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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 3:05 pm    Post subject:

Tatum is everything we hoped Ingram would be. Difference is the passion. Tatum wants it. Dude is out there going against Lebron. Ingram will still go 7-8 possessions without even thinking about shooting.

We suck with lottery picks.

Brown > Ingram
Tatum > Ball

We could have

Randle
Tatum
Brown
Hart
Russell

Instead of one guy who won’t shoot and one guy who can’t.


Very happy to have Kuzma, Hart, and Randle tho (although I really wanted Smart in that draft).
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 3:06 pm    Post subject:

It's too early to tell. The Celts duo is in the lead right now, but Ingram may still have the biggest upside. Guys with his handle and a 9'3"+ standing reach are the definition of rare.
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 3:07 pm    Post subject:

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It's too early to tell. The Celts duo is in the lead right now, but Ingram may still have the biggest upside. Guys with his handle and a 9'3"+ standing reach are the definition of rare.


9'1.5 but ya
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 3:13 pm    Post subject:

SDLakersFan wrote:
Tatum is everything we hoped Ingram would be. Difference is the passion. Tatum wants it. Dude is out there going against Lebron. Ingram will still go 7-8 possessions without even thinking about shooting.

We suck with lottery picks.

Brown > Ingram
Tatum > Ball

We could have

Randle
Tatum
Brown
Hart
Russell

Instead of one guy who won’t shoot and one guy who can’t.


Very happy to have Kuzma, Hart, and Randle tho (although I really wanted Smart in that draft).


I like

Randle
Kuzma
Ingram
Hart
Ball

More than the lineup you posted
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 3:28 pm    Post subject:

SDLakersFan wrote:
Tatum is everything we hoped Ingram would be. Difference is the passion. Tatum wants it. Dude is out there going against Lebron. Ingram will still go 7-8 possessions without even thinking about shooting.

We suck with lottery picks.

Brown > Ingram
Tatum > Ball

We could have

Randle
Tatum
Brown
Hart
Russell<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Instead of one guy who won’t shoot and one guy who can’t.


Very happy to have Kuzma, Hart, and Randle tho (although I really wanted Smart in that draft).
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 4:00 pm    Post subject:

If we are talking overall potential I would take Ingram over both Tatum and Brown. Ingram is what 6 months older than Tatum?

I also think the discussion should be Ingram and Ball vs Tatum and Brown. I personally think Ball has the ability to be the most impactful player in terms of winning games out of either Tatum or Brown.

People talk about Randle being the “Draymond Green” of the Lakers but I really think that Ball has more similarities in terms of effect on the game outside of scoring.

My hope is that in the next few years that all of these players can come into their own so we can continue to see these historic nba rivalries. I’m rooting for the Knicks to get some good players to put alongside Porzingis as well.

Having the Lakers, Celtics, Knicks, Bulls and 76ers all playing meaningful games in the playoffs is great for the league and I want them all to be good so we can beat them at their best.
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 7:15 pm    Post subject:

SDLakersFan wrote:
Tatum is everything we hoped Ingram would be. Difference is the passion. Tatum wants it. Dude is out there going against Lebron. Ingram will still go 7-8 possessions without even thinking about shooting.

We suck with lottery picks.

Brown > Ingram
Tatum > Ball

We could have

Randle
Tatum
Brown
Hart
Russell

Instead of one guy who won’t shoot and one guy who can’t.


Very happy to have Kuzma, Hart, and Randle tho (although I really wanted Smart in that draft).

Speak for yourself, Ingram will be better than Brown or Tatum. People were saying the same nonsense about Randle vs Smart the first year or 2. Some of y’all are terrible at evaluating talent, that team you suggest would not have done any better and you would be sitting here talking about how we shouldn’t have drafted brown/Tatum.
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 7:18 pm    Post subject:

I think Tatum is the best player of them all. I felt that way even before he was drafted. I think Ingram has the most upside. But that is not a reality yet, only a possibility.
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 7:20 pm    Post subject:

SDLakersFan wrote:
Tatum is everything we hoped Ingram would be. Difference is the passion. Tatum wants it. Dude is out there going against Lebron. Ingram will still go 7-8 possessions without even thinking about shooting.

We suck with lottery picks.

Brown > Ingram
Tatum > Ball

We could have

Randle
Tatum
Brown
Hart
Russell

Instead of one guy who won’t shoot and one guy who can’t.


Very happy to have Kuzma, Hart, and Randle tho (although I really wanted Smart in that draft).

I'm personally a fan of the following lineup:

Okafor
Bender
Jackson
Stauskas
Rondo
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 7:24 pm    Post subject:

All this talk about the playoffs is completely ignoring two things. They got there with two allstars one who may be DPOY. while they have played well for young guys they still don’t show up on the road. Kuzma and Igram have been the focal points of the Defense every night for a full season. Kuzma went into one of the toughest buildings and put up 38 pts Ingram put up 26pts 6rebs 6ast in the same Building these Celtics are struggling in.
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 7:25 pm    Post subject:

Mr.81 wrote:
SDLakersFan wrote:
Tatum is everything we hoped Ingram would be. Difference is the passion. Tatum wants it. Dude is out there going against Lebron. Ingram will still go 7-8 possessions without even thinking about shooting.

We suck with lottery picks.

Brown > Ingram
Tatum > Ball

We could have

Randle
Tatum
Brown
Hart
Russell

Instead of one guy who won’t shoot and one guy who can’t.


Very happy to have Kuzma, Hart, and Randle tho (although I really wanted Smart in that draft).

Speak for yourself, Ingram will be better than Brown or Tatum. People were saying the same nonsense about Randle vs Smart the first year or 2. Some of y’all are terrible at evaluating talent, that team you suggest would not have done any better and you would be sitting here talking about how we shouldn’t have drafted brown/Tatum.


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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 7:29 pm    Post subject:

Ball > Tatum (Ball just needs to become an average scorer to have all-star like impact)
Tatum > Ingram (Tatum will always be better, just too skilled imo)
Brown > Ingram (barely, Ingram will be better eventually)
Kuz is probably the worst of the bunch but damn is he fun to watch.
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 7:29 pm    Post subject:

Statement is embarrassing the rest of us laker fans
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 7:48 pm    Post subject:

I'll take Ingram because I still think he has better potential than Brown but I'd rather have Tatum over Ball. Not a Ball fan, sorry. I mean Mitchell is the one I really want but I'd settle for Tatum over Ball.
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 7:51 pm    Post subject:

Replace Tatum with kuz or bi and we are exact same team. Replace ball with Tatum we are worse
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 7:56 pm    Post subject:

Put ingram and kuz on celts and brad Stevens will have boston doing just as well.
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 9:27 pm    Post subject:

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Put ingram and kuz on celts and brad Stevens will have boston doing just as well.


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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 9:41 pm    Post subject:

before you say both are better, we need to see them outplay Brown and Tatum...
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 9:56 pm    Post subject:

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before you say both are better, we need to see them outplay Brown and Tatum...


https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201801230LAL.html


https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201711080BOS.html
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 10:01 pm    Post subject:

Car54 wrote:
Drifts wrote:
before you say both are better, we need to see them outplay Brown and Tatum...


https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201801230LAL.html


https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201711080BOS.html


Links don't mean anything. Brown and Tatum are kicking ass in the playoffs.
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 10:04 pm    Post subject:

Drifts wrote:
Car54 wrote:
Drifts wrote:
before you say both are better, we need to see them outplay Brown and Tatum...


https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201801230LAL.html


https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201711080BOS.html


Links don't mean anything. Brown and Tatum are kicking ass in the playoffs.


I like how you said we need to see them outplay brown and Tatum and then Car54 linked you to their heads up matchups outplaying brown and Tatum and then you say “doesn’t mean anything” haha.


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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 10:04 pm    Post subject:

Drifts wrote:
Car54 wrote:
Drifts wrote:
before you say both are better, we need to see them outplay Brown and Tatum...


https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201801230LAL.html


https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201711080BOS.html


Links don't mean anything. Brown and Tatum are kicking ass in the playoffs.


The links show them out playing them like you asked for now you're changing the criteria lol im sure Kuzma and Ingram would do the same if they played with Kyrie and another allstar to make the playoffs. I wouldn't call what theyre doing on the road kicking ass
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 10:08 pm    Post subject:

Car54 wrote:
Drifts wrote:
Car54 wrote:
Drifts wrote:
before you say both are better, we need to see them outplay Brown and Tatum...


https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201801230LAL.html


https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201711080BOS.html


Links don't mean anything. Brown and Tatum are kicking ass in the playoffs.


The links show them out playing them like you asked for now you're changing the criteria lol im sure Kuzma and Ingram would do the same if they played with Kyrie and another allstar to make the playoffs. I woukdnt call what theyre doing on tne road kicking ass


outplaying them don't mean 2 games. outplaying them mean, outplaying them overall. jeez... didn't expect I needed to elaborate. lol
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 10:08 pm    Post subject:

DangeRuss wrote:
Drifts wrote:
Car54 wrote:
Drifts wrote:
before you say both are better, we need to see them outplay Brown and Tatum...


https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201801230LAL.html


https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201711080BOS.html


Links don't mean anything. Brown and Tatum are kicking ass in the playoffs.


I like how you said we need to see them outplay brown and Tatum and then Car54 linked you to their heads up matchups outplaying brown and Tatum and then you say “doesn’t mean anything” haha.



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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 10:14 pm    Post subject:

Drifts wrote:
Car54 wrote:
Drifts wrote:
Car54 wrote:
Drifts wrote:
before you say both are better, we need to see them outplay Brown and Tatum...


https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201801230LAL.html


https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201711080BOS.html


Links don't mean anything. Brown and Tatum are kicking ass in the playoffs.


The links show them out playing them like you asked for now you're changing the criteria lol im sure Kuzma and Ingram would do the same if they played with Kyrie and another allstar to make the playoffs. I woukdnt call what theyre doing on tne road kicking ass


outplaying them don't mean 2 games. outplaying them mean, outplaying them overall. jeez... didn't expect I needed to elaborate. lol



Kuzma 16ppg 6.3rpg 1.8apg > Tatum 14ppg 5rpg 1.6apg

Ingram 16ppg 5.3rpg 4apg Brown 14.5ppg 5rpg 1.6apg

Looks like overall to me lol
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