Better franchise centerpiece - Simmons or Embiid?

 
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Who would you rather build a team around?
Embiid
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Simmons
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:24 pm    Post subject: Better franchise centerpiece - Simmons or Embiid?

I was curious to learn who the LG community would rather build a franchise around if you could only choose one of the Sixers two main young prospects, Simmons or Embiid? This is assuming both players remain healthy over their careers, participating in an average of 75+ regular season games for the next 12-15 seasons.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:30 pm    Post subject:

I chose Embiid. Bigs with that kind of size and skill are extremely rare. Also, I don’t know if Simmons will ever learn to shoot.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:32 pm    Post subject:

Neither are mvp candidates, they’re just eastern conference stars. I’d rather build a team around Anthony Davis.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:58 pm    Post subject:

Embiid is a star. He's only played 94 games in two years. Still, he's one of the three finalists for DPoY and he'll probably come in top 10 voting in MVP, and likely would have made the top 5-7 if he hadn't missed 20 games.

The only concern about him is health, though he needs to work on his passing and turnovers.

Simmons is very good, and came close to making the all-star team as a rookie. The issue with him is he can't make a shot more than 9 feet out.

Simmons has more potential to correct his issue; I don't think Embiid's health will ever stop worrying people. But if I had to pick one, I'd go with Embiid because he's a special player.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:26 pm    Post subject:

Simmons.

Chose based on archetype. I mean, down the line, if Ben adds 10 or 20lbs in a typical NBA career like most do, he could even replace Embiid and the 76ers could have a different *better* point guard running the team.

That's how much talent he has.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:13 pm    Post subject:

Embiid. He's like a modern day Hakeem, and he has some guard skills, which means he can play in today's NBA.

I don't know if Simmons will ever be a legit scoring threat where he's easily averaging 20+ points. I'm not even sure how much hunger he has to score huge points.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:11 am    Post subject:

I prefer Embiid’s game. Both are special talents tho.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:17 pm    Post subject:

What Simmons does is far more valuable in today's game. Not a knock on Embiid, whose defense and offense are both very much positive, but Simmons is a game controller in a far more unique skill to size ratio.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:04 pm    Post subject:

Embiid so far. If Simmons learns how to shoot, it may change the conversation.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:56 pm    Post subject:

Simmons.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:41 pm    Post subject:

The results are fascinating so far.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:01 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:27 am    Post subject:

Can't think of a single player who avoided taking any shots beyond 15 feet ever becoming an able or even decent shooter. For as bad a reputation as Kidd had as a shooter, he shot 3 threes a game as a rookie in the two-ball era.

All the current bigs who extended their range to the arc were all good mid-range shooters to begin with (Gasol bros, Lopez, Speights). Ben Simmons can't even figure what hand to shoot with. Though only about to turn 22, how many star players (or even key role players) became jumpshooting threats after passing up virtually every jumper their rookie year from any distance? (Manute Bol's three ball was more a novelty than a weapon)

So, Embiid.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:52 am    Post subject:

Embiid can't guard the perimeter, and Simmons can't shoot or even score really.. so neither
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:35 am    Post subject:

Assuming health for Embiid...isn't that kind of a huge assumption?

A healthy Embiid I'd take over Simmons
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:26 am    Post subject:

Laker_Dynasty_01 wrote:
Can't think of a single player who avoided taking any shots beyond 15 feet ever becoming an able or even decent shooter. For as bad a reputation as Kidd had as a shooter, he shot 3 threes a game as a rookie in the two-ball era.


Only 4% of Simmons shots were beyond 16 feet.

The fact that he can't hit free throws either is a bad sign.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:18 am    Post subject:

Simmons has pulled slightly ahead!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:30 am    Post subject:

I went with Simmons. Only because I am not sure whether or not Embiid will hold up with injuries. I wish him the best, but big men with a history of injuries... If just considering talent, I'd go with Embiid.
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