only one things that's for sure:
Svi, KCP and Ingram should get less minutes!

Just kidding about BI... I think.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:03 am    Post subject: Re: BPM

epak wrote:
defense wrote:
Its early but just for fun. I'll add RPM when they are up.

OBM

Lebron_____5.0
Lance______2.1
Mcgee_____2.0
Rondo_____1.8
Lonzo _____1.1
Williams____-.3
Hart_______-.6
Kuzma_____-.8
Ingram____-3.5
Pope______-4.1
Svi_______-5.9

DBM

Lebron___3.2
Mcgee____1.1
Lance____.6
Williams__.3
Lonzo____0
Hart_____.1
Kuzma___-.8
Ingram__-1.2
Svi_____-1.4
Rondo___-1.8
Pope____-2.4


NET:
+8.2 Lebron
+3.1 McGee
+2.7 Lance
+1.1 Lonzo
+0.0 Rondo
+0.0 Williams
-0.5 Hart
-1.6 Kuzma
-4.7 Ingram
-6.5 KCP
-7.3 Svi

There's only one things that's for sure:
Svi, KCP and Ingram should get less minutes!

Just kidding about BI... I think.


Too early to take anything meaningful from these numbers. But I’d be lying if I said Ingram’s consistent poor numbers in analytics like this weren’t concerning.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:24 am    Post subject:

Just wanted to make sure, I was kidding
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:43 am    Post subject: Re: BPM

BigGameHames wrote:
epak wrote:
defense wrote:
Its early but just for fun. I'll add RPM when they are up.

OBM

Lebron_____5.0
Lance______2.1
Mcgee_____2.0
Rondo_____1.8
Lonzo _____1.1
Williams____-.3
Hart_______-.6
Kuzma_____-.8
Ingram____-3.5
Pope______-4.1
Svi_______-5.9

DBM

Lebron___3.2
Mcgee____1.1
Lance____.6
Williams__.3
Lonzo____0
Hart_____.1
Kuzma___-.8
Ingram__-1.2
Svi_____-1.4
Rondo___-1.8
Pope____-2.4


NET:
+8.2 Lebron
+3.1 McGee
+2.7 Lance
+1.1 Lonzo
+0.0 Rondo
+0.0 Williams
-0.5 Hart
-1.6 Kuzma
-4.7 Ingram
-6.5 KCP
-7.3 Svi

There's only one things that's for sure:
Svi, KCP and Ingram should get less minutes!

Just kidding about BI... I think.


Too early to take anything meaningful from these numbers. But I’d be lying if I said Ingram’s consistent poor numbers in analytics like this weren’t concerning.


The messed up part is what I see on the court mirrors his numbers. Too early to panic though.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:15 am    Post subject: Re: BPM

defense wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
epak wrote:
defense wrote:
Its early but just for fun. I'll add RPM when they are up.

OBM

Lebron_____5.0
Lance______2.1
Mcgee_____2.0
Rondo_____1.8
Lonzo _____1.1
Williams____-.3
Hart_______-.6
Kuzma_____-.8
Ingram____-3.5
Pope______-4.1
Svi_______-5.9

DBM

Lebron___3.2
Mcgee____1.1
Lance____.6
Williams__.3
Lonzo____0
Hart_____.1
Kuzma___-.8
Ingram__-1.2
Svi_____-1.4
Rondo___-1.8
Pope____-2.4


NET:
+8.2 Lebron
+3.1 McGee
+2.7 Lance
+1.1 Lonzo
+0.0 Rondo
+0.0 Williams
-0.5 Hart
-1.6 Kuzma
-4.7 Ingram
-6.5 KCP
-7.3 Svi

There's only one things that's for sure:
Svi, KCP and Ingram should get less minutes!

Just kidding about BI... I think.


Too early to take anything meaningful from these numbers. But I’d be lying if I said Ingram’s consistent poor numbers in analytics like this weren’t concerning.


The messed up part is what I see on the court mirrors his numbers. Too early to panic though.


I thought his defense looked better than that but I agree more or less. He’s gotta start fulfilling more of his potential.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:36 am    Post subject:

Lebron is +8? Holy hell, he's good but not that good. I don't see bpm stats up on ESPN yet. Where did you get these?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:38 am    Post subject:

lakersfever714 wrote:
Lebron is +8? Holy hell, he's good but not that good. I don't see bpm stats up on ESPN yet. Where did you get these?


Basketball-reference has bpm. But the numbers seen off compared to OP's. OP?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:55 am    Post subject:

There are a number of stats out there. I'm not sure where these numbers come from. You can find Box Plus-Minus in the Advanced table here:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2019.html

Some of the numbers match, but others do not. The OP may be drawing the numbers from some other source. These are not the RPM stats from ESPN -- those usually get released around the middle of November.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:07 am    Post subject:

Aeneas Hunter wrote:
There are a number of stats out there. I'm not sure where these numbers come from. You can find Box Plus-Minus in the Advanced table here:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2019.html

Some of the numbers match, but others do not. The OP may be drawing the numbers from some other source. These are not the RPM stats from ESPN -- those usually get released around the middle of November.


Cool. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:41 am    Post subject:

KCP has to benched completely now that BI is back. Too bad Luke has the worst rotations in NBA history
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:09 pm    Post subject:

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KCP has to benched completely now that BI is back. Too bad Luke has the worst rotations in NBA history


His lineup was a +7. What did it look like on tv?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:17 am    Post subject:

The Lebrons wrote:
GoldenThroat wrote:
defense wrote:
Lebron, Mcgee, Lance and Lonzo to finish games is a no brainer if you like these stats


Way too early for that, IMO. Lonzo was like +4 overall before yesterday's crappy game, and dropped to a +1.1 because of it. There's gonna be a ton of fluctuation early on.


You were wrong about Lance, admit it!!!



Yeah admit it
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:00 am    Post subject:

noahp45 wrote:
The Lebrons wrote:
GoldenThroat wrote:
defense wrote:
Lebron, Mcgee, Lance and Lonzo to finish games is a no brainer if you like these stats


Way too early for that, IMO. Lonzo was like +4 overall before yesterday's crappy game, and dropped to a +1.1 because of it. There's gonna be a ton of fluctuation early on.


You were wrong about Lance, admit it!!!



Yeah admit it


For the first 7 games admit it
Hopefully he proves us wrong the entire season.
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