Media Speculates Ball to be LAL Trade Talks (or maybe Ingram)

Purp 32 · Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:55 am Post subject:

It's pretty clear from all the media stuff that Kuz is the one they'd trade last.

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^ Thanks for the link to Ding story.
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Mamba Mentality · Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:50 am Post subject:

^ Yeah thanks GT.

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deal · Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:00 am Post subject:

^ GT, thanks for the article. I'm getting back from travel and had not
read it.
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kikanga · Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:06 am Post subject:

Ingram is a below-average go-to player. And Kuzma is an above-average role player.
So depending on what system Magic imagines our super team running, I could see Kuzma being the preference.

But if Ingram ends up in SA with Pop. I could imagine Brandon being a thorn in the Lakers side for years to come. I could see SA turning Ingram into another Kawhi.
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You know what's funny, is if you listen to the Haynes audio, they ask him what it would cost the Lakers, and THE VERY FIRST THING THAT HE SAYS is:

"That's a good question. That's something I haven't been able to look in to."

And then goes on to give his opinion on what it would take. Then that gets framed and aggregated as it being what he's hearing around the league, when the very first thing that he says is that he hasn't been able to look into that.

Haynes didn't do anything wrong here, it's just that much of sports media is a racket that's going to frame things in the most sensational way every single time.

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I'm sure that's why the FO asked them to put a lid on the Social Media foolishness, because it's hurting their changes to trade him.

I say we ship is ARSS out on the first boat moving... There's no real upside there IMO, what's he going to be a Jason Kidd... I doubt it...

In High School, he was a scoring Combo guard and he'll have to transform into that in the NBA in order to be significant on a team and if we get any of those players; Kawhi, PG13 or LBJ, we totally won't need him. Keep Kuz and Keep Ingram, we can package Ball with Randle.

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I see Kuzma as a role player and nothing more, so it’s weird to see the Lakers having that opinion.

Cutheon · Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:50 am Post subject:

I’d like to keep as much of the youth as possible, especially Zo in that he’s a low-usage maximizet that plays good defense. He is the key to our offense. He speeds up our pace (more possessions), plays good defense (getting us more possessions and reducing the opponents), and barely needs the ball (meaning multiple stars that need to dribble, dribble, dribble can be accommodated).

Frankly I think all of the young guys are perfect fits around star talent - BI shoots high percentage catch and shoot, can attack any passing lane, can make plays on both ends; jules takes only a couple dribbles before he gets a bucket, can make plays on both ends, generate possessions and keep the pace high by boarding and either outletting or running. Kuz is kuz, obvious how he fits in; same with Hart.

I still think maybe we are in too much of a rush. I think adding PG this summer (think of him as a souped-up KCP) and Kawhi the next would be great. All the young guys still there. Probably the best route in my opinion. I have no fears - no fears - that all of our young guys will develop into their best versions (barring injury). I think they just work too hard and have a FO that cares too much.

IN any event, as to the topic . . . Zo, despite all of the above, does scare me: that effing knee. That is where he comparisons to DLO ring true and the only reason I trade him if I’m LA - if we believe that knee just won’t hold up.

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If the assumption is that the Lakers get Lebron, Kawhi and PG13 then I would think Lonzo is the player you keep of the Kuz/Ingram/Ball trio.

There are other factors in play obviously, but Lonzo fits best imo if we are assuming we landed all 3 stars.

It’s still going to hurt to give up Kuz and Ingram if that’s how it goes down. People who don’t watch the Lakers don’t get how good these guys will be moving forward.

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Why tade away a piece when you can sign the FA outright ?
That makes no sence.

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