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| Mistake to not change Lonzo's shot over summer? |
| Yes it is a mistake, the sooner they revamp his shot the better. |
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Hellspawn
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 Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:35 pm Post subject: Mistake to not change Lonzo's shot over summer? |
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| Wanted to hear opinions on this. I was disappointed when I heard they would not be changing his shot. But I think it was Luke or Magic that said that he was only missing when he was rushing and his feet weren't set (which I cannot recall, but assume is an accurate statement)... so not sure how I feel about it anymore. |
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PHILosophize
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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Are they not changing it AT ALL or just not overhauling it completely? The former would be a big mistake but the latter I can understand.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't have any inside info, but from what I gathered they were not changing the mechanics of his shot. I think probably just making sure he took better shots, probably at his best spots (if he has any...), making sure his feet are set, passing or driving instead of attempting a rushed shot, and just putting in reps. |
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deal
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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Big mistake IF he did not change his shot.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:02 pm Post subject: Re: Mistake to not change Lonzo's shot over summer? |
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| Hellspawn wrote: | | Wanted to hear opinions on this. I was disappointed when I heard they would not be changing his shot. But I think it was Luke or Magic that said that he was only missing when he was rushing and his feet weren't set (which I cannot recall, but assume is an accurate statement)... so not sure how I feel about it anymore. |
it's only a mistake if you truly believe thats the only reason he bricked so often.
I still stand by my original assessment, his shot is ugly. BUT it went in before, so why isnt it going in now? Thats a Mental issue. not a mechanics issue. guys are not all over him defensively he's wide open and still airballing and bricking left and right. ft's to 3's. brick...brick. that was not the case. I bet you if i pull up high school tape of rondo. he wasnt hitting 3's then, if I find college tape of rondo, he wasnt hitting nba ranged 3's then either. same for jkidd. but zo is was different, he was hitting and now he isnt. its a mind thing that needs to be resolved more so than a mechanics thing. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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It was a mistake not to start him with a shooting coach back in January, when it was 100% clear his shot was broken and wouldn't work in the NBA
Look at it this way - nothing that they did wrt changing his shot would have made him any worse.
they've essentially wasted 6 months already.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| it's almost a 2 handed shot without any consistency. He can get hot but can start clanking the side of the board any time. Lavar really failed him by not teaching him how to shoot properly. |
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Once again I’ll say that Lonzo can shoot. From November 11th to March 5th (29 games) he shot 38%. Last year as a freshman at UCLA he shot 41% from 3 over 36 games. He started his rookie year shooting terrible which happens and he hit the rookie wall which also happens. He needs to get stronger but his shot was either mental in the beginning of the year or physical at the end.
I fully expect him to shoot get to start the season and I look forward to just having to argue about him not playing 70+ games next year. |
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Underhanded FT.
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| scooterp10 wrote: | Once again I’ll say that Lonzo can shoot. From November 11th to March 5th (29 games) he shot 38%. Last year as a freshman at UCLA he shot 41% from 3 over 36 games. He started his rookie year shooting terrible which happens and he hit the rookie wall which also happens. He needs to get stronger but his shot was either mental in the beginning of the year or physical at the end.
I fully expect him to shoot get to start the season and I look forward to just having to argue about him not playing 70+ games next year. |
is that you skip? |
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| P.K. wrote: | It was a mistake not to start him with a shooting coach back in January, when it was 100% clear his shot was broken and wouldn't work in the NBA
Look at it this way - nothing that they did wrt changing his shot would have made him any worse.
they've essentially wasted 6 months already. |
Agreed.
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Can you change your shooting stroke and be good at it within a year or two? If it was that easy, a lot more people could make the NBA.
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| lakersfever714 wrote: | | Can you change your shooting stroke and be good at it within a year or two? If it was that easy, a lot more people could make the NBA. |
Didn't Brandon change is shot ? Seems like it was so low his rookie year. |
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| AllorNothing wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | | Can you change your shooting stroke and be good at it within a year or two? If it was that easy, a lot more people could make the NBA. |
Didn't Brandon change is shot ? Seems like it was so low his rookie year. |
He made adjustments like they all do but he didn’t completely change his shot just like lonzo isn’t to late in the game for that he been shooting this way his whole life and has had success up and until his nba rookie year .. it’s never been the lakers way to completely make player change his shot . Nobody wants to end up with fultz situation where player shot becomes completely broken |
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I'm torn. I'd give it one more season.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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I think they're going to do small tweaks to his shot over the next few years until its better.
If LBJ can change his shot at 33 I could easily see Lonzo change his shot for the better, but its small steps not giant leaps. |
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Magic's already said his opinion on Lonzo's jumper and why and what they aren't messing with...
sigh  Exit Interviews weren't THAT long ago.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| scooterp10 wrote: | Once again I’ll say that Lonzo can shoot. From November 11th to March 5th (29 games) he shot 38%. Last year as a freshman at UCLA he shot 41% from 3 over 36 games. He started his rookie year shooting terrible which happens and he hit the rookie wall which also happens. He needs to get stronger but his shot was either mental in the beginning of the year or physical at the end.
I fully expect him to shoot get to start the season and I look forward to just having to argue about him not playing 70+ games next year. |
The voice of reason ITT. People overreact to his overall numbers because of his horrible start. People labeled him a horrible 3-pt shooter back in November/December and once people throw a label on it tends to stick.
What’s the deal with his free throws though? |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | Magic's already said his opinion on Lonzo's jumper and why and what they aren't messing with...
sigh Exit Interviews weren't THAT long ago. |
Was he saying how he truly felt or was he just trying to deny the media from getting another story about potential rifts, though? |
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| AllorNothing wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | | Can you change your shooting stroke and be good at it within a year or two? If it was that easy, a lot more people could make the NBA. |
Didn't Brandon change is shot ? Seems like it was so low his rookie year. |
More of a tune up than a "change" or overhaul like Lonzo needs. Plenty of great shooters are willing to make some tweaks to their shot to increase efficiency. Dirk and Ingram come to mind, as well as Durant. Very telling that Lonzo thinks he just needs to get more confident and "perfect" his crank shot. Maybe he just doesn't like getting advice from others. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I’m more concerned about his mental issues because they held him back so much early in the season. How would he react in big playoff moments? |
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| c) we are trading his ass anyways??? |
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I think he's getting traded anyways.
Magic with all his bs about ball being the future..... |
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| deal wrote: | | P.K. wrote: | It was a mistake not to start him with a shooting coach back in January, when it was 100% clear his shot was broken and wouldn't work in the NBA
Look at it this way - nothing that they did wrt changing his shot would have made him any worse.
they've essentially wasted 6 months already. |
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we wasted a whole year.
the shot works when he's in a gym with a rhythm getting fed balls.
in the NBA with all the variables in each arena in each city.. then you add all the variables and moving parts of his shot.. its plain to see that its broke.
He cannot shoot it as a pull up driving right. He has to shoot a floater. He's limited his own potential.
fix the shot.. be a HOFer. leave it and be Kevin Martin. |
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