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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 7:31 am    Post subject: Win coach of the year and get FIRED! Casey out of Toronto


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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 7:32 am    Post subject:

They did underachieve in the playoffs but DeRozan is the bigger problem with that team.

The way he plays, in today's NBA if you're not a Kobe/top 5 scorer level guy, you can't play that sort of game IMO.
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 7:33 am    Post subject:

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They did underachieve in the playoffs but DeRozan is the bigger problem with that team.

The way he plays, in today's NBA if you're not a Kobe/top 5 scorer level guy, you can't play that sort of game IMO.


What do you mean?
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 7:34 am    Post subject:

#1 seed with Lowry and DeRozan as your best players. What did they expect?
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 7:35 am    Post subject:

I also think that LBJ has been quite the problem. Has made a very solid regular season team look like nothing.

It's like disbanding the Avengers b/c Thanos kicked your butt.
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They did underachieve in the playoffs but DeRozan is the bigger problem with that team.

The way he plays, in today's NBA if you're not a Kobe/top 5 scorer level guy, you can't play that sort of game IMO.


What do you mean?

The sort of game DeRozan plays, I don't think it's so valuable as it would have been 10, 15, 20 years ago.
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 7:40 am    Post subject:

Who available on the market would have realistically done better with that group?
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 7:52 am    Post subject:

wolfpaclaker wrote:
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They did underachieve in the playoffs but DeRozan is the bigger problem with that team.

The way he plays, in today's NBA if you're not a Kobe/top 5 scorer level guy, you can't play that sort of game IMO.


What do you mean?

The sort of game DeRozan plays, I don't think it's so valuable as it would have been 10, 15, 20 years ago.


Not sure how you can blame one player in particular. How many chippies did JV miss? Or Ibaka's complete disappearance? etc.
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 7:54 am    Post subject:

Not surprised...didn't he bench Derozan? We know this is a players league and the coaches don't have much power. He won't have a problem getting hired.
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 8:00 am    Post subject:

let's be real, casey is a mark jackson caliber coach. rigid and slow to react to in game situations. watching him leave cj miles in there against kevin love and leave siakam to get abused by lebron for 5 possessions in a row, and then deciding to go back to it game after game was like watching the warriors clippers series back in the day when mark jackson kept insisting on playing jermaine o'neal. same EXACT inability to respond to the in game circumstances.

dude deserves to be fired because that should ahve been a 6 game series at least. he cost the raptors 4-6 points per game with his terrible personnel decisions.
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 8:06 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
wolfpaclaker wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
wolfpaclaker wrote:
They did underachieve in the playoffs but DeRozan is the bigger problem with that team.

The way he plays, in today's NBA if you're not a Kobe/top 5 scorer level guy, you can't play that sort of game IMO.


What do you mean?

The sort of game DeRozan plays, I don't think it's so valuable as it would have been 10, 15, 20 years ago.


Not sure how you can blame one player in particular. How many chippies did JV miss? Or Ibaka's complete disappearance? etc.


DeRozan was benched the entire 4th quarter in game 3, and ejected in game 4.

He's the leader of the team and the best player and played the worst compared to his standards. He gets the brunt of the blame IMO
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 8:07 am    Post subject:

Casey didn't choke his team did. Raptors were blinded by bright lights and run over by the LeBron locomotive. Next season will reveal what a mistake firing Casey was.
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 8:13 am    Post subject:

22 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
wolfpaclaker wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
wolfpaclaker wrote:
They did underachieve in the playoffs but DeRozan is the bigger problem with that team.

The way he plays, in today's NBA if you're not a Kobe/top 5 scorer level guy, you can't play that sort of game IMO.


What do you mean?

The sort of game DeRozan plays, I don't think it's so valuable as it would have been 10, 15, 20 years ago.


Not sure how you can blame one player in particular. How many chippies did JV miss? Or Ibaka's complete disappearance? etc.


DeRozan was benched the entire 4th quarter in game 3, and ejected in game 4.

He's the leader of the team and the best player and played the worst compared to his standards. He gets the brunt of the blame IMO


When a team gets steamrolled 4-0 in such fashion, it's never 1 player.
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 8:20 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
22 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
wolfpaclaker wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
wolfpaclaker wrote:
They did underachieve in the playoffs but DeRozan is the bigger problem with that team.

The way he plays, in today's NBA if you're not a Kobe/top 5 scorer level guy, you can't play that sort of game IMO.


What do you mean?

The sort of game DeRozan plays, I don't think it's so valuable as it would have been 10, 15, 20 years ago.


Not sure how you can blame one player in particular. How many chippies did JV miss? Or Ibaka's complete disappearance? etc.


DeRozan was benched the entire 4th quarter in game 3, and ejected in game 4.

He's the leader of the team and the best player and played the worst compared to his standards. He gets the brunt of the blame IMO


When a team gets steamrolled 4-0 in such fashion, it's never 1 player.


Sometimes a team is just good and never gets to be great and it's not anybody's fault.
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 8:31 am    Post subject:

Well it was a fakey COY award anyway...
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 9:15 am    Post subject:

Raptors basically hit their ceiling with the talent on their team compared to other top teams. If anything fire the GM for going all-in on a roster that could get you to the playoffs but not have a prayer at winning a championship.
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 9:52 am    Post subject:

Lebron is getting his points....doesn't matter who he plays....the problem is the Raptors just like him score at will without any effort to slow him down. Look at how the Spurs and Warriors played him in the past....they make him earn those 2 or 3 points. They neutralize his offensive power with their overall collection of shooters.
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 9:59 am    Post subject:

TBH, I've never kept up with the Raps, but I just can't believe that the man was fired after winning COY. Perhaps as people have already said, he doesn't react as quick as he should in game circumstances, and it is true that the Raps kept running into LeBron Raymone James, but if he was worthy of being fired, how is it that he won the award in the first place?
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 10:43 am    Post subject:

This shows that either handing out those kind of awards is bs or that coaches are fired way too quickly. Actually, I think it's both.
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 11:23 am    Post subject:

cathy78 wrote:
This shows that either handing out those kind of awards is bs or that coaches are fired way too quickly. Actually, I think it's both.


Its a regular season award and teams firing winning coaches isn't exactly new.
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 11:35 am    Post subject:

lakersken80 wrote:
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This shows that either handing out those kind of awards is bs or that coaches are fired way too quickly. Actually, I think it's both.


Its a regular season award and teams firing winning coaches isn't exactly new.


This also is not the real league coach of the year award this is the coaching association coach of the year award which apparently Brad Stevens didnít even get a nomination for soÖ
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 11:48 am    Post subject:

wolfpaclaker wrote:
They did underachieve in the playoffs but DeRozan is the bigger problem with that team.

The way he plays, in today's NBA if you're not a Kobe/top 5 scorer level guy, you can't play that sort of game IMO.


The new coaching staff agrees

https://twitter.com/NBA_Skits/status/994994763249135618
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yinoma2001 wrote:
22 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
wolfpaclaker wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
wolfpaclaker wrote:
They did underachieve in the playoffs but DeRozan is the bigger problem with that team.

The way he plays, in today's NBA if you're not a Kobe/top 5 scorer level guy, you can't play that sort of game IMO.


What do you mean?

The sort of game DeRozan plays, I don't think it's so valuable as it would have been 10, 15, 20 years ago.


Not sure how you can blame one player in particular. How many chippies did JV miss? Or Ibaka's complete disappearance? etc.


DeRozan was benched the entire 4th quarter in game 3, and ejected in game 4.

He's the leader of the team and the best player and played the worst compared to his standards. He gets the brunt of the blame IMO


When a team gets steamrolled 4-0 in such fashion, it's never 1 player.


Key word being "brunt" of the blame, and it's squarely on his shoulders IMO.
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 12:11 pm    Post subject:

22 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
22 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
wolfpaclaker wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
wolfpaclaker wrote:
They did underachieve in the playoffs but DeRozan is the bigger problem with that team.

The way he plays, in today's NBA if you're not a Kobe/top 5 scorer level guy, you can't play that sort of game IMO.


What do you mean?

The sort of game DeRozan plays, I don't think it's so valuable as it would have been 10, 15, 20 years ago.


Not sure how you can blame one player in particular. How many chippies did JV miss? Or Ibaka's complete disappearance? etc.


DeRozan was benched the entire 4th quarter in game 3, and ejected in game 4.

He's the leader of the team and the best player and played the worst compared to his standards. He gets the brunt of the blame IMO


When a team gets steamrolled 4-0 in such fashion, it's never 1 player.


Key word being "brunt" of the blame, and it's squarely on his shoulders IMO.


What could he have done to beat the Cavs though? It was a systemic failure. LBJ did what he did. But to have all the other role players have a great series, that's on him too?
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 12:51 pm    Post subject:

https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1543142

the issues highlighted here are absolutely failures of the coach, and totally warrant firing.
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