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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:00 am    Post subject:

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KAT played like an unhappy player with his coach last year.

The year before, he was putting up legit defensive numbers.


I honestly think he is a bit overrated.

Talented, but questionable motor.


I'd have a questionable motor too if my coach burned me out.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:35 am    Post subject:

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KAT played like an unhappy player with his coach last year.

The year before, he was putting up legit defensive numbers.


I honestly think he is a bit overrated.

Talented, but questionable motor.


I'd have a questionable motor too if my coach burned me out.


Jimmy Butler is so smart.
He knew Tib's ways, so he faked an injury to miss 23 games + practices.
KAT should have been more wily.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:37 am    Post subject:

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Mike@LG wrote:
LakerLanny wrote:
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KAT played like an unhappy player with his coach last year.

The year before, he was putting up legit defensive numbers.


I honestly think he is a bit overrated.

Talented, but questionable motor.


I'd have a questionable motor too if my coach burned me out.


Jimmy Butler is so smart.
He knew Tib's ways, so he faked an injury to miss 23 games + practices.
KAT should have been more wily.


For real though, Butler is a different dude. If I remember correctly, he tested high on some mental toughness test. Maybe that was Draymond. But Jimmy strikes me as a guy that appreciates old school coaching.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:54 am    Post subject:

Bamba >>>> Doncic when it's all said and done

Doncic will be a Draymond type of player offensively (with more skill and flair)... 3rd option but makes everything else go. Maybe a 20/8/8 at best. In many ways, he's similar to Lonzo in that sense except he's a forward and far more half court oriented.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:56 am    Post subject:

2019 wrote:
Bamba >>>> Doncic when it's all said and done

Doncic will be a Draymond type of player offensively (with more skill and flair)... 3rd option but makes everything else go. Maybe a 20/8/8 at best. In many ways, he's similar to Lonzo in that sense except he's a forward and far more half court oriented.


Doncic as Draymond is crazy valuable on offense, but sure, I understand JJJ or Bamba or even Trae #1.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:57 am    Post subject:

2019 wrote:
Bamba >>>> Doncic when it's all said and done

Doncic will be a Draymond type of player offensively (with more skill and flair)... 3rd option but makes everything else go. Maybe a 20/8/8 at best. In many ways, he's similar to Lonzo in that sense except he's a forward and far more half court oriented.


i would like to see if we can get #6 and Jonathan Isaac from the Magic for Ingram/zubac

I just think Bamba is going to be really good and i like Isaac last year in draft
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:18 am    Post subject:

Jesusdelonla wrote:
2019 wrote:
Bamba >>>> Doncic when it's all said and done

Doncic will be a Draymond type of player offensively (with more skill and flair)... 3rd option but makes everything else go. Maybe a 20/8/8 at best. In many ways, he's similar to Lonzo in that sense except he's a forward and far more half court oriented.


i would like to see if we can get #6 and Jonathan Isaac from the Magic for Ingram/zubac

I just think Bamba is going to be really good and i like Isaac last year in draft
You are crazy, You don’t trade a 21 year old who just posted 16ppg 6rpg 4apg with legit defense, 6”10 and can play PG for a prospect unless its an irving, rose, etc type prospect.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:22 am    Post subject:

watchME wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
2019 wrote:
Bamba >>>> Doncic when it's all said and done

Doncic will be a Draymond type of player offensively (with more skill and flair)... 3rd option but makes everything else go. Maybe a 20/8/8 at best. In many ways, he's similar to Lonzo in that sense except he's a forward and far more half court oriented.


i would like to see if we can get #6 and Jonathan Isaac from the Magic for Ingram/zubac

I just think Bamba is going to be really good and i like Isaac last year in draft
You are crazy, You don’t trade a 21 year old who just posted 16ppg 6rpg 4apg with legit defense, 6”10 and can play PG for a prospect unless its an irving, rose, etc type prospect.


the guy who was force-fed to be the #1 guy with all his iso moves? and average defense?

sure i like BI but i am not pretending him to Irving or KD in the making
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:27 am    Post subject:

Jesusdelonla wrote:
watchME wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
2019 wrote:
Bamba >>>> Doncic when it's all said and done

Doncic will be a Draymond type of player offensively (with more skill and flair)... 3rd option but makes everything else go. Maybe a 20/8/8 at best. In many ways, he's similar to Lonzo in that sense except he's a forward and far more half court oriented.


i would like to see if we can get #6 and Jonathan Isaac from the Magic for Ingram/zubac

I just think Bamba is going to be really good and i like Isaac last year in draft
You are crazy, You don’t trade a 21 year old who just posted 16ppg 6rpg 4apg with legit defense, 6”10 and can play PG for a prospect unless its an irving, rose, etc type prospect.


the guy who was force-fed to be the #1 guy with all his iso moves? and average defense?

sure i like BI but i am not pretending him to Irving or KD in the making


I'm not against trading Ingram.. for the right deal.
But I'm not sure Isaac or anyone at #6 will be better than BI.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:28 am    Post subject:

epak wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
watchME wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
2019 wrote:
Bamba >>>> Doncic when it's all said and done

Doncic will be a Draymond type of player offensively (with more skill and flair)... 3rd option but makes everything else go. Maybe a 20/8/8 at best. In many ways, he's similar to Lonzo in that sense except he's a forward and far more half court oriented.


i would like to see if we can get #6 and Jonathan Isaac from the Magic for Ingram/zubac

I just think Bamba is going to be really good and i like Isaac last year in draft
You are crazy, You don’t trade a 21 year old who just posted 16ppg 6rpg 4apg with legit defense, 6”10 and can play PG for a prospect unless its an irving, rose, etc type prospect.


the guy who was force-fed to be the #1 guy with all his iso moves? and average defense?

sure i like BI but i am not pretending him to Irving or KD in the making


I'm not against trading Ingram.. for the right deal.
But I'm not sure Isaac or anyone at #6 will be better than BI.


I didnt say OR. I said AND

Isaac and #6 for Ingram
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:34 am    Post subject:

Jesusdelonla wrote:
epak wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
watchME wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
2019 wrote:
Bamba >>>> Doncic when it's all said and done

Doncic will be a Draymond type of player offensively (with more skill and flair)... 3rd option but makes everything else go. Maybe a 20/8/8 at best. In many ways, he's similar to Lonzo in that sense except he's a forward and far more half court oriented.


i would like to see if we can get #6 and Jonathan Isaac from the Magic for Ingram/zubac

I just think Bamba is going to be really good and i like Isaac last year in draft
You are crazy, You don’t trade a 21 year old who just posted 16ppg 6rpg 4apg with legit defense, 6”10 and can play PG for a prospect unless its an irving, rose, etc type prospect.


the guy who was force-fed to be the #1 guy with all his iso moves? and average defense?

sure i like BI but i am not pretending him to Irving or KD in the making


I'm not against trading Ingram.. for the right deal.
But I'm not sure Isaac or anyone at #6 will be better than BI.


I didnt say OR. I said AND

Isaac and #6 for Ingram


Yea I read you right.
I'm thinking BI will be better than either of those guys.
And their combined value isn't really high enough to drop BI yet... imo.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:04 am    Post subject:

Jesusdelonla wrote:
epak wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
watchME wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
2019 wrote:
Bamba >>>> Doncic when it's all said and done

Doncic will be a Draymond type of player offensively (with more skill and flair)... 3rd option but makes everything else go. Maybe a 20/8/8 at best. In many ways, he's similar to Lonzo in that sense except he's a forward and far more half court oriented.


i would like to see if we can get #6 and Jonathan Isaac from the Magic for Ingram/zubac

I just think Bamba is going to be really good and i like Isaac last year in draft
You are crazy, You don’t trade a 21 year old who just posted 16ppg 6rpg 4apg with legit defense, 6”10 and can play PG for a prospect unless its an irving, rose, etc type prospect.


the guy who was force-fed to be the #1 guy with all his iso moves? and average defense?

sure i like BI but i am not pretending him to Irving or KD in the making


I'm not against trading Ingram.. for the right deal.
But I'm not sure Isaac or anyone at #6 will be better than BI.


I didnt say OR. I said AND

Isaac and #6 for Ingram

Trae Young or Wendell Carter and Jonathan Isaac would be a very interesting return for BI. Orlando might actually do it with Hammond's love for the wingspans.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:02 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
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Mike@LG wrote:
KAT played like an unhappy player with his coach last year.

The year before, he was putting up legit defensive numbers.


I honestly think he is a bit overrated.

Talented, but questionable motor.


I'd have a questionable motor too if my coach burned me out.


I am not a fan of Thibs or his coaching style, other than (at least when he was in Chicago) the emphasis on defense.

But his screaming and overuse of the players is a tired cliche and certainly not the future of the league.

That said, KAT has issues of his own (and yes he is a talent) that have nothing to do with Thibs in my opinion. This guy needs to play tougher and hungrier.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:30 pm    Post subject:

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Mike@LG wrote:
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Mike@LG wrote:
KAT played like an unhappy player with his coach last year.

The year before, he was putting up legit defensive numbers.


I honestly think he is a bit overrated.

Talented, but questionable motor.


I'd have a questionable motor too if my coach burned me out.


I am not a fan of Thibs or his coaching style, other than (at least when he was in Chicago) the emphasis on defense.

But his screaming and overuse of the players is a tired cliche and certainly not the future of the league.

That said, KAT has issues of his own (and yes he is a talent) that have nothing to do with Thibs in my opinion. This guy needs to play tougher and hungrier.


Some guys mature later. As long as the talent doesn't deteriorate.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:35 pm    Post subject:

So Luka's in the bag? Along wit Bron and PG13? What a beautiful summer!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:44 pm    Post subject:

I'm glad Magic/Pelinka aren't as anxious to trade Ingram as Lakersground is

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:45 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
epak wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
watchME wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
2019 wrote:
Bamba >>>> Doncic when it's all said and done

Doncic will be a Draymond type of player offensively (with more skill and flair)... 3rd option but makes everything else go. Maybe a 20/8/8 at best. In many ways, he's similar to Lonzo in that sense except he's a forward and far more half court oriented.


i would like to see if we can get #6 and Jonathan Isaac from the Magic for Ingram/zubac

I just think Bamba is going to be really good and i like Isaac last year in draft
You are crazy, You don’t trade a 21 year old who just posted 16ppg 6rpg 4apg with legit defense, 6”10 and can play PG for a prospect unless its an irving, rose, etc type prospect.


the guy who was force-fed to be the #1 guy with all his iso moves? and average defense?

sure i like BI but i am not pretending him to Irving or KD in the making


I'm not against trading Ingram.. for the right deal.
But I'm not sure Isaac or anyone at #6 will be better than BI.


I didnt say OR. I said AND

Isaac and #6 for Ingram


Yea I read you right.
I'm thinking BI will be better than either of those guys.
And their combined value isn't really high enough to drop BI yet... imo.


It's not, and the Lakers aren't foolish enough to do it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:45 am    Post subject:

FWIW, Vlade and Vivek are in Spain to watch Doncic, so, he might not be available for Lakers' dreams.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:55 am    Post subject:

2019 wrote:
Bamba >>>> Doncic when it's all said and done

Doncic will be a Draymond type of player offensively (with more skill and flair)... 3rd option but makes everything else go. Maybe a 20/8/8 at best. In many ways, he's similar to Lonzo in that sense except he's a forward and far more half court oriented.


Who has the better shot? How is Doncic's athleticism and rebounding?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:33 am    Post subject:

I'm ready for the Trae Young hype to die down. He's not what people make him out to be.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:35 am    Post subject:

manlisten wrote:
I'm ready for the Trae Young hype to die down. He's not what people make him out to be.

What do people make him out to be? What do you see him as?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:42 am    Post subject:

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I'm glad Magic/Pelinka aren't as anxious to trade Ingram as Lakersground is

smh



Yeah, I'm with you there. I guess there "could be" circumstances that
may make it necessary but long shots at best.

With all the noise around the Lakers, we could end up in an interesting
position or even back to where we are...
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:45 am    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
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KAT played like an unhappy player with his coach last year.

The year before, he was putting up legit defensive numbers.


Wondering if its a case of, if the dog doesnt get to eat, he wont guard the house.


I don't think so. KAT got his usual touches I think.

More like, excessive practices, beating up the body unnecessarily, etc.

It's strange really, strength and conditioning between the 80s to now. 80s seemed FAR less injury prone, because a lot of guys were basically, a lot lighter. They were more in soccer-shape.

Now, guys are huge, add some vert, add some quickness, get huge real fast, and yet the ACL injuries just ramp up so quickly. Knee injuries. Weird stuff.


I'm not sure how accurate this is. There really aren't any Shaqs, Malones, Robinsons or Ben Wallaces in today's game. The guys getting hurt are all slight of build, Lavine, Kyrie, Kristaps. Every center is a string bean. Even guys like LeBron and Blake aren't as yoked as they're made out to be. Freak accidents to guys like Hayward, Kawhi, Love etc. I think this rash of injuries is largely incidental. Thibs for sure has blood on his hands tho.
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I'm ready for the Trae Young hype to die down. He's not what people make him out to be.

What do people make him out to be? What do you see him as?


There was a time where I kept seeing his name thrown around for the #1 pick. People act like he's the next Steph or even just an elite shooter and playmaker. But you can't talk about his shooting and playmaking without bringing up his shot selection, inefficiency and turnovers yet that's what people always ignore. It's just annoying to me . When you watch his highlights he looks fantastic. But you have to see him in full games to really digest the type of player he is.
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