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GoldenThroat Moderator
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:33 am Post subject: |
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Guys, can you please keep the IT stuff in more appropriate threads? |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Sentient Meat wrote: | Fair enough... I have no problem with those who use the too expensive argument... I only have one with those who use the not good argument.
As I said, I think we'll have Bron so IT will be a footnote in our past.
But if we don't... you'll probably see me on here advocating for him.
I just hope he's not on one of our rivals next season. As we will actually have rivals again by then. |
It's not just too expensive. It's the price for what you get. A turning 30 point guard who has serious hip issues, wants to start (but won't), has had recent history of creating locker room drama, is a severe liability defensively. and is one of the shortest players in the league.
I know you're tired of hearing people say no to IT, but you also haven't said what is the maximum price and contract length you'd be willing to give him and that you believe he would be willing to take?
Maybe we'd agree on that, whatever it is. |
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LandsbergerRules Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:32 am Post subject: |
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JerryMagicKobe wrote: | Lonzo by a wide margin.
I like Ingram, but if you don’t see Zo’s superiority yet, you soon will.
Transcendent. |
Was wondering what your definition of a transcendent player is. I don't really see Zo possessing the sheer talent or the mental makeup to be a transcendent player. _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
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1hu2ren3dui4 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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Agh. It’s like giving up one of my children. |
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VicXLakers Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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like I said...I love these Rosetta Stone threads...especially when the mods are out trolling |
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Sentient Meat Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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This reminds me of a hipster making fun of someone who prefers a filet mignon meal over nouvelle cuisine.
You Philistines cannot possibly begin to understand the nuances of our palettes...
Meanwhile they remain hungry as f*ck while the steak eater goes home satisfied. |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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Sentient Meat wrote: | This reminds me of a hipster making fun of someone who prefers a filet mignon meal over nouvelle cuisine.
You Philistines cannot possibly begin to understand the nuances of our palettes...
Meanwhile they remain hungry as f*ck while the steak eater goes home satisfied. |
The filet eater are Lonzo voters right? |
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Sentient Meat Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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epak wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | This reminds me of a hipster making fun of someone who prefers a filet mignon meal over nouvelle cuisine.
You Philistines cannot possibly begin to understand the nuances of our palettes...
Meanwhile they remain hungry as f*ck while the steak eater goes home satisfied. |
The filet eater are Lonzo voters right? |
Who leaves you less hungry at the end of each game? |
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defense Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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Sentient Meat wrote: | epak wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | This reminds me of a hipster making fun of someone who prefers a filet mignon meal over nouvelle cuisine.
You Philistines cannot possibly begin to understand the nuances of our palettes...
Meanwhile they remain hungry as f*ck while the steak eater goes home satisfied. |
The filet eater are Lonzo voters right? |
Who leaves you less hungry at the end of each game? |
I like wings? |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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Sentient Meat wrote: | epak wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | This reminds me of a hipster making fun of someone who prefers a filet mignon meal over nouvelle cuisine.
You Philistines cannot possibly begin to understand the nuances of our palettes...
Meanwhile they remain hungry as f*ck while the steak eater goes home satisfied. |
The filet eater are Lonzo voters right? |
Who leaves you less hungry at the end of each game? |
Stat stuffed. Better rbd%, asst%, stl%, and blk% than BI.
Better decision maker. Better vision. Better defender at the position, and better team defender. Gets BI easy buckets.
I'm pretty full.
And this is coming from a guy who likes BI.
But if you're calling me a hipster, that's going to far!!!! |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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epak wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | epak wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | This reminds me of a hipster making fun of someone who prefers a filet mignon meal over nouvelle cuisine.
You Philistines cannot possibly begin to understand the nuances of our palettes...
Meanwhile they remain hungry as f*ck while the steak eater goes home satisfied. |
The filet eater are Lonzo voters right? |
Who leaves you less hungry at the end of each game? |
Stat stuffed. Better rbd%, asst%, stl%, and blk% than BI.
Better decision maker. Better vision. Better defender at the position, and better team defender. Gets BI easy buckets.
I'm pretty full.
And this is coming from a guy who likes BI.
But if you're calling me a hipster, that's going to far!!!! |
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Sentient Meat Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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epak wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | epak wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | This reminds me of a hipster making fun of someone who prefers a filet mignon meal over nouvelle cuisine.
You Philistines cannot possibly begin to understand the nuances of our palettes...
Meanwhile they remain hungry as f*ck while the steak eater goes home satisfied. |
The filet eater are Lonzo voters right? |
Who leaves you less hungry at the end of each game? |
Stat stuffed. Better rbd%, asst%, stl%, and blk% than BI.
Better decision maker. Better vision. Better defender at the position, and better team defender. Gets BI easy buckets.
I'm pretty full.
And this is coming from a guy who likes BI.
But if you're calling me a hipster, that's going to far!!!! |
Yet I never answered the question... lol
That's the beauty of filet vs. nouvelle cuisine... one you have to explain how you enjoyed yourself... the other you simply did.
But hey whatever wins us the most games next year... |
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watchME Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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Kuzma is better than Lonzo. I hope we keep ingram and Kuz |
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trablos Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Sentient Meat wrote: | epak wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | This reminds me of a hipster making fun of someone who prefers a filet mignon meal over nouvelle cuisine.
You Philistines cannot possibly begin to understand the nuances of our palettes...
Meanwhile they remain hungry as f*ck while the steak eater goes home satisfied. |
The filet eater are Lonzo voters right? |
Who leaves you less hungry at the end of each game? |
Found Pelinka's burner |
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defense Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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watchME wrote: | Kuzma is better than Lonzo. I hope we keep ingram and Kuz |
I strongly disagree |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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Sentient Meat wrote: | epak wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | epak wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | This reminds me of a hipster making fun of someone who prefers a filet mignon meal over nouvelle cuisine.
You Philistines cannot possibly begin to understand the nuances of our palettes...
Meanwhile they remain hungry as f*ck while the steak eater goes home satisfied. |
The filet eater are Lonzo voters right? |
Who leaves you less hungry at the end of each game? |
Stat stuffed. Better rbd%, asst%, stl%, and blk% than BI.
Better decision maker. Better vision. Better defender at the position, and better team defender. Gets BI easy buckets.
I'm pretty full.
And this is coming from a guy who likes BI.
But if you're calling me a hipster, that's going to far!!!! |
Yet I never answered the question... lol
That's the beauty of filet vs. nouvelle cuisine... one you have to explain how you enjoyed yourself... the other you simply did.
But hey whatever wins us the most games next year... |
So Lonzo has gone from a gangrenous foot to a bump of caviar topped with toasted creme fraiche in just a couple of days. Your metaphor game is on point! _________________ Under New Management |
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Endless3D Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Man I don't even know what the hell is going on in this thread anymore.
Why are we talking about food and Isiah Thomas? |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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I am really surprised by the huge margin. It does make some sense in that the louder and more influential voices seemingly went one way, while the overwhelming majority went the other. |
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mookielala Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | I am really surprised by the huge margin. It does make some sense in that the louder and more influential voices seemingly went one way, while the overwhelming majority went the other. |
I'm surprised too. Seems like the community has changed its opinions over the last year. |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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mookielala wrote: | adkindo wrote: | I am really surprised by the huge margin. It does make some sense in that the louder and more influential voices seemingly went one way, while the overwhelming majority went the other. |
I'm surprised too. Seems like the community has changed its opinions over the last year. |
Points baby!
Or is it steaks baby? |
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Sentient Meat Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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As long as you remember that fans are running the San Antonio Spurs this thread should be no trouble to follow.
When will they wake up and hire some experts? |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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mookielala wrote: | adkindo wrote: | I am really surprised by the huge margin. It does make some sense in that the louder and more influential voices seemingly went one way, while the overwhelming majority went the other. |
I'm surprised too. Seems like the community has changed its opinions over the last year. |
not sure....my comment was just based on it mostly feels like the board is higher on Ball than Ingram on a normal Tuesday.....and then I look through this thread, and a lot of influential users such as mods and long time active users do appear to prefer Ball....but still Ingram wins in a landslide. It's not a positive or negative, but it makes sense on why I or someone else may have wrongly assumed LG preferred Lonzo. The vote pretty much mirrors my thoughts on the players....as in I think Ingram is clearly the higher valued prospect, but I wrongly thought I was in the minority. |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | mookielala wrote: | adkindo wrote: | I am really surprised by the huge margin. It does make some sense in that the louder and more influential voices seemingly went one way, while the overwhelming majority went the other. |
I'm surprised too. Seems like the community has changed its opinions over the last year. |
not sure....my comment was just based on it mostly feels like the board is higher on Ball than Ingram on a normal Tuesday.....and then I look through this thread, and a lot of influential users such as mods and long time active users do appear to prefer Ball....but still Ingram wins in a landslide. It's not a positive or negative, but it makes sense on why I or someone else may have wrongly assumed LG preferred Lonzo. The vote pretty much mirrors my thoughts on the players....as in I think Ingram is clearly the higher valued prospect, but I wrongly thought I was in the minority. |
Not sure why you thought that?
Being in the Lonzo thread all year, one could tell it was a lot of hate.
The BI thread barely moves.
Im actually interested if it is BI love or Lonzo (including Lavar) hate that drives this vote. |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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epak wrote: | adkindo wrote: | mookielala wrote: | adkindo wrote: | I am really surprised by the huge margin. It does make some sense in that the louder and more influential voices seemingly went one way, while the overwhelming majority went the other. |
I'm surprised too. Seems like the community has changed its opinions over the last year. |
not sure....my comment was just based on it mostly feels like the board is higher on Ball than Ingram on a normal Tuesday.....and then I look through this thread, and a lot of influential users such as mods and long time active users do appear to prefer Ball....but still Ingram wins in a landslide. It's not a positive or negative, but it makes sense on why I or someone else may have wrongly assumed LG preferred Lonzo. The vote pretty much mirrors my thoughts on the players....as in I think Ingram is clearly the higher valued prospect, but I wrongly thought I was in the minority. |
Not sure why you thought that?
Being in the Lonzo thread all year, one could tell it was a lot of hate.
The BI thread barely moves.
Im actually interested if it is BI love or Lonzo (including Lavar) hate that drives this vote. |
like I said, I think it was because users like you, BVH, GT, and a handful of others are very active....been here a long time....more influential in the direction of the board than someone that may post 10 times one week, then be away for a month. Those "louder" voices (not sure how to describe, but its not meant to be a negative....I consider myself to have a somewhat "loud" voice on LG) made it appear one way to me.....but that does not effect 1 man/woman = 1 vote.
I rarely visit the Lonzo thread....and even less so the BI thread. There is always way too much passion (positive and negative) in the individual players threads. The only one I visited routinely was Clarkson's because I felt few others would defend him. |
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mookielala Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | epak wrote: | adkindo wrote: | mookielala wrote: | adkindo wrote: | I am really surprised by the huge margin. It does make some sense in that the louder and more influential voices seemingly went one way, while the overwhelming majority went the other. |
I'm surprised too. Seems like the community has changed its opinions over the last year. |
not sure....my comment was just based on it mostly feels like the board is higher on Ball than Ingram on a normal Tuesday.....and then I look through this thread, and a lot of influential users such as mods and long time active users do appear to prefer Ball....but still Ingram wins in a landslide. It's not a positive or negative, but it makes sense on why I or someone else may have wrongly assumed LG preferred Lonzo. The vote pretty much mirrors my thoughts on the players....as in I think Ingram is clearly the higher valued prospect, but I wrongly thought I was in the minority. |
Not sure why you thought that?
Being in the Lonzo thread all year, one could tell it was a lot of hate.
The BI thread barely moves.
Im actually interested if it is BI love or Lonzo (including Lavar) hate that drives this vote. |
like I said, I think it was because users like you, BVH, GT, and a handful of others are very active....been here a long time....more influential in the direction of the board than someone that may post 10 times one week, then be away for a month. Those "louder" voices (not sure how to describe, but its not meant to be a negative....I consider myself to have a somewhat "loud" voice on LG) made it appear one way to me.....but that does not effect 1 man/woman = 1 vote.
I rarely visit the Lonzo thread....and even less so the BI thread. There is always way too much passion (positive and negative) in the individual players threads. The only one I visited routinely was Clarkson's because I felt few others would defend him. |
I think it's a short memory too. At the beginning of the season, Lonzo was the second coming and BI was trash to a lot of posters. No telling what opinions will be halfway through the next season. It's like the game threads, people gravitate from hate and despair to joy and pride (or vice versa) in a matter of minutes. It's just a snapshot of mood. I hope they both kick ass next year. |
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