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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 9:04 am    Post subject: Is Toronto the worst top team of all time?

I really don't understand why they so consistently flame out in the playoffs despite being the best team in their conference, year after year. Who is worse than the raptors in this?
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 9:11 am    Post subject: Re: Is Toronto the worst top team of all time?

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I really don't understand why they so consistently flame out in the playoffs despite being the best team in their conference, year after year. Who is worse than the raptors in this?



no i think that title goes to the 2007 Dallas Mavericks
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 9:20 am    Post subject:

It's because they live among Canadians several months each year, and Canadians are simply too polite. That's bound to rub off on the players, and it softens them up compared to the tough, blue-collar, street-smart, freedom-loving mentality of their American-based competition.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 9:58 am    Post subject:

Hawks a few years ago were pretty bad.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 10:28 am    Post subject:

Maybe we need to have a thread for worst thread starters of all time...
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 12:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Is Toronto the worst top team of all time?

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I really don't understand why they so consistently flame out in the playoffs despite being the best team in their conference, year after year. Who is worse than the raptors in this?
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This year is the only season Toronto has been the top team in the east. For the past 4 years, they've been #2, #3 or #4 in the conference, and they usually lose to the Cavs who have generally had a better record than them.

They certainly haven't had much playoff success, but they generally lose to teams that have a fairly similar or slightly better record to them. So I wouldn't say that it's a case of them losing to inferior competition, as much as they are always just a little inferior to the competition.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 12:22 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
Hawks a few years ago were pretty bad.


I don't think the Hawks ever won the conference, at least not during the Lebron era.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 12:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Is Toronto the worst top team of all time?

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I really don't understand why they so consistently flame out in the playoffs despite being the best team in their conference, year after year. Who is worse than the raptors in this?
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This year is the only season Toronto has been the top team in the east. For the past 4 years, they've been #2, #3 or #4 in the conference, and they usually lose to the Cavs who have generally had a better record than them.

They certainly haven't had much playoff success, but they generally lose to teams that have a fairly similar or slightly better record to them. So I wouldn't say that it's a case of them losing to inferior competition, as much as they are always just a little inferior to the competition.


Probably has more to do with the player makeup of their team. They tend to shrink when the pressure gets to them especially facing Lebron.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 12:26 pm    Post subject:

Watching the Raptors choke down the stretch was really educational.
The coach needs to shoulder much of the blame for allowing them to flame out.

Raps are done in 4. I call sweep.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 12:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Is Toronto the worst top team of all time?

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Chronicle wrote:
I really don't understand why they so consistently flame out in the playoffs despite being the best team in their conference, year after year. Who is worse than the raptors in this?
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This year is the only season Toronto has been the top team in the east. For the past 4 years, they've been #2, #3 or #4 in the conference, and they usually lose to the Cavs who have generally had a better record than them.

They certainly haven't had much playoff success, but they generally lose to teams that have a fairly similar or slightly better record to them. So I wouldn't say that it's a case of them losing to inferior competition, as much as they are always just a little inferior to the competition.


Probably has more to do with the player makeup of their team. They tend to shrink when the pressure gets to them especially facing Lebron.


Could be pressure. Or it could be they simply aren't as good as the Cavs. They tend to lose to them in the regular season as well.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 1:27 pm    Post subject:

The playoffs are a time for overreaction. I won't be surprised a bit if the Raptors win that series.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 1:58 pm    Post subject:

Last year's Celtics were worse.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 7:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Is Toronto the worst top team of all time?

Chronicle wrote:
I really don't understand why they so consistently flame out in the playoffs despite being the best team in their conference, year after year. Who is worse than the raptors in this?


The best team in the East year after year is the Lebron team. This is the first time Toronto has a better regular season record than his team.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 7:58 pm    Post subject:

The Raptors do struggle a lot but it’s not unheard of for teams to have bigger collapses. The Shaq teams before 2000 would get swept over and over again with a 4-1 loss in 97 being the only exception.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 5:18 am    Post subject:

If Canada ever went into war, this is how I imagine their armed forces would fare.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 8:16 am    Post subject:

Yes.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 8:16 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
If Canada ever went into war, this is how I imagine their armed forces would fare.


lol.

Sad part is, I believe they just use ours...
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 8:48 am    Post subject:

I thnk the Raptors will be making some moves this off-season. They'll have to deal either DeRozan or Lowry I think. Ibaka may be unmovable.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 9:21 am    Post subject:

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The playoffs are a time for overreaction. I won't be surprised a bit if the Raptors win that series.


Like I said, the Raptors are obviously toast.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 10:00 am    Post subject:

Aeneas Hunter wrote:
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The playoffs are a time for overreaction. I won't be surprised a bit if the Raptors win that series.


Like I said, the Raptors are obviously toast.


LMAO.... I got a nice hearty chuckle out of that one.

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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 3:32 am    Post subject:

I mean the Raptors just don't have much talent in comparison to the Cavs.
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 5:30 am    Post subject:

Raptors are to LeBron what Knicks were to MJ, owned
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 9:48 am    Post subject:

Chokers. DeFrozen and LOLry.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 12:17 am    Post subject:

hoopschick29 wrote:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
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The playoffs are a time for overreaction. I won't be surprised a bit if the Raptors win that series.


Like I said, the Raptors are obviously toast.


LMAO.... I got a nice hearty chuckle out of that one.

Sometimes, things ARE exactly as they appear.


No, has a team top-to-bottom, Rapter i believe have a better "team" Unfortunately, basketball is the only sport where one man can impose his will to win a series. Just like how Kobe used to rape the Rapter in every way, Lebron does the same thing to them.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 6:16 am    Post subject:

vanexelent wrote:
I thnk the Raptors will be making some moves this off-season. They'll have to deal either DeRozan or Lowry I think. Ibaka may be unmovable.


Didn't realize Valanciunas was making that much! He's probably the most unmovable Raptor.

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At least they look like they picked up some solid rookies in Anunoby and Siakim.

VanVleet is going to be an RFA this summer.
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